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05-28-2015, 06:25 PM | #1 |
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Is it possible?
So I know there is a lot of so called hype about the rod bearing issue. Small numbers of failures (well in the since of percent on here). So my thing is, I just read a post on another forum about a "Friday build" he struck a valid point with that. On the weekend approaching people tend to half ass things and hurry up to get the job done. Is it possible that's the cause of some of these. I mean we have ///m e90s now breaking the 100k mark without a problem and some that fail early in life. I know the problem is a tight tolerance but is it possible that some are just thrown together half assed to get out of work to drink beer on the weekend? Just a thought, that's all
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05-28-2015, 06:31 PM | #2 |
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Unlikely since everything is automated nowadays.
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My two sense is that some failures are luck of the draw and others are due to stress of hard driving or mods like super chargers. Actual percentage is very very small.
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05-28-2015, 07:42 PM | #7 |
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Yes I agree completely, when people push cars harder and add stress to the engine there isn't much else to expect. When you look at stock cars this could be a very logical explanation to the failures and or terrible maintence practices on the owner but that's not always the case either. Just a different way to look at the whole issue that's all
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At Jeep everyday of the week is a "Friday build" day lol. These guys are partying like rock stars. |
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05-29-2015, 01:30 AM | #13 |
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We call this event "Monday built". Due to the hangover from weekend part I would have thought...
However I don't think much if anything at all is hand built. 65.000 is not a small series... |
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My friend who was a Mercedes tech used to tell me to never buy a Benz during the month of October. Apparently the Germans have beer on tap at the factory over there and there were times of too much of something. He told me they found oranges in the doors and funky things like that.
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Fest season runs from the middle of April through the end of Septemberish. Just depends on where you are. Munich is crazy in the month of October. So crazy that I won't go. The beer tent spots are reserved for 2 years in advance. No chance of getting in there. There is a ton of reason why to buy a certain vehicle on a certain day, none of which is feasible to try and predict to 100%. October for German cars, 50/50.....LOL.
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I say buy it, drive it like you stole it and fix it if it breaks! If it constantly breaks, sell it and buy something else. I know...extraordinary words of wisdom...
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That's an awesome video!
I don't think it matters when or if the "friday" built is true for this matter or not. They all go through solid Quality Assurance inspection before they ship these cars (not just M's) per batch I'm assuming. I say it's a design flow that they couldn't recall because they couldn't back track exact models/batch or maybe it's just that random. |
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Anything is possible, of course. As a child I walked the floors of the GM factory with my father, 40+ years ago. The factory workers labored in atrocious conditions, poor lighting, bad air and everywhere you looked the place was filthy. It left a deep impression on me, and I asked my father at the time, why would people want to work here? He responded that they had nowhere else to go and were desperate for work. Even at that young age it motivated me to get an education, but also left me wondering how could anything good come out of this place? Answer, nothing did.
Fast forward to today, the new factories are clean, well lit, with filtered air. Working conditions have to be excellent, because you can't build an exceptional and competitive product when you have unhappy workers laboring in unsuitable conditions. There will always be an exception to this rule, such as Foxconn (where iPhone's are manufactured, but that's a whole new story). With respect to the build of the S65, those rooms look like hospital OR's. I will also bet that there is great supervision, these are coveted well paying jobs so I trust that they are doing a great job. This said, I will still have my rod bearings replaced prior to a planned SC install. My sense is that the latter is more related to engineering than assembly, much like the Porsche IMS issue of recent years. |
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