My next car .........

F30AM · 04-21-2014, 03:02 PM

I need to downsize really badly. My F30, though a fabulous drive, is too big for little old me. I also want a petrol engine.

It is now a toss-up between a fully loaded* 5 door Golf R + DSG and a fully loaded** BMW M135i + 8AT. I need 5 doors so that scrubs out the beautiful M235i, unless I get the deal of the decade.

I am really loving a white 5 door Golf R.

If I select the BMW, it will be another Superman. What else, eh?

Now all I have to do is arrange a back-to-back test drive.

* The whole hog
** Within reason

PS: The Aldi S3 Sportback is a frump and the Mercedes A45AMG has a horrid ride, yuck on the inside and is overpriced.

happycow6171 · 04-21-2014, 03:04 PM

They do a 5 door m135i plus on 5 door there is a 500 pound loyalty bonus.

teaston · 04-21-2014, 03:04 PM

If you are asking peoples opinions, then my suggestion is easy,

BMWSKI · 04-21-2014, 03:08 PM

Not driven the S3 but drove an A45 for a bit. You're right though, a terrible ride.
Having said that I took out the old shape 'R' before deciding on my 3 series and the ride in that was even worse! The auto box was pants and completely sluggish/unresponsive. Don't get me started on the harsh ride...
Maybe the new R is better???

badders74 · 04-21-2014, 03:15 PM

New Golf R is beautiful and a nice drive. My sister has bought the new one. The only thing she says is make sure you get the stereo upgrade because the standard one is worse than her old 60 plate Golf GTI!!

gatsojon · 04-21-2014, 03:17 PM

I really fancy the M235i but wouldn't consider the 135i - ugly. Otherwise the Golf R for me, 5 door looks great. Agree with your summary of the Audi and Merc. Is there a Volvo option these days?

Enjoy the deliberations...

happycow6171 · 04-21-2014, 03:17 PM

Is the golf r as fast as 335d?

F30AM · 04-21-2014, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happycow6171

Is the golf r as fast as 335d?

Autocar:
In the streaming wet:
Golf R with DSG
0-60 mph in 4.8s
0-100 mph in 12.0s
Standing 1/4 mile in 13.4s at 105.2 mph
Standing km in 24.6s at 132mph

Even faster in the dry.
It will give a 335d xDrive a good headache when cornering as it is not a roll-y poll-y.

So it is fast enough for me.

F30AM · 04-21-2014, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatsojon

I really fancy the M235i but wouldn't consider the 135i - ugly. Otherwise the Golf R for me, 5 door looks great. Agree with your summary of the Audi and Merc. Is there a Volvo option these days?

Enjoy the deliberations...

If the M135i had a better snout, I would jump for it. As is, it is a bit meh.

No Volvo option yet or for sometime.

happycow6171 · 04-21-2014, 03:38 PM

Still think the golf isn't as nice a product as the bmw, me and the missus love our cars, but when we go to vw we just can't get excited about their product range

Nick the Greek · 04-21-2014, 03:40 PM

Easy.

Golf R.

In white!

davyk31 · 04-21-2014, 03:44 PM

Golf no question. The one series has a great engine but its so ugly, rides terribly and is much more cramped than the golf. Also facelift 1 Series is coming pretty soon. Build quality of a 1 Series is also nothing special.

F30AM · 04-21-2014, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick the Greek

Easy.

Golf R.

In white!

The Mk7 Golf in white is a feast for the eyes. Really quite beautiful. Yes, it looks like it for me, but not just yet.

dazzapb · 04-21-2014, 03:45 PM

No way M135i all the way, assume the cars being equal - at the end of the day I'd rather a BM than a VW. People moan about the high 3 series sales but the golf is number 5 best seller edit - defo test drive them

However Evo really do rate the new R- I wouldn't say no, but maybe the 135 just reminds me of that special engine I had in my former e92 and have a soft spot 6 pot or 4 pot i'd take the 6

F30AM · 04-21-2014, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davyk31

Golf no question. The one series has a great engine but its so ugly, rides terribly and is much more cramped than the golf. Also facelift 1 Series is coming pretty soon. Build quality of a 1 Series is also nothing special.

I really need to see that facelift before the decision is made. Yes, the ride is not that good either.

dazzapb · 04-21-2014, 03:49 PM

Was reading this earlier - http://www.evomagazine.com.au/merced...-vs-bmw-m135i/

badders74 · 04-21-2014, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F30AM

Autocar:
In the streaming wet:
0-60 mph in 4.8s
0-100 mph in 12.0s
Standing 1/4 mile in 13.4s at 105.2 mph
Standing km in 24.6s at 132mph

Even faster in the dry.
It will give a 335d xDrive a good headache when cornering as it is not a roll-y poll-y.

So it is fast enough for me.

Those times are for the DSG and not the manual box.

badders74 · 04-21-2014, 04:02 PM

Personally i prefer the Golf R over the M135i. I have driven both but just love the look and 4 wheel drive of the Golf R.

MRPoisson · 04-21-2014, 04:05 PM

BMW 135i all the way - actually suits EBII (much better than the F30 IMO). The golf just won't have that ultimate driving feel you'll only get from a Bimmer

F30AM · 04-21-2014, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badders74

Those times are for the DSG and not the manual box.

