Multiple Tunes for N54 335i

Edge Iron · 05-05-2014, 10:58 AM

I am looking to add a tune to my car (currently running a JB+). This is a list I compiled searching forums and websites and is by no way complete.

Some of these tunes are well known, others I stumbled upon and found almost no information about them. A couple of these are available via Amazon as well; I did not search EBay.

All numbers are assumed crank horse power, unless otherwise noted, as found on websites.

Prices are as advertised on the main site when possible, some can be found cheaper.

Posted numbers are as found via advertising as to what they claim, I understand that they can be low in some cases (JB4 for example).

Some flash tunes offer multiple stages for a single price but I only posted what was advertised (I hear ESS has a stage 3 & 4 but their website only had stage 1 & 2 on it).

Most flash tunes posted are for stage 1 or on stock cars. Some offer tunes for FMIC or DP upgrades, which would change the output numbers.

Please use this list to research tunes for yourself to see what fits you best for your needs. HP and TQ alone don’t fully describe each tune.

I did include a couple European tunes, not sure if they are available in the states.

Feel free to add a tune or piggyback I missed along with prices and claimed gains.

AlpineSwift · 05-05-2014, 11:13 AM

Love my Cobb AP. I had the Openflash Tablet and it was great apart from the lack of tuning support. If you know what you're doing with tuning then the tablet is fine for just about any build. If you would prefer to leave tuning to the professionals, PTF can work with the Cobb to make your car really fly regardless of your setup.

Since I'm planning ST in the future, the Cobb was the only option for long term that I wouldn't have to really stress over.

Long story short, Cobb FTW.

E30 Racer · 05-05-2014, 11:23 AM

Those GIAC Stg 2 numbers are misleading...

Edge Iron · 05-06-2014, 07:19 PM

I have 1 guy at work with a Cobb and another with the JB3. They both have only good things to say. I was thinking about trying something different.

Bimmer.335i. · 05-07-2014, 12:41 PM

JB4

09BMW335i · 05-07-2014, 01:54 PM

I run a JB4 and Backend flash

vivanapoli806 · 05-07-2014, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edge Iron

I have 1 guy at work with a Cobb and another with the JB3. They both have only good things to say. I was thinking about trying something different.

I would rather go with something that's proven and reliable than try to be different. I like my cobb tune

blbrchnk · 05-07-2014, 02:11 PM

I second the JB4 + backend flash. You get the best of both worlds. The flash for the fuel remapping and the piggyback for on the fly boost control and meth handling.

tc535i · 05-07-2014, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blbrchnk

I second the JB4 + backend flash. You get the best of both worlds. The flash for the fuel remapping and the piggyback for on the fly boost control and meth handling.

What backend flash should one use if they have jb4/dp/ic/cp and may eventually do an inline pump to run an e85 mix for dyno/drag every now and then?

Edge Iron · 05-07-2014, 04:22 PM

Before I get a tune beyond my JB+ I am looking to add an oil cooler since mine didn't come with one and I live in the South, it gets hot (90+ today). A couple of short sprints on my way home (45 miles one way) and the car runs about 20F hotter most of the way home. I will do more research but I am pretty sure it'll be Cobb w/ E-tune, JB4 or Procede. I'd like to learn about each one first. Like how does the JB4 or Procede autotune work. I know the info is out there, I haven't had time to look for it yet. I don't plan on adding Meth but I do live near a E85 station (30 min away...). Mostly just looking for a solid, reliable tune for my daily driver....
My next research project will be a FMIC. So far I think I want a 5" due to less pressure loss and easier fit.

DuDai · 05-07-2014, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edge Iron

Before I get a tune beyond my JB+ I am looking to add an oil cooler since mine didn't come with one and I live in the South, it gets hot (90+ today). A couple of short sprints on my way home (45 miles one way) and the car runs about 20F hotter most of the way home. I will do more research but I am pretty sure it'll be Cobb w/ E-tune, JB4 or Procede. I'd like to learn about each one first. Like how does the JB4 or Procede autotune work. I know the info is out there, I haven't had time to look for it yet. I don't plan on adding Meth but I do live near a E85 station (30 min away...). Mostly just looking for a solid, reliable tune for my daily driver....
My next research project will be a FMIC. So far I think I want a 5" due to less pressure loss and easier fit.

