Akrapovic w/o dishing out 6k? Anyway? Anyone?

[bmw13]

6k for an exhaust system!! Is there any other way? Anyone parting with theirs soon? I want that whistle and growl are their other options that are just as good in quality?

[RaptorKTM]

what exactly are you asking. If you want the Akrapovic you have to pay for it.

There are many exhaust options. While personally I have yet to see anything that compares in quality or sound hence my reason for getting it, there are many other alternatives.

I think in this case you just have to pay to play

[bmw13]

Originally Posted by RaptorKTM

what exactly are you asking. If you want the Akrapovic you have to pay for it.

There are many exhaust options. While personally I have yet to see anything that compares in quality or sound hence my reason for getting it, there are many other alternatives.

I think in this case you just have to pay to play

I am only a fan of "red" mode, which doesn't use the rest of the exhaust anyway if I am not mistaken... hence me thinking maybe the down pipe and valve and remap is all that is needed for me to be happy ... Correct me if I am wrong.

[RaptorKTM]

you are. Because without the wireless kit, you will always only have the "White Mode" there is a plate in the pipe that transfers the exhaust flow through the muffler to run on essentially quite all the time. You could tap that out however In my opinion it sounds different. Id would get the wireless kit. Also the downpipes make a HUGE difference in sound, and I mean HUGE.

[-cj-]

Group buy??

I've never heard this exhaust in person... Does it make you want to run out and drop $6k? I've watched videos on youtube, but those never do exhausts notes justice...

[SV Concepts II]

Everything about the Akrapovic systems warrants the high price tag. Even customers that have been skeptical about spending the money open the box and immediately go "Oh....I get it now". This usually becomes compounded once it's actually fitted to the vehicle and they get to feel and hear it.

[EINSER M]

Originally Posted by Ian///M

Very overpriced for what it is IMO. Can achieve same results with other manufacturers. That said, if I had a spare $6k, I may have bought an Akra.... Good weight saving and craftsmanship.... Not quite sold on the sound though

+10000

[Dan Parker]

Watching the video on youtube is free.
SuperTrapps aren't that expensive and I think JC Whitney's catalog has them now.
Must bend over for Titanium with gadgets...

[BJ1M]

i had full AK system which is 6K+1K DP=7K. I'd say if i am in NA, i won't go AK becuase i have more alternatives here. The building quality definately is good. very light. but for daily usage is still a bit louder when using the silence mode. It impacts lowend torque significantly even with the ECU map. I flet the lowend torque back a bit when i have the CIA. With FMIC and Stage2+FMIC map, the end torque went back a lot but still cannot compare the OEM feel. All above is the just feeling of my own. not Dyno tested. correct me if i am wrong, I head Ak is good for heavy duty tunning. It still fit when you have stage3.......

[-cj-]

Originally Posted by Ian///M

Very overpriced for what it is IMO. Can achieve same results with other manufacturers. That said, if I had a spare $6k, I may have bought an Akra.... Good weight saving and craftsmanship.... Not quite sold on the sound though

Since I don't have $6k burning a hole in my pocket either, what exhaust would you get instead? Are there other exhausts with a remote flap?

[1'M Blue]

Supersprint have good sound

[sparoz]

Put it this way, if you lay the stock and the akra system side by side and ask a lay person which is stock and which is aftermarket, they will tell you it is the akra.

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by 1'M Blue

Supersprint have good sound

+1. There are really a lot of options for the 1M. In terms of sound quality I liked the sound clips from the following more than the others:

(in no particular order)
Evolve Race ( also Supersprint)
Borla with Maddads or with N55
Lightweight Titanauspuffanlagen

In fact, I liked those above more than the Akra sound. In person, this impression may change of course, but I prefer a deeper tone to the stock sound rather than altering it much and making it too loud or raspy. My taste. And if I would choose to go really loud I think I would choose a full Meisterschaft over Akra. That is mean and loud.

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by ozinaldo

+1. There are really a lot of options for the 1M. In terms of sound quality I liked the sound clips from the following more than the others:

(in no particular order)
Evolve Race ( also Supersprint)
Borla with Maddads or with N55
Lightweight Titanauspuffanlagen
....

No Eisenmann? IMO, both Eisenmann and Supersprint offer excellent exhausts for the money, I wouldn't call it a bargain but compared to the Akra definately a good buy for the quality of craftsmanship.

Also, I think Supersprint/Eisenmann > Borla.

[///M1]

You don't have to burn through 6K to get the 'full' akra effect IMO. Buy the slip-on, get yourself mid pipes, any mid pipes (Maddad, N55, Berk), and you pretty much have an Evo system (similar if not the same sound, and ditto for weight savings), for a lot less. Don't opt for the tips (a 'delete' option available in many markets and in fact a few have done it States-side), so you are looking at a fraction of what you had envisioned.

Also, anecdotal evidence suggest many people have not paid full sticker on the system. There are ways to go about that, where there is a will, there is a way...

