Charging of Iphone

Sterrico · 07-20-2010, 12:18 PM

Does the USB port in the center armrest charge the Iphone when it is plugged into it?

zamm3k · 07-20-2010, 12:26 PM

nope!

Sterrico · 07-20-2010, 12:31 PM

But the smartphone integration does? So pay 150 bucks to have it look pretty and charge or just use the cig lighter and have no connectivity. Do you think the new production runs in September will do this?

mdosu · 07-20-2010, 12:35 PM

prob won't charge ipods either huh?

1sikbmr · 07-20-2010, 12:39 PM

I don't know what you guys are talking about. My usb in the armrest charges my iphone. I have a 3g. Did it change for the new M3's? This is when I have it plugged in and are using it to play music... Not sure if that makes a difference unless OP is talking about just using the ipod/iphone wire to charge from car?

Sterrico · 07-20-2010, 12:39 PM

Unless I am mistaken I thought all apple products ran on 12V. Therefore if it doesn't work for one it won't work for others. Dam. So if it does charge in the September changes that means if you want a clean look you have to pay for the smartphone. That's just redonkulous.

1sikbmr - What year is your car?

AMOCHOSTO · 07-20-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mdosu

prob won't charge ipods either huh?

My '09 charges my I-Pod, I don't have an I-Phone.

audioMeth · 07-20-2010, 12:49 PM

charges as long as your ignition is switch to its on position.

Sterrico · 07-20-2010, 12:52 PM

Oh good then. Saved me 150 bucks!

BigHat · 07-20-2010, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterrico

Unless I am mistaken I thought all apple products ran on 12V. Therefore if it doesn't work for one it won't work for others. Dam. So if it does charge in the September changes that means if you want a clean look you have to pay for the smartphone. That's just redonkulous.

1sikbmr - What year is your car?

There are a number if changes to the connection over time. I use a latest generation iPod in my 2011 and it charges just fine. I do have adapters accumulated over time that will charge an iPod but not the iPhone, so it's more than just a voltage issue.

Why don't you just go the BMW website and see what devices the car is compatible with. Personally, I think the smartphone integration is the dumbest option in the inventory. Run the phone via BT and charge it with an ac adapter if the need ever arises. Doesn't get any cleaner than in your briefcase on the back seat.

Sterrico · 07-20-2010, 01:00 PM

I guess I'm trying to do three things. 1. Use my iphone through the bluetooth functionality. 2. charge my iphone when plugged into the USB port 3. Control my MP3 that I have on my iphone. So it sounds like all of this can be done with the new changes in Sept.

Though I guess I could just download all the MP3 onto the HD.

And I agree that SPI is just dumb. I'm just trying to figure out the best way to get what I want is all.

OMID INC · 07-20-2010, 01:19 PM

my 08 charges both ipod and iphone

mkoesel · 07-20-2010, 01:39 PM

My '08 charges my iPhone 3G using the BMW Y-cable (the first generation one). It doesn't charge very well though - its very slow.

///M Rakete · 07-20-2010, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterrico

I guess I'm trying to do three things. 1. Use my iphone through the bluetooth functionality. 2. charge my iphone when plugged into the USB port 3. Control my MP3 that I have on my iphone. So it sounds like all of this can be done with the new changes in Sept.

Though I guess I could just download all the MP3 onto the HD.

And I agree that SPI is just dumb. I'm just trying to figure out the best way to get what I want is all.

Why is SPI dumb? It's pricey because you still have to buy the snap-in adapter but there are no cables to fuss with and you get some RF performance improvement via the inductive antenna set up. It also positions the iPhone perfectly to run either the M Power Meter or Dynolicious apps.

hlmiii · 07-20-2010, 02:32 PM

"all apple products ran on 12V"
No. Most electronics run on ~5 volts. It's been a standard for years, allowing for the use of the same chips and components across most platforms - phones, motherboards, audio and video units, etc. It's why wall warts are so ubiquitous. The only significant variation is in current draw and/or capability.

FWIW - the basic USB spec is ~ 5v.

12v is the legacy for cars (actually around 12.5 - 14.5 v). For small electronics the "cigarette"/accessory outlet voltage is generally stepped down in the respective plug-in charger.

Sterrico · 07-20-2010, 03:41 PM

Ok so I stand corrected on the voltage. I never realized that the draw was only 5v. Interesting. Thanks for the info.

