Why have a key?

looking · 02-14-2008, 12:49 PM

I'm just wondering why BMW won't use a keyless system, like the IS and G35? I think it's probably one of the best convenience features to be invented. I have it in the G35 and when I first got it I thought it was gimmicky but, in the real word it's fantastic! why would BMW include a push start if you also have to put the key in???? just doesn't seem logical to me.

I know the 1ers is about the driving experience but, just something I wanted to point out and question.

atr_hugo · 02-14-2008, 12:50 PM

They do - it's called Comfort Access - and it'll cost you 500 smackers to order it. ; -)

Edit - oh wait, you're in Canada, make that a thousand smackers. ; -)

looking · 02-14-2008, 12:55 PM

typical BMW gouging! Still a pain in the butt to have a push start and key insert.

friscogypsee · 02-14-2008, 01:04 PM

I think the push button w/ comfort access is pretty slick, but hey, howabout "voice recognition start"? lets hope not. I heard a story that some guys wanted to steal a bmw so they cut off the owners finger so they could unlock the car with it since he had the fingerprint reading system. Ouch!!

SlickShift · 02-14-2008, 01:17 PM

I'm really not a big fan of the comfort access or key fobs in general. I would seriously pay BMW $500 for a good ol' insert-and-turn key.

Robert · 02-14-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by excel

typical BMW gouging! Still a pain in the butt to have a push start and key insert.

With CA you don't need to insert the key. As long as the key fob is in the car you can hit start to ignite the engine. I am not sure what else you want besides an automatic biometric scan for identification and a mind reader to stop and start the engine.

edge350 · 02-14-2008, 02:38 PM

Can you install a remote start with a comfort access? Has anyone out there tried that?

looking · 02-14-2008, 02:39 PM

^^^

no, I'm not complaining about the CA, I'm wondering why there isn't CA standard? I have the equivalent on the G35 and I think it works fantastic.

larryn · 02-14-2008, 02:45 PM

I personally don't want CA, even if they gave it away for free. There's gotta be others like me. That's probably why it's not standard equipment (oh, and they can make money on it, by offering it separately).

gatorfast · 02-14-2008, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by excel

^^^

no, I'm not complaining about the CA, I'm wondering why there isn't CA standard? I have the equivalent on the G35 and I think it works fantastic.

Its not standard because everything on BMW's are a la carte. On japanese cars most of the good stuff is standard.

looking · 02-14-2008, 02:54 PM

^^

Ya I understand why they don't make it standard, it's typical BMW to have everything an option, too bad really. For those that oppose CA, why don't you want it? and have you ever used it? For me it's one of the better convenience features to be introduced in a long time.

Year1of1 · 02-14-2008, 03:17 PM

IMO CA is a waste... are people really that lazy that they can't push a button?

Drawarms · 02-14-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by atr_hugo

They do - it's called Comfort Access - and it'll cost you 500 smackers to order it. ; -)

Edit - oh wait, you're in Canada, make that a thousand smackers. ; -)

HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA

looking · 02-14-2008, 03:21 PM

^^
have you ever used CA or the equivalent? I thought it was gimmicky until I got it. The reason why I wonder why there's a push button when you have to put in a key is because it really doesn't make sense to have both.

larryn · 02-14-2008, 05:35 PM

If I don't have to use the key, I'm the type that would lose the key or I'd leave it at my office. I'd get to the train station and be 40 miles from my key.

I do not use a keychain and the only key I carry is the fob from my e90.

looking · 02-14-2008, 05:46 PM

^^^

Good point. But have you considered that you could leave the key in your briefcase or whatever and just never take it out? but ya I see your point

larryn · 02-14-2008, 05:51 PM

I haven't forgotten it yet, because I know I need to physically use it. if I had CA, I think I would forget it though.. out of sight, out of mind.

looking · 02-14-2008, 06:12 PM

^^^

Ya I know what you mean. Surprisingly, that hasn't happened to me yet.

Evolved · 02-14-2008, 06:50 PM

I'm with larryn on this. All of his posts could very well have been mine as I feel the same way and I also don't use a keychain.

chessie1629 · 02-14-2008, 06:58 PM

I agree that I might lose the key fob with CA. My wife has a similar system but she puts the fob in her purse. I can't put the fob in my wallet because it's too big. That's why I'd like the fingerprint system or a small card for my wallet. Afterall it's only a microchip of some kind.