If you have your heart/eyes set on it, then go for it. Saving money, and ending up with something which still brings doubts to your mind is a sign you just spent it all in vain. That was my thinking, would rather spend on something I like, than spend less (but nevertheless 'spend') on something I am iffy about... Just my $0.02

[TunedM2C]

The Meisterschaft exhaust is basically straight pipes so it can be compared to the valve-opened Akra in that respect and it's cheaper. Plus, it seems most prefer the valve open all the time on the Akra too. I know I would.

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by Mr.Metak2you

No Eisenmann? IMO, both Eisenmann and Supersprint offer excellent exhausts for the money, I wouldn't call it a bargain but compared to the Akra definately a good buy for the quality of craftsmanship.

Also, I think Supersprint/Eisenmann > Borla.

Right, I knew there was something I was missing. Eisenmann should be in that pack too. Some reported problems and drone with Eisenmann but your video for instance was very good. Borla does not seem to provide the same level of quality/price ratio but sounds very strong especially when mated with Maddads or N55. I loved the video of superchargedman posted recently. I myself could go either way and lost a lot of time waiting for a good sound clip of the Vorsteiner and also a justification of their price to myself but now I am going with the Evolve (Supersprint) Race muffler + N55 mids and stock DPs. I got my mind set up on this combo

[Papethova]

Originally Posted by Tuned1M

The Meisterschaft exhaust is basically straight pipes so it can be compared to the valve-opened Akra in that respect and it's cheaper. Plus, it seems most prefer the valve open all the time on the Akra too. I know I would.

You can get an Akra that is titanium versus the stainless meister for similar pricing. Plus the Akra actually has a muffler.

The valve open Akra and the meister dont sound similar IMO

[EINSER M]

Originally Posted by Papethova

You can get an Akra that is titanium versus the stainless meister for similar pricing. Plus the Akra actually has a muffler.

The valve open Akra and the meister dont sound similar IMO

picking an exhaust for your car is just a pissing contest pure and simple
everyone will like theirs over their neighbor's

i like the sound and growl of the meisterschaft over the akra
powerbeast had it first on his car and that was just MEAN
he switched over to the akra subsequently and it just didnt sound the same, not even close to MEAN

for the record:

meisterschaft rear section titanium: 3,498$
meisterschaft rear section stainless steel: 1,998$

http://gthaus.com/ver3_ghprice.php?s...&Submit=Submit

i think it's been already noted several times on this forum that the akra slip on cannot be ordered WITHOUT the tips.... hence

akra rear section titanium w/ cf tips: 3,590$

http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...-system-e82-1m

[Papethova]

Originally Posted by EINSER M

picking an exhaust for your car is just a pissing contest pure and simple
everyone will like theirs over their neighbor's

i like the sound and growl of the meisterschaft over the akra
powerbeast had it first on his car and that was just MEAN
he switched over to the akra subsequently and it just didnt sound the same, not even close to MEAN

for the record:

meisterschaft rear section titanium: 3,498$
meisterschaft rear section stainless steel: 1,998$

http://gthaus.com/ver3_ghprice.php?s...&Submit=Submit

i think it's been already noted several times on this forum that the akra slip on cannot be ordered WITHOUT the tips.... hence

akra rear section titanium w/ cf tips: 3,590$

http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...-system-e82-1m

Being sponsored by Meister your opinion is skewed and motive behind this post questionable.

Ill agree that sound, tone, pitch, and volume are all subjective but those of us that actually compared systems and decided with our wallets arent biased beyond our personal taste.

Furthermore, I know for a fact 3 people have been able to secure an Akra system in titanium for less than the quoted price you have for the stainless Meister. A 4th was able to get the system without tips but I dont know at what cost... thats just the people I know of.

To me lower $$, superior material, arguably better craftsmanship, and having a muffler is a no brainer. More for my money. In fact I would have paid more for the Akra if I had to.

No argument though if you just want loud then Meister is a good option, but at that point any straight pipe will be just as loud. So why overpay? Even you say they are assclowns for charging $1200 for midpipes. Why are you going with someone else for midpipes?

Im not even going to get into the quality of the sound or the level of drone. Thats totally subjective... to each his own.

[EINSER M]

the 4th would be you u I believe??? you can tell everyone how much you got that akra without tips for everyone is dying to know

[HACKULO]

Originally Posted by Papethova

No argument though if you just want loud then Meister is a good option, but at that point any straight pipe will be just as loud. So why overpay? Even you say they are assclowns for charging $1200 for midpipes. Why are you going with someone else for midpipes?

i am not agree about this, the meisterchaft straight pipe exhaust not like the other custom straight pipe exhaust, even both straight, the meisterchaft still give the car deeper and louder sounds. correct me if i am wrong.

midpipe is a different story, most of midpipe in the market, the size about the same, just w/ or w/o cat and resonator, all the people want to spend less money on the similar product.

btw
to me, compare the akra and meisterchaft, i think meisterchaft is a better cost effective exhaust.