In terms of the SPI the reason I think it's dumb is exactly why you state. You have to pay another chunk of change for the adapter. I would just take it off the option list and put it in the accessories list. I'm just not a fan of being charged twice to get what I want.

I guess now the debate is for the Sept production cars that don't need the y cable anymore do you really need the SPI? I'll probably just end up getting it anyway. It's only 150 bucks.

hlmiii · 07-20-2010, 04:28 PM

No prob, Sterrico.

And your terminology - the "draw" is 5v - is correct. Within general limits the unit will suck up five volts regardless of whether the supplied voltage is somewhat lower or higher.

It doesn't address your Bluetooth request but this both charges an iPhone/iPod and provides direct access to the transport, while using Aux In (instead of the sometimes grim) FM transmitter process.
http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=5340

Good luck.

sheepboy · 07-20-2010, 05:01 PM

100% positive it does charges the iPhone. I have one and charge it on my way to work daily.

Doctor J · 07-20-2010, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterrico

I guess I'm trying to do three things. 1. Use my iphone through the bluetooth functionality. 2. charge my iphone when plugged into the USB port 3. Control my MP3 that I have on my iphone. So it sounds like all of this can be done with the new changes in Sept.

Though I guess I could just download all the MP3 onto the HD.

And I agree that SPI is just dumb. I'm just trying to figure out the best way to get what I want is all.

My 2010 does all those things with the y-adapter on my 3GS and my Ipod touch

sheepboy · 07-20-2010, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterrico

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Though I guess I could just download all the MP3 onto the HD.

I downloaded 8GB worth of my favorite songs to the HD so I do not need to hook up the iPhone all the time and can keep in my pocket with bluetooth. I only plug it in when it needs to be charged.

DadzM4 · 07-20-2010, 08:08 PM

Charges on my 09' and the Wife's 2011.

DevJ · 07-20-2010, 08:12 PM

It's a hit or miss..mine charged my iPhone 3GS 90% of the time. It has been charging 100% of the time since I've gotten my iPhone 4.

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Sterrico New VW CEO 73 Rep 280 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hyattsville, MD iTrader: (2)	I guess I'm trying to do three things. 1. Use my iphone through the bluetooth functionality. 2. charge my iphone when plugged into the USB port 3. Control my MP3 that I have on my iphone. So it sounds like all of this can be done with the new changes in Sept. Though I guess I could just download all the MP3 onto the HD. And I agree that SPI is just dumb. I'm just trying to figure out the best way to get what I want is all.
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hlmiii Lieutenant 86 Rep 541 Posts Drives: '11 1M '10 M5 '05 M3 '12 CRT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston iTrader: (1)	"all apple products ran on 12V" No. Most electronics run on ~5 volts. It's been a standard for years, allowing for the use of the same chips and components across most platforms - phones, motherboards, audio and video units, etc. It's why wall warts are so ubiquitous. The only significant variation is in current draw and/or capability. FWIW - the basic USB spec is ~ 5v. 12v is the legacy for cars (actually around 12.5 - 14.5 v). For small electronics the "cigarette"/accessory outlet voltage is generally stepped down in the respective plug-in charger.
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Sterrico New VW CEO 73 Rep 280 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hyattsville, MD iTrader: (2)	Ok so I stand corrected on the voltage. I never realized that the draw was only 5v. Interesting. Thanks for the info. In terms of the SPI the reason I think it's dumb is exactly why you state. You have to pay another chunk of change for the adapter. I would just take it off the option list and put it in the accessories list. I'm just not a fan of being charged twice to get what I want. I guess now the debate is for the Sept production cars that don't need the y cable anymore do you really need the SPI? I'll probably just end up getting it anyway. It's only 150 bucks.
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hlmiii Lieutenant 86 Rep 541 Posts Drives: '11 1M '10 M5 '05 M3 '12 CRT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston iTrader: (1)	No prob, Sterrico. And your terminology - the "draw" is 5v - is correct. Within general limits the unit will suck up five volts regardless of whether the supplied voltage is somewhat lower or higher. It doesn't address your Bluetooth request but this both charges an iPhone/iPod and provides direct access to the transport, while using Aux In (instead of the sometimes grim) FM transmitter process. http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=5340 Good luck.
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