Even trade?

shepard10 · 04-22-2015, 06:04 PM

Hello all.
So I previously owned a 2012 335i, and the lease was up so I sent it back and bought a 2011 Range rover sport.

I thought it was a good idea at the time, and don't get me wrong the range rover is a great car, but it is SO boring to drive. Ive had the Range rover for almost 5 months and I need to get rid of it. I was going to sell it but I came across a guy who has a 2009 M3 and wants to trade me. He wants to do a trade, plus me giving him $2,000.
I need to hear some input from you guys.
Here are the specs of both cars.

-2011 Range Rover Sport-
-49,000 miles
-Keyless entry
-36 month/36,000 mile extended warranty
-Sport GT limited edition 2 package
-Ebony-Lunar Alcantara interior
-Upgraded 480 Watts HD Radio
-Paddle Shifters
-NO accidents

-2009 BMW M3-
-42,000 miles
-NO WARRANTY
-DCT transmission
-Premium harmon kardon sound system
-Stage 2 ESS tune
-Sec cat delete
-ACM exhaust mod

Again, he wants to trade plus me giving him $2,000

Here are pics of both cars.

Flying Ace · 04-22-2015, 06:09 PM

must be b/c he hates the red grills...

okay being serious here...what do you think the retail price is for the Land Rover right now in a private sale?

warp10 · 04-22-2015, 06:17 PM

not a competition package. not available in 09 and wheels are not even right. just fyi...

shepard10 · 04-22-2015, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by warp10

not a competition package. not available in 09 and wheels are not even right. just fyi...

Yea just realized that. Oops

shepard10 · 04-22-2015, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

must be b/c he hates the red grills...

okay being serious here...what do you think the retail price is for the Land Rover right now in a private sale?

KBB has the Rover listed at around 30-34k about.
KBB has the M3 listed at around 37-41k...

But the thing that is holding me back is that there is no warranty on the m3. I am worried maintenance costs are going to screw me over, however, I have never owned an m3.

spiderspider · 04-22-2015, 06:33 PM

start up a maintenance fund with that $2K. I know I'd much rather have the M than the SUV

edit: sorry, just noticed you are giving him the $2K.

Flying Ace · 04-22-2015, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shepard10

KBB has the Rover listed at around 30-34k about.
KBB has the M3 listed at around 37-41k...

But the thing that is holding me back is that there is no warranty on the m3. I am worried maintenance costs are going to screw me over, however, I have never owned an m3.

those figures look about right.

The Land Rover will set you back on maintenance and fixes as well. You just don't know it yet.

grantmax · 04-22-2015, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

those figures look about right.

The Land Rover will set you back on maintenance and fixes as well. You just don't know it yet.

Extra points for "Land Rover". That Sport was/is not a "Range".

Get the M. You live in Arizona. Live a little.

Ashley Schaeffer BMW · 04-22-2015, 06:58 PM

Why would he get a stage 2 tune with only a secondary cat delete?

I'd pass.

Trade it into Carmax for an M3 with a 100,000 mile maxcare warranty.

BloomRunsDubs · 04-22-2015, 07:39 PM

Id say even trade. No money on top of the Rover. That Rover would be baaaaaad if you blacked out all the red accents though

Yoddha · 04-22-2015, 08:49 PM

I wouldn't go for it mate. Honestly your best bet would be to sell the Range off and shell out the additional cash for a newer M3 with lower miles and under warranty. Unless you can have him present all paperwork for his maintenance records and have the car inspected thoroughly, I wouldn't pull the trigger. On top of which, the newer models have the competition package and new LCI taillights as well as iDrive update. Go for at least a 2011.

obe100 · 04-22-2015, 09:32 PM

personnally, I'd keep the Rover and change the red accents.....

redvitesse · 04-22-2015, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

those figures look about right.

The Land Rover will set you back on maintenance and fixes as well. You just don't know it yet.

+1 there is a very good reason that the range rovers are depreciation nightmares. That air ride suspension is a nightmare to fix.

STooK · 04-22-2015, 10:38 PM

I would get rid of the RR ASAP. The M3 looks beat and it looks like they put the rear wheels in the front and the fronts on the rear. I would definitely get a PPI on it at the very least..