PrematureApex · 02-14-2008, 07:07 PM

Question:

I know if the fob dies, it has a key so you can manually unlock the car. I'd assume that's the same key you use to start the car in the event the battery is dead.

djmBMW · 02-22-2008, 07:14 PM

I usually leave my key in the cup holder of my MINI when not in the ignition. So with my 135 w/ ca it will be jump in and hit the button.

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looking Captain 36 Rep 602 Posts Drives: 135 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	Why have a key? I'm just wondering why BMW won't use a keyless system, like the IS and G35? I think it's probably one of the best convenience features to be invented. I have it in the G35 and when I first got it I thought it was gimmicky but, in the real word it's fantastic! why would BMW include a push start if you also have to put the key in???? just doesn't seem logical to me. I know the 1ers is about the driving experience but, just something I wanted to point out and question.
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atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	They do - it's called Comfort Access - and it'll cost you 500 smackers to order it. ; -) Edit - oh wait, you're in Canada, make that a thousand smackers. ; -)
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friscogypsee Second Lieutenant 14 Rep 248 Posts Drives: planning my getaway Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SF, CA iTrader: (0)	I think the push button w/ comfort access is pretty slick, but hey, howabout "voice recognition start"? lets hope not. I heard a story that some guys wanted to steal a bmw so they cut off the owners finger so they could unlock the car with it since he had the fingerprint reading system. Ouch!!
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looking Captain 36 Rep 602 Posts Drives: 135 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	^^^ no, I'm not complaining about the CA, I'm wondering why there isn't CA standard? I have the equivalent on the G35 and I think it works fantastic.
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larryn Lieutenant General 2148 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	I personally don't want CA, even if they gave it away for free. There's gotta be others like me. That's probably why it's not standard equipment (oh, and they can make money on it, by offering it separately).
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looking Captain 36 Rep 602 Posts Drives: 135 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	^^ Ya I understand why they don't make it standard, it's typical BMW to have everything an option, too bad really. For those that oppose CA, why don't you want it? and have you ever used it? For me it's one of the better convenience features to be introduced in a long time.
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Year1of1 Lieutenant 32 Rep 573 Posts Drives: 2020 X5 M50 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	IMO CA is a waste... are people really that lazy that they can't push a button? __________________ 2008 128 - retired 2010 X5 - retired 2013 535 - retired 2015 X1 - retired 2020 X5 M50i - On Order
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looking Captain 36 Rep 602 Posts Drives: 135 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	^^ have you ever used CA or the equivalent? I thought it was gimmicky until I got it. The reason why I wonder why there's a push button when you have to put in a key is because it really doesn't make sense to have both.
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larryn Lieutenant General 2148 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	If I don't have to use the key, I'm the type that would lose the key or I'd leave it at my office. I'd get to the train station and be 40 miles from my key. I do not use a keychain and the only key I carry is the fob from my e90.
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looking Captain 36 Rep 602 Posts Drives: 135 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	^^^ Good point. But have you considered that you could leave the key in your briefcase or whatever and just never take it out? but ya I see your point
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larryn Lieutenant General 2148 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	I haven't forgotten it yet, because I know I need to physically use it. if I had CA, I think I would forget it though.. out of sight, out of mind.
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looking Captain 36 Rep 602 Posts Drives: 135 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	^^^ Ya I know what you mean. Surprisingly, that hasn't happened to me yet.
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Evolved Bad Lieutenant 6 Rep 465 Posts Drives: Evo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	I'm with larryn on this. All of his posts could very well have been mine as I feel the same way and I also don't use a keychain.
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chessie1629 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 42 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jul 2007 iTrader: (0)	I agree that I might lose the key fob with CA. My wife has a similar system but she puts the fob in her purse. I can't put the fob in my wallet because it's too big. That's why I'd like the fingerprint system or a small card for my wallet. Afterall it's only a microchip of some kind.
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PrematureApex Colonel 840 Rep 2,402 Posts Drives: N55 X1, N54 135, s54 m3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	Question: I know if the fob dies, it has a key so you can manually unlock the car. I'd assume that's the same key you use to start the car in the event the battery is dead.
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djmBMW Private 2 Rep 55 Posts Drives: 135 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Litchfield County, CT iTrader: (0)	I usually leave my key in the cup holder of my MINI when not in the ignition. So with my 135 w/ ca it will be jump in and hit the button.
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