e90 Increasing in value?

[njdrive]

I was looking in the for sale section and saw e90s for sale listed for 30k plus. One had over 100k miles. The asking price sounded more inline with BAT or that BWM enthusiast dealership prices.

Then I said wait, are these cars increasing in value or are the owners increasing the sale prices or is there an emotional attachment tax being added? Maybe the seller will tell his wife; he tried to sell the car but, no one was buying so he now has to keep the m3.

Back to the topic; I saw an E90 with less them 60k mile list for 2k more than the other with 100k mile and this car sold within days. This tells me the seller priced the car according.

is the E90 Increasing in value or is this a case of inflated prices and emotional attachment tax (EAT)?

[Frozen]

Some of the ones in the for sale section have been sitting for awhile which tells me they are overpriced. Look at the red e90 AdamRanger just sold. It was priced right and it sold within a week.

[njdrive]

Originally Posted by e90m305

Some of the ones in the for sale section have been sitting for awhile which tells me they are overpriced. Look at the red e90 AdamRanger just sold. It was priced right and it sold within a week.

Agreed on AdmRanger. I saw that one. His listing and asking price made sense and in the end made dollars for him.

[Aktavate]

Originally Posted by njdrive

Then I said wait, are these cars increasing in value or are the owners increasing the sale prices or is there an emotional attachment tax being added?

The value of the car IS BASED on the sale price, its not either/or. If more people price their cars higher, they are worth more. Also not every seller is the same. Some are perfectly fine having a car for sale for a year or more. Other people are desperate for money and will underprice their items with all kinds of motivations in between. That said there is going to be a floor for these cars no matter what. Are they really intrinsically worth less than $20k even with high mileage?

[SAMM3Y]

You'll be finding 10k salvage e9x m3's with 100k on them in 2 years.. that'll settle the 100k clean title versions for $14-16k. BMW sold too many of them, it's inevitable. Just make sure you love yours and plan on keeping it forever. You'll never see a return on any e9x you're in for $30k+

[wfdeacon88]

Originally Posted by SAMM3Y

You'll be finding 10k salvage e9x m3's with 100k on them in 2 years.. that'll settle the 100k clean title versions for $14-16k. BMW sold too many of them, it's inevitable. Just make sure you love yours and plan on keeping it forever. You'll never see a return on any e9x you're in for $30k+

um, not many e90s were sold in comparison to the e92, champ.

[IanMan]

Originally Posted by wfdeacon88

um, not many e90s were sold in comparison to the e92, champ.

+50. When I was searching for an E90 2 years ago, all classified websites were flooded with E92's and E93's but not nearly as many E90's. The E90's always have commanded a premium over the E92's.

[SAMM3Y]

Originally Posted by wfdeacon88

um, not many e90s were sold in comparison to the e92, champ.

Well f80 m3's are cheaper than m4's rn In the preowned market and a clean 2 door e36 m3 commands a better price than a 4 door. Not predicting the future but trends are trends. Ever think the reason they stopped making the e90 m3 in 2011 is because the demand was short? People who drive the 4 door is out of necessity, they'd all rather be in a two door Carbon top...

[wfdeacon88]

Originally Posted by SAMM3Y

Well f80 m3's are cheaper than m4's rn In the preowned market and a clean 2 door e36 m3 commands a better price than a 4 door. Not predicting the future but trends are trends. Ever think the reason they stopped making the e90 m3 in 2011 is because the demand was short? People who drive the 4 door is out of necessity, they'd all rather be in a two door Carbon top...

I honestly don't care if the resale drops, and I personally like the look of the 90 better than the 92.

[SkysTheLimit]

Originally Posted by SAMM3Y

Well f80 m3's are cheaper than m4's rn In the preowned market and a clean 2 door e36 m3 commands a better price than a 4 door. Not predicting the future but trends are trends. Ever think the reason they stopped making the e90 m3 in 2011 is because the demand was short? People who drive the 4 door is out of necessity, they'd all rather be in a two door Carbon top...

This is just incorrect unfortunately...the E90 stopped production in 2011 because the chassis was discontinued for F30 SOP.