GMe90 · 04-22-2015, 10:53 PM

It all comes down to how much you enjoy the Range Rover. Frankly, I wouldn't pay $10k for a brand new Range Rover because the value for me is just not there. Conversely, I'd drop $40k for a used M3 with manual transmission. Before making the deal for the M3, go to CarMax and see what kind of a deal you can work out with them. CarMax has a good number of M3, and the CarMax warranty is great. For $3k, you get 6 years, 100k mile warranty.

Flying Ace · 04-22-2015, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by redvitesse

+1 there is a very good reason that the range rovers are depreciation nightmares. That air ride suspension is a nightmare to fix.

maintenance and defect fixes are a nightmare on Land Rovers.

shepard10 · 04-23-2015, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley Schaeffer BMW

Why would he get a stage 2 tune with only a secondary cat delete?

I'd pass.

Trade it into Carmax for an M3 with a 100,000 mile maxcare warranty.

Just so I can bring this up to the owner of the m3, what other things did you have in mind to do to an m3 if you had it stage 2?

joneffingvo · 04-23-2015, 12:11 AM

I traded my 335is into Porsche North Scottsdale and picked up an 09 M3 coupe very similar to what you have listed and it was probably one of the best decisions i've made yet. However with that being said i wouldn't trade this guy something seems fishy. I'd sell the range and find a well maintained M3 that's bone stock.

Here's the ad i see in which he makes no mention of the tune: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/4968257605.html

shepard10 · 04-23-2015, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joneffingvo

I traded my 335is into Porsche North Scottsdale and picked up an 09 M3 coupe very similar to what you have listed and it was probably one of the best decisions i've made yet. However with that being said i wouldn't trade this guy something seems fishy. I'd sell the range and find a well maintained M3 that's bone stock.

Here's the ad i see in which he makes no mention of the tune: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/4968257605.html

Thank you all for your input.

NYBulldog · 04-23-2015, 12:34 AM

no way, can't believe he's asking for money. your car looks better cared for than his. are those front wheels on the rear? WTH? there may be a 2009 M3 out there worth trading for, but it ain't that one.

Ashley Schaeffer BMW · 04-23-2015, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by shepard10

Just so I can bring this up to the owner of the m3, what other things did you have in mind to do to an m3 if you had it stage 2?

I wouldn't put a aftermarket tune on my car but usually a stage II tune is for fully catless set ups.

A secondary cat delete is pointless and does nothing.

BimmerRookie · 04-23-2015, 08:23 AM

Why do the wheels looks so "off"?

