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Cadillac CEO smack talking
http://m.motortrend.com/wot/cadillac...rs_lovers.html
When you gotta trash talk to just bring attention to your product, you know you're in trouble... I will keep an open mind, but i dont care for the styling of the CTS. They better be bringing out new suspension geometry, better damping, and chassis improvements if they wanna match M.
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I, for one, truly hope that their bite matches their bark. I'm rooting for them. I couldn't care less if the ATS-V, in the hands of a pro driver, ends up being marginally faster around a road course than my M3. My driving skill will never be at a level where being a second or two faster around a 2 mile road course will ever really matter.
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I wouldn't say they're in "trouble", he's doing exactly what he needs to be doing. Bring attention to the brand, Cadillac's products have gotten largely positive reviews with their driving dynamics apparently better than BMW's current crop of cars which have admittedly gotten softer. Plus I'd love for an American company to be viewed in the same light as the Germans one day. We have the talent, we have the resources, so I'd love to see the Americans as a viable alternative 5-10 years from now. Their problem is brand image, he's working on that so I hope he pulls through. We as consumers with more viable product offers keeps everyone on their toes and gives us more options. I have no doubt that the ATS-V will probably out perform and out dance an M3, all the while providing more feedback than BMW, hell the ATS and CTS already reportedly provide a lot more feedback than the 3 Series and 5 Series respectively. GM's magnetic shocks are some of the best in the business, the problem in my opinion is the styling. It just doesn't resonate well with me. |
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04-24-2015, 08:33 AM | #6 |
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I'd be happy to buy a Caddy. Fix your brand image, and make a car that isn't as big as a house. They did partially address that latter bit with the ATS, but man, it's seriously hideous.
I'd like to see something driver focused, about as big as the 1/2 series, coupe with a 2+2 seating arrangement, front engine, RWD, Manual, and LSD. Honestly if they did that, I'd consider it.
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04-24-2015, 11:39 AM | #8 |
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Yea, the American muscle car might be back but its not in a Caddy badge nor at a Caddy price tag.
This kind of stuff is stupid. Trash talking for what? Some ugly looking cars that would have been designed better by a 10 year old? I don't see the new CTS V selling any better than the previous CTS V. The ATS V isn't going to sell well neither. At least they have the Escalade to keep them afloat, oh wait! They're cutting back on that! |
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04-24-2015, 11:59 AM | #11 |
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American cars will never be on the same playing field as german cars IMO. The gap is to large, and when the US catches up german cars have move that much further ahead.
The problem with american cars is the design. Engine specs are on thing, but overall design and implementation is what really holds back american cars. Just my two cents, but im 37 years old and have yet to see it happen, and would bet it never does. If I could talk to the executives at american car companies and give some advice it would be "make cars people want to buy". |
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If as a business consultant what you would say is "make cars people want to buy", no surprise you CAN NOT talk to executives. "I want to buy" is so far away from "I am buying, take my money". Take Toyota for example, looks like no one wants to buy their cars, yet so many are sold. As for my case with regards to German cars, "No, I do not want to buy a 'me-too' overpriced underequipped 4 cylinder diesel car with a 'badge'!". I'm not defending Cadillac, but given the European market situation (ad nauseam BMW, Audi, Mercedes, even Porsche) I'd even take a Cadillac. |
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I'm guessing this is related to Cadillac getting Nurburgring times this week. I bet the V cars destroyed anything German. I think the CTS-V has the best shot. The M5, E63 and S7 are significantly overweight and incredibly underpowered compared to the new CTS-V.
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Sounds perfect. Any idea what the concept is called? I'd like to look it up.
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You forgot the FWD 1 Series Sedan. |
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I didn't realize BMW making a car precluded Caddy from making one. What a dreary automotive landscape that would be.
Which will suffer from FWD.
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In my view it is already dreary as you say. But that the is case of most activities in our today's society (looking at phone/smartphone industry for example).
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04-24-2015, 05:48 PM | #21 |
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Pretty valid point. Could be worse though. Imagine if Honda and Toyota weren't both gunning to come back to the performance market? Imagine if Jaguar and Caddy weren't actively reinventing their images. Competition breeds success. It won't be overnight but I dream of the performance car saturation of yesteryear coming back.
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In the most recent Car and Driver test between the ATS, Audi S5, and the Lexus RC350F-sport the ATS beat both cars hands down in driver focused metrics (stopped, steered, and handled better). It lost because the CUE gets bad ratings from mag writers (but owners who have spent lots of time with CUE seem to like it), and the N/A GM V6 didn't make power like the supercharged 3L V6 in the Audi (there's a surprise...).
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