Can go BMS Backend flash + JB4 G5 ISO. Thats what i go and its a fantastic experience. Finally just dumped in a tank of 109 octane and

Map 7 with E85 backend flash which is what Terry recommended instead of the Race flash was a real kick in the pants!
The backend flash really helped out with the fuelling and it runs beautifully all the time now. I ran cobb by itself for a while but, it just didn't seem as strong on Stage 2 Agressive+ as JB4 Map 5 or Map 2. I run Map 5 all the time now and its great on 94 octane. I highly recommend BMS Backend flash + JB4. But thats just my experience.

05-07-2014, 05:28 PM

Welcome to 4 years ago:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=374508

techwhiz · 05-07-2014, 05:29 PM

I'm a Cobb AP man.
Love the ability to flash and remove for diagnostics without going under the hood. YMMV

AlpineSwift · 05-07-2014, 11:49 PM

Just food for thought, a friend recently dyno'd his FBO 335i with a JB4 (no back end flash) on map 5 with 93 and was pulling dangerously lean AFR's. IMO, JB4 shouldn't be used without the back end flash.

cialz · 05-08-2014, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlpineSwift

Just food for thought, a friend recently dyno'd his FBO 335i with a JB4 (no back end flash) on map 5 with 93 and was pulling dangerously lean AFR's. IMO, JB4 shouldn't be used without the back end flash.

Hmm wonder if Terry will jump on this one soon

Edge Iron · 05-08-2014, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FCobra94

Welcome to 4 years ago:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=374508

Seen it already. It only has 7 tunes on it, although they are the most popular ones for the most part, and I wanted to put all the ones I could find in one chart. I made it for myself but decided to share if anyone else was looking into it as well.

tc535i · 05-08-2014, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlpineSwift

Just food for thought, a friend recently dyno'd his FBO 335i with a JB4 (no back end flash) on map 5 with 93 and was pulling dangerously lean AFR's. IMO, JB4 shouldn't be used without the back end flash.

What afrs was he seeing across the Rpm range?

jayzF30 · 05-08-2014, 10:06 AM

COBB+PTF protune

/thread

V8bait · 05-08-2014, 10:10 AM

Obvious lack of important free flash program thousands have been using noted.

mike@x-ph.com · 05-08-2014, 02:39 PM

Jb4

AlpineSwift · 05-08-2014, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tc535i

What afrs was he seeing across the Rpm range?

14.3-14.7+

tc535i · 05-08-2014, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlpineSwift

14.3-14.7+

as I understand it, that's what are cars are supposed to do. Scary to traditional injection guys, but with direct injection those kind of AFRs are safe even up high