The reason they brought back the sedan in 2008 is due to demand after they realized there was a market for them after the E46 M3.

I have an E90 and I have no need for the 4 doors. I also own an E46 M3 and came from an E92 335i. I picked the E90 as you're not losing much compared to the E92, and the car is more interesting due to its rarity and last of its kind in the NA V8 manual RWD sedan breed.

[sibhusz06]

Not sure how you got this information, the f80 as well as e90 4 doors command 2-4k over their 2 door counterparts. I research both and always found the 4 doors higher in price..

Originally Posted by SAMM3Y

Well f80 m3's are cheaper than m4's rn In the preowned market and a clean 2 door e36 m3 commands a better price than a 4 door. Not predicting the future but trends are trends. Ever think the reason they stopped making the e90 m3 in 2011 is because the demand was short? People who drive the 4 door is out of necessity, they'd all rather be in a two door Carbon top...

[MJBO]

Originally Posted by SAMM3Y

Ever think the reason they stopped making the e90 m3 in 2011 is because the demand was short? People who drive the 4 door is out of necessity, they'd all rather be in a two door Carbon top...

So wrong...

I waited longer and paid more because I wanted an E90. I don’t have kids, don’t really need the extra doors or practically, but I wanted it because I think it looks better, and as others said it feels that bit more special.

Could have had my pick of E92s the day I started my search for less.

Again as above, the E90 chassis ended when the F30 arrived. The 4 series didn’t replace the E92 till 2014, hence it got another two years.

[Aktavate]

Originally Posted by MJBO

So wrong...

I waited longer and paid more because I wanted an E90. I don’t have kids, don’t really need the extra doors or practically, but I wanted it because I think it looks better, and as others said it feels that bit more special.

Could have had my pick of E92s the day I started my search for less.

Again as above, the E90 chassis ended when the F30 arrived. The 4 series didn’t replace the E92 till 2014, hence it got another two years.

People really think e90 drivers wish they had a coupe I'd also pick up a M3 over an M4 if I were looking at F8x and I'm a single guy with no kids.

Also someone above mentioned rarity. For NA, E92 is 61.5% and E90 is only 22.9% of total production, so yes there are far fewer sedans.

[spazzyfry123]

Originally Posted by SAMM3Y

Well f80 m3's are cheaper than m4's rn In the preowned market and a clean 2 door e36 m3 commands a better price than a 4 door. Not predicting the future but trends are trends. Ever think the reason they stopped making the e90 m3 in 2011 is because the demand was short? People who drive the 4 door is out of necessity, they'd all rather be in a two door Carbon top...

LOL

I don't think anyone had ever sat in the back seats of my E90.

[srmast1]

The e90 is fantastic for road trips with wife + baby + 12 yr old in relative comfort. I bought it so the drives to the bay area and LA would be fun for me and in comfort for them. It just depends what you need at this stage in your life. Now that we have an MDX, we don't take trips in the e90 any more but it was great when we did. It's so much fun on the grapevine and parts of hwy 152. It is a true canyon carver but I do not need a 4dr anymore . It took me am entire year to find a 6mt e90M. I'm thinking now however, a 2dr would be the way to go...I just depends on the needs of your life. I would love a 2010 6mt m6

[CSBM5]

The E90 was the last n/a high revving S engined sedan, HPS, etc, to ever be produced by BMW. There were only just over 5000 imported to North America versus many times that for the E92/3. Low mileage, very well kept versions with excellent provenance are done depreciating in the past couple of years.

As time goes forward, the E90 M3 will continue to command an expanding premium over the E92 if nothing else due to the huge discrepancy in supply.

In a way, it feels a bit like what happened with the E39 M5. I owned one for over 14 years and about 10 years ago the whole subject of appreciation was a hot topic on the M5board. Many had very strong beliefs such as: "a four door sedan never will appreciate", "there were too many of them made" (btw, just under 10,000 E39 M5s were imported to NA)....and a whole host of vehement arguments of how wrong anyone would be to ever imagine that the car would actually appreciate.