04-22-2015, 06:04 PM	#1
shepard10 First class N55 45 Rep 291 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (1)	Even trade? Hello all. So I previously owned a 2012 335i, and the lease was up so I sent it back and bought a 2011 Range rover sport. I thought it was a good idea at the time, and don't get me wrong the range rover is a great car, but it is SO boring to drive. Ive had the Range rover for almost 5 months and I need to get rid of it. I was going to sell it but I came across a guy who has a 2009 M3 and wants to trade me. He wants to do a trade, plus me giving him $2,000. I need to hear some input from you guys. Here are the specs of both cars. -2011 Range Rover Sport- -49,000 miles -Keyless entry -36 month/36,000 mile extended warranty -Sport GT limited edition 2 package -Ebony-Lunar Alcantara interior -Upgraded 480 Watts HD Radio -Paddle Shifters -NO accidents -2009 BMW M3- -42,000 miles -NO WARRANTY -DCT transmission -Premium harmon kardon sound system -Stage 2 ESS tune -Sec cat delete -ACM exhaust mod Again, he wants to trade plus me giving him $2,000 Here are pics of both cars. __________________ BMW \| BURGER TUNING \| VALENTINE \| VMR \| VREDESTEIN \| BILLY BOAT \| FESLER BUILT \| FILM DYNAMICS \| Instagram: colarbear http://www.flickr.com/photos/98044295@N08/ Last edited by shepard10; 04-22-2015 at 06:26 PM..
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warp10 Lieutenant Colonel 776 Rep 1,718 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Jet Black:ZCP, ZCV, ZP Join Date: May 2011 Location: Atlanta, Ga iTrader: (7) Garage List 2011 M3 [10.00] 2011 28i X3 [0.00]	not a competition package. not available in 09 and wheels are not even right. just fyi... __________________
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spiderspider Captain 312 Rep 657 Posts Drives: E90 M3 DCT, 991 C4S, E46 330i Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Danville, CA iTrader: (0)	start up a maintenance fund with that $2K. I know I'd much rather have the M than the SUV edit: sorry, just noticed you are giving him the $2K.
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Ashley Schaeffer BMW Banned 91 Rep 833 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charlotte iTrader: (1)	Why would he get a stage 2 tune with only a secondary cat delete? I'd pass. Trade it into Carmax for an M3 with a 100,000 mile maxcare warranty.
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BloomRunsDubs Second Lieutenant 128 Rep 250 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: United States iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 M3 Competition [0.00] 2022 Challenger Hel ... [0.00] 2017 Grand Cherokee ... [0.00] 2009 Lamborghini Ga ... [0.00]	Id say even trade. No money on top of the Rover. That Rover would be baaaaaad if you blacked out all the red accents though
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Yoddha Captain 251 Rep 817 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (6) Garage List 2013 BMW M3 [0.00]	I wouldn't go for it mate. Honestly your best bet would be to sell the Range off and shell out the additional cash for a newer M3 with lower miles and under warranty. Unless you can have him present all paperwork for his maintenance records and have the car inspected thoroughly, I wouldn't pull the trigger. On top of which, the newer models have the competition package and new LCI taillights as well as iDrive update. Go for at least a 2011.
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obe100 Lieutenant 232 Rep 496 Posts Drives: on the weekends… Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Planet Earth iTrader: (1)	personnally, I'd keep the Rover and change the red accents.....
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STooK Lieutenant Colonel 727 Rep 1,974 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 ZCP Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY iTrader: (6)	I would get rid of the RR ASAP. The M3 looks beat and it looks like they put the rear wheels in the front and the fronts on the rear. I would definitely get a PPI on it at the very least.. __________________ 2013 BMW E92 ///M3 AW/BLK ZCP CF Roof 6 Speed - Perfection 2011 BMW E90 328i xDrive Space Grey/Black - Daily 2011 BMW E93 ///M3 MW/FR/BLK 6 Speed - Gone but not forgotten
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GMe90 Captain 356 Rep 928 Posts Drives: 2007 328i Coupe, ZSP, Premium Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Knoxville iTrader: (0) Garage List 2003 BMW Z4 3.0i [6.00] 2007 BMW 328i [10.00]	It all comes down to how much you enjoy the Range Rover. Frankly, I wouldn't pay $10k for a brand new Range Rover because the value for me is just not there. Conversely, I'd drop $40k for a used M3 with manual transmission. Before making the deal for the M3, go to CarMax and see what kind of a deal you can work out with them. CarMax has a good number of M3, and the CarMax warranty is great. For $3k, you get 6 years, 100k mile warranty.
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joneffingvo Second Lieutenant 70 Rep 294 Posts Drives: 12 C63 AMG Coupe Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tempe, AZ iTrader: (0)	I traded my 335is into Porsche North Scottsdale and picked up an 09 M3 coupe very similar to what you have listed and it was probably one of the best decisions i've made yet. However with that being said i wouldn't trade this guy something seems fishy. I'd sell the range and find a well maintained M3 that's bone stock. Here's the ad i see in which he makes no mention of the tune: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/4968257605.html __________________ gone but not forgotten
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NYBulldog Specialist 1310 Rep 2,708 Posts Drives: Nikes Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: NuYawk iTrader: (19)	no way, can't believe he's asking for money. your car looks better cared for than his. are those front wheels on the rear? WTH? there may be a 2009 M3 out there worth trading for, but it ain't that one.
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BimmerRookie Major 469 Rep 1,320 Posts Drives: E93 Cavalier Z24 M3 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Why do the wheels looks so "off"?
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