05-05-2014, 10:58 AM	#1
Edge Iron New Member 8 Rep 26 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	Multiple Tunes for N54 335i I am looking to add a tune to my car (currently running a JB+). This is a list I compiled searching forums and websites and is by no way complete. Some of these tunes are well known, others I stumbled upon and found almost no information about them. A couple of these are available via Amazon as well; I did not search EBay. All numbers are assumed crank horse power, unless otherwise noted, as found on websites. Prices are as advertised on the main site when possible, some can be found cheaper. Posted numbers are as found via advertising as to what they claim, I understand that they can be low in some cases (JB4 for example). Some flash tunes offer multiple stages for a single price but I only posted what was advertised (I hear ESS has a stage 3 & 4 but their website only had stage 1 & 2 on it). Most flash tunes posted are for stage 1 or on stock cars. Some offer tunes for FMIC or DP upgrades, which would change the output numbers. Please use this list to research tunes for yourself to see what fits you best for your needs. HP and TQ alone don’t fully describe each tune. I did include a couple European tunes, not sure if they are available in the states. Feel free to add a tune or piggyback I missed along with prices and claimed gains. Attached Images
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AlpineSwift Colonel 77 Rep 2,114 Posts Drives: 2008 335Xi Coupé Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Castle Rock, CO iTrader: (3)	Love my Cobb AP. I had the Openflash Tablet and it was great apart from the lack of tuning support. If you know what you're doing with tuning then the tablet is fine for just about any build. If you would prefer to leave tuning to the professionals, PTF can work with the Cobb to make your car really fly regardless of your setup. Since I'm planning ST in the future, the Cobb was the only option for long term that I wouldn't have to really stress over. Long story short, Cobb FTW. __________________ E92 '08 335Xi 6AT - Cobb AP3 Tuned by MAC Autosport, Original Prototype Xi DOCRace 6266 Single Turbo Swap, VRSF CP w/Synapse BOV, VRSF 7" FMIC, BMS Cowl, H&R Coilovers, Renn Motorsport RS-51's, Stoptech Stage 2 Slotted, xHP Stage 3, Earl's Racing Oil Cooler, Turner Boost Gauge, M3 Lip Spoiler. Standing Mile Record Holder for Xi over a mile high: 168.2MPH @ 5512'; The Colorado Mile hosted by The US Mile.
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Edge Iron New Member 8 Rep 26 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	I have 1 guy at work with a Cobb and another with the JB3. They both have only good things to say. I was thinking about trying something different.
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Bimmer.335i. Private First Class 12 Rep 166 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW335i [0.00]	JB4 __________________ E92 335i // Space Grey on Coral Red // Muffler Delete // Blackline Trim // BMS DCI // JB4 // VRSF 7'' Intercooler // H&R Sport springs // Matte Grill // Michelin Pilot Super Sports
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09BMW335i Second Lieutenant 29 Rep 259 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: northwest burbs, IL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 Ford Explorer ... [0.00] 2009 335I [0.00]	I run a JB4 and Backend flash __________________ 09 335i Sport --MHD (Tune by Wedge )--Inlet System by Trueform Technologies --Tial BOV--Macht Schnell Catless Downpipes--AMS FMIC--Walbro 455 LPFP--HPF Gen2 Exhaust--SPEC Stage 3+ clutch / billet steel flywheel--
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blbrchnk Second Lieutenant 12 Rep 224 Posts Drives: 2008 e90 335xi Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bridgeport, WV iTrader: (3)	I second the JB4 + backend flash. You get the best of both worlds. The flash for the fuel remapping and the piggyback for on the fly boost control and meth handling. __________________ 2009 BSM E92 AT 335i - RB Turbos - MMP Inlets - AA Race FMIC - AP DPs - KW V1s - RB PCV - N20 MAP - Rotora Forged BBK - VRSF CP w/ Tial BOV - Fuel It Stage 2 LPFP - Alpina TCU Flash
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Edge Iron New Member 8 Rep 26 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	Before I get a tune beyond my JB+ I am looking to add an oil cooler since mine didn't come with one and I live in the South, it gets hot (90+ today). A couple of short sprints on my way home (45 miles one way) and the car runs about 20F hotter most of the way home. I will do more research but I am pretty sure it'll be Cobb w/ E-tune, JB4 or Procede. I'd like to learn about each one first. Like how does the JB4 or Procede autotune work. I know the info is out there, I haven't had time to look for it yet. I don't plan on adding Meth but I do live near a E85 station (30 min away...). Mostly just looking for a solid, reliable tune for my daily driver.... My next research project will be a FMIC. So far I think I want a 5" due to less pressure loss and easier fit.
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techwhiz Colonel 453 Rep 2,973 Posts Drives: e90 335i Sedan - Arctic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Bay Area, Ca iTrader: (4)	I'm a Cobb AP man. Love the ability to flash and remove for diagnostics without going under the hood. YMMV __________________ Arctic Metallic\CF Splitters, Spoiler, Mirror Covers\LED Tails\LSD\Tinted\Coded\Apex Square SM10-19"\LED Angel Eyes\Gloss Black Grill\Integrated V1 & Galaxy Tab\M-Performance Brakes\Cobb Tuned\xHP Flash\Resonator Removed and -> is your friend.
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AlpineSwift Colonel 77 Rep 2,114 Posts Drives: 2008 335Xi Coupé Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Castle Rock, CO iTrader: (3)	Just food for thought, a friend recently dyno'd his FBO 335i with a JB4 (no back end flash) on map 5 with 93 and was pulling dangerously lean AFR's. IMO, JB4 shouldn't be used without the back end flash. __________________ E92 '08 335Xi 6AT - Cobb AP3 Tuned by MAC Autosport, Original Prototype Xi DOCRace 6266 Single Turbo Swap, VRSF CP w/Synapse BOV, VRSF 7" FMIC, BMS Cowl, H&R Coilovers, Renn Motorsport RS-51's, Stoptech Stage 2 Slotted, xHP Stage 3, Earl's Racing Oil Cooler, Turner Boost Gauge, M3 Lip Spoiler. Standing Mile Record Holder for Xi over a mile high: 168.2MPH @ 5512'; The Colorado Mile hosted by The US Mile.
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jayzF30 Captain 34 Rep 783 Posts Drives: '07 335i, '09 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Thornhill iTrader: (0)	COBB+PTF protune /thread __________________ '07 335i E90 - PTF ProTUNED by Dzenno - COBB FMIC - AFE DCI - AA DPs - HFS4 Meth '09 M3 - Stock
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