Fast forward 10 years, and I sold mine for just over $35k which is almost twice what it would have sold for in 2008-2009 timeframe. I actually almost bought a second one back then when a guy in TN was selling an Alpine White 2002 M5 with 65k miles and the price was down to $18k.

A 4xx mile 2002 M5 sold this year in a no reserve auction for $176,000. The car had previously sold with about 100 miles on it in 2010 for $44k. Obviously the very high end of the market, but examples like this lead and uplift the entire market...enough so that Hagerty has now started a price tracking guide for the E39 M5...something many said would never be possible.

I'm guessing something similar will occur with the E90 M3, especially since the quantity imported is about 1/2 that of the 2nd to the last n/a S engined sedan. Time will tell of course. The more doubters about that possibility, the better the likelihood it will come true...as always.

[amrazM]

The drivers that seek more in a car than torque and tire spin are realizing the E9X(in general) is the answer.

Not sure if any of you guys got F80’s when they came out but a lot of guys bought them and then realized it was horrendous, nothing like an M car and the E9x chassis is still shining as the crown jewel of late model M.

Nice late production E90’s are becoming hard to find, it took my 6 months to find my 09/11 sedan and quite frankly I dont cars if it goes up in value because I won’t ever sell it but I’ve had offers to sell the car at a couple cars and coffee already.

[amrazM]

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[EnVe46]

Speaking as an E90 with it for sale, there's an emotional attachment for sure. However, every car will have a buyer that sees the value in the price post they buy it at. I'm asking a premium for my car due to the level of cleanliness and maintenance history combined with the rarity of the color combination. It may take awhile to sell it and that's perfectly ok. But I know there will be buyer that sees things like myself and will see the value in the car, not necessarily cause it's an E90, but everything else along with that

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by EnVe46

Speaking as an E90 with it for sale, there's an emotional attachment for sure. However, every car will have a buyer that sees the value in the price post they buy it at. I'm asking a premium for my car due to the level of cleanliness and maintenance history combined with the rarity of the color combination. It may take awhile to sell it and that's perfectly ok. But I know there will be buyer that sees things like myself and will see the value in the car, not necessarily cause it's an E90, but everything else along with that

Don't forget about BaT. I had an excellent experience there selling my E39 M5, and after working with two "seriously interested" potential buyers for two months prior to putting it up for auction, I was so happy to have the 7-day auction environment. The last potential buyer strung me along before giving me his "final opinion" that my car wasn't worth more than $26-27k (versus my $33k asking price); I said so long, and two weeks later sold it for $8k more than his opinion on BaT ($34k to me, buyer paid $35,700).

If you don't go the BaT route, you'll deal with all sorts of tire-kickers, low ballers, etc, who have no real interest in buying your car and who will quote KBB or some other worthless source to proclaim you an idiot for whatever asking price you state. All of that is a complete waste of time an energy from my standpoint.

Of course we're entering a poor time of the year to sell a car at the moment coupled with a huge downturn in used car sales. The odds that a high bidder who wins a BaT auction is paying cash is also hugely higher than the average used car buyer. On my auction, my winner and I finalized the wording of the bill of sale that night after the auction, cash was wired to my bank overnight, and he arranged to have a transport pick up the car.

[admranger]

My E90M3 was for a family of 2 plus 2 small dogs (used a seat protector). Dogs were the only ones to sit in the back seat.

I may have been able to get more selling on BAT, but I'm happy with the sale I made and had 3-4 others as backups if it fell through.

I fully believe I'll regret the sale in 10-20 years when minty fresh E90M3's will be selling for stupid E30M3 prices.

My strategy for selling was simple: Price it below market and close with minimal hassles. I had zero hassles with my buyer and multiple backup buyers with cash in hand (literally -- one sent me a picture of the cash with my name on it!).

[xcusem3]

I would have bought an e90 but the lack of cool individual colours was a shame.. 4 years ago I bought a super low mile end of production run 07/13 - Santorini blue e92 and haven't looked back.

Not 3 weeks ago a guy offered me $55k CAD (40k usd) for her and I had to pass....