Yes, I know. Don't want a manual.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRPoisson

BMW 135i all the way - actually suits EBII (much better than the F30 IMO). The golf just won't have that ultimate driving feel you'll only get from a Bimmer

You are wrong on both counts.

MRPoisson · 04-21-2014, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F30AM

Yes, I know. Don't want a manual.

You are wrong on both counts.

IYO. Get the golf, you'll be back in a bimmer inside 18 months

dopper99 · 04-21-2014, 05:09 PM

F30AM I can't see you getting a m135i, it has VSS.

I can see you downgrading to a Volkswagen. A 4WD Volkswagen. Well someone has to I guess.

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F30AM Major General 706 Rep 5,021 Posts Drives: F30 330d M Sport sDrive Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: London, UK iTrader: (0)	My next car ......... I need to downsize really badly. My F30, though a fabulous drive, is too big for little old me. I also want a petrol engine. It is now a toss-up between a fully loaded* 5 door Golf R + DSG and a fully loaded** BMW M135i + 8AT. I need 5 doors so that scrubs out the beautiful M235i, unless I get the deal of the decade. I am really loving a white 5 door Golf R. If I select the BMW, it will be another Superman. What else, eh? Now all I have to do is arrange a back-to-back test drive. * The whole hog Within reason PS: The Aldi S3 Sportback is a frump and the Mercedes A45AMG has a horrid ride, yuck on the inside and is overpriced. __________________ Previous: Superman 330d sDrive M Sport + Toys Present: Red Tornado Golf 7R 5 Dr, DSG + Toys**
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BMWSKI Lieutenant Colonel 167 Rep 1,919 Posts Drives: E63 AMG Saloon :) Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Bucks iTrader: (0)	Not driven the S3 but drove an A45 for a bit. You're right though, a terrible ride. Having said that I took out the old shape 'R' before deciding on my 3 series and the ride in that was even worse! The auto box was pants and completely sluggish/unresponsive. Don't get me started on the harsh ride... Maybe the new R is better???
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badders74 Lieutenant 31 Rep 491 Posts Drives: 335d X Drive Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: midlands iTrader: (0)	New Golf R is beautiful and a nice drive. My sister has bought the new one. The only thing she says is make sure you get the stereo upgrade because the standard one is worse than her old 60 plate Golf GTI!! __________________ Fiat Panda, Nova 1.2 Merit, Metro 1.1s, Metro GTI, Pug 106 GTI, 2 WRX's, 2 STI's, Focus 1.6 estate, Megane, Focus ST-2, BMW 123D, NOW 335d XD.
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gatsojon Lieutenant Colonel 498 Rep 1,502 Posts Drives: M4 CP SSII/SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Manchester, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M4 CP [10.00]	I really fancy the M235i but wouldn't consider the 135i - ugly. Otherwise the Golf R for me, 5 door looks great. Agree with your summary of the Audi and Merc. Is there a Volvo option these days? Enjoy the deliberations... __________________ Current: F82 CP SS/SS
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happycow6171 Captain 83 Rep 605 Posts Drives: 335d touring Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: shropshire iTrader: (0)	Still think the golf isn't as nice a product as the bmw, me and the missus love our cars, but when we go to vw we just can't get excited about their product range
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Nick the Greek Banned 2010 Rep 6,065 Posts Drives: M135i. I don't do diesel. Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Easy. Golf R. In white!
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davyk31 Major General 1042 Rep 6,946 Posts Drives: Macan GTS :-) & F40 M135i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern Ireland iTrader: (0)	Golf no question. The one series has a great engine but its so ugly, rides terribly and is much more cramped than the golf. Also facelift 1 Series is coming pretty soon. Build quality of a 1 Series is also nothing special.
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dazzapb Brigadier General 1050 Rep 3,154 Posts Drives: 2019 X3M Comp Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: SW London iTrader: (0)	No way M135i all the way, assume the cars being equal - at the end of the day I'd rather a BM than a VW. People moan about the high 3 series sales but the golf is number 5 best seller edit - defo test drive them However Evo really do rate the new R- I wouldn't say no, but maybe the 135 just reminds me of that special engine I had in my former e92 and have a soft spot 6 pot or 4 pot i'd take the 6 Last edited by dazzapb; 04-21-2014 at 04:05 PM..
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badders74 Lieutenant 31 Rep 491 Posts Drives: 335d X Drive Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: midlands iTrader: (0)	Personally i prefer the Golf R over the M135i. I have driven both but just love the look and 4 wheel drive of the Golf R. __________________ Fiat Panda, Nova 1.2 Merit, Metro 1.1s, Metro GTI, Pug 106 GTI, 2 WRX's, 2 STI's, Focus 1.6 estate, Megane, Focus ST-2, BMW 123D, NOW 335d XD.
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dopper99 Lieutenant General 3531 Rep 11,292 Posts Drives: Golf R Mk8 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (1)	F30AM I can't see you getting a m135i, it has VSS. I can see you downgrading to a Volkswagen. A 4WD Volkswagen. Well someone has to I guess. __________________ Current: Golf R Mk8 Previous: Golf R Mk7.5 Mercedes AMG C63 S Coupe F80 M3 Competition Pack Last edited by dopper99; 04-21-2014 at 05:57 PM..
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