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After the amazing design of the i8, we now have the iBoring...
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The EV thing BMW has really been missing is range, and if they deliver this with 370 miles of range that will FINALLY give them a nice firm seat at the EV table. It doesn't have to look like a spaceship. Its better it looks like a "normal" car and performs like a really good EV. 70% of EV owners charge at home and that's why a min of 200-250 miles of range is essential for a daily driver (IMHO). It seems most of the major automotive mfr's have finally started to figure this out. Now its BMW's turn...
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Loving the flush to the body door handles. I hope this is a new design direction across the whole BMW lineup
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Electric cars are for a whole new clientele, so why not wow them with a forward looking body like the concepts? BTW, you need to read my original post better because I never mentioned charging and range, just design of the car...
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Just in case this hasn't already been said - they're quoting WLTP range, EPA range is likely something closer to 80% of that number. Still impressive.
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Not to mention the range likely won't be close to the concept/goal. The iNext was quoted at mid 400's and now its down to 360 on the WLTP and who know's by tomorrow it could drop even further. I wouldn't count on range until we get production specs, even Porsche still hasn't shared their EPA numbers on the Taycan yet (although i know its gonna be dissapointing)
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if other manufacture don't outgun Tesla they need to out range, anything sub 5 sec 0 to 60 is "sufficient"...
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Tesla is still level 2 right? Though given it's all optical based and Tesla is more willing to "push" before it's prime time (see Smart summon) it can still be ahead i suppose.
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Was the i4 range on first page the euro or us cycle?
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Roadshow has confirmed specs and also reporting some additional i4 specs:
• 530 hp from a 80-kilowatt-hour battery, producing about 390 kilowatts (approximately 530hp) • 373 miles range (on European WLTP cycle); expect the US number to be a bit less, probably around 340-350 miles • 0-62 in 4 seconds flat • Electronically limited top speed of 120 mph • 80% charge in about 35 minutes (on 150-kW DC fast charger) • Adds 62 miles of range in about 6 minutes (compare to current i3, which takes 17 min to do the same) • Generation 5 battery packs • significantly smaller than the Generation 3 and 4 packs used in current BMW EVs
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And of course the natural comparisons will be to the M3 and Model 3 Performance, where it will probably be bested in both cases. BMW is in a bit of a tricky spot because they can't upstage their flagship, but they want to make a good showing against the established EV competition. I suspect it will be priced competitively against (within 10% of) the Model 3. |
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~340-350 EPA miles sounds great, although is this confirmed for the production vehicle, as in this is what the owners will get?, Or is this a target range? Like the iNext, which BMW lowered from 400+ to 360 WLTP miles for range, and could possibly still be lowered further before debuting? And when will this i4 actually be present on dealer lots? 2020? 2021? 2022? By then, Tesla could update its Model 3 even further and get closer or beat BMW's range, its definitely possibly seeing as the Model S currently has a top range of 370 miles.
This is a tough class to compete in, Tesla is pretty much what BMW was in the compact sports sedan class years ago... the "benchmark" to which other automakers strive to. |
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I would be fine with 250-300 mile range really. I wanted to go with an electric car for my next lease in Feb, but there is next to no choices. If Tesla made a better interior and more choices (black headliner, Chrome delete, colors, etc.) I might have made the swtich. As it stands, the batery tech is amazing but the actual car is very boring and feels very cheap. This i4 could be a great propostion.
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Need a i4 100 to outdone Model 3 P for bragging right, though guess that will upset m3/m4...
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