ABS Pump failure

-TARBY- · 01-15-2014, 05:09 AM

Hi Guys and Gals,

Sods law occured this morning..

Car has been faultess as per normal.. Today is MOT day and as I pull off up the road the ABS light comes on (with some other associated ones).. I get to the MOT Garage which happens to be my Local Indie.. They say the ABS pump has gone... Ball park quote £1000...

Any thoughts?

Being a positive man.. the car sailed through the rest of the MOT...

Cheers

Tarbs

ELD70 · 01-15-2014, 07:58 AM

http://www.ecutesting.com/bmw_common...FUzHtAodFWsAHg

Seem to recall a few posts where people used this company.

tmarshall57 · 01-15-2014, 02:57 PM

On a 6 cylinder engine the full part (mechanical pump and electronic module) costs around £1,800. The mechanical unit (repair kit) is around £900.

Send the whole unit to ECU Testing and the cost will be approx £250 including testing, repair and return postage. Do not send to BBA Reman.

On a 4 pot the repair kit mentioned above is about £200.

Roy Keane's dog · 01-18-2014, 04:22 PM

Yeah, go to www.ECUtesting.com and fill out the online form with the part number of the unit and they'll let you know if they can repair/refurb it. If they can, remove and send it to them and once they get it they'll turn it around in 3 days with text updates to let you know what's going on (£255). I got mine back last Thurs and mechanic fitted Fri morn and so far so good. Forget BMW. Get yourself a good indie and it'll be all sorted for a fraction of the price. Thoroughly reccomended.

-TARBY- · 01-24-2014, 02:44 PM

Guys - thank you ever so much for this.

It has turned out to be an interesting saga.

Because I am time bound this is going to be a bit squeaky.. I am certainly not paying the ridculous price that BMW want.. My Indie, who I really do see in a different light after my last two visits, doesnt want to get involved in the whole ECUTesting.com thing..

So i took the car back (MOT doesn't run out till the 28th Feb) and a mate is going to look after the car and get it to his Indie who said he will sort it all in for about £400.

Will keep you posted.

-TARBY- · 01-27-2014, 02:32 PM

This morning the lights and errors all cleared.... I've done nothing

Car going for MOT tomorrow.

tmarshall57 · 01-27-2014, 03:24 PM

Lights will return. With any luck after your MOT.

dy63 · 10-30-2014, 10:40 AM

what happened after?

old grey steve · 10-30-2014, 10:59 AM

Another ABS issue

yep they seem to be going down good and proper, refurb unit wise is the most cost effective way we've got 2 in progress now down side is the cars off the road for a week or so.

Steve

peter2704 · 10-30-2014, 02:54 PM

just had mine done ,I run a 4cyl and it was £302 all in .

old grey steve · 10-30-2014, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by peter2704

just had mine done ,I run a 4cyl and it was £302 all in .

all 4 cylinders are cheap by comparison, the repair kits around £142.80+VAT plus fining and brake fluid and fault clearing, therefore making it look damn cheap compared with a 6 cylinder model

JackHerring · 07-07-2015, 05:01 PM

Instead of starting a new thread i thought I'd revive this one... So, the abs light came up on the dashboard the other day, with two other lights, the hand break light (in yellow) and can't remember the other one, I used the code reader and the codes that came up where

005DF0 - pump motor faulty
005DF1 - pump motor connector damaged

I've had a look around a few other forums, and it's seems to be a VERY common problem with the 07 year, I've seen people say it could vary from

Faulty wheel sensor
Faulty steering angle sensor
Faulty wheel bearing
Battery on the way out (low voltage)
ABS pump

I've had the car just under two months, it's under warranty with 'Warranty first' for another month, so my plan is to book it in with BMW and let them fiddle about.

What is the most likely scenario? A nackered sensor? or the worst case, the pump?

tmarshall57 · 07-07-2015, 05:40 PM

For those codes it is definitely the ABS unit. They are etched in my brain. Send the whole unit to ECU Testing after phoning them or filling out their online form.

Arch Stanton · 07-07-2015, 06:58 PM

funnily enough (well not actually that funny), mine has gone too, in at BMW today as i still have the extended warranty on my 335. They mentioned the cost would have been the unpleasant side of £1500

JackHerring · 07-08-2015, 05:52 AM

Ouch! Mine goes in tomorrow.. Keeping everything crossed that it something minor!

borinous · 07-08-2015, 08:49 AM

A colleague at work just had his done think he paid £240 inc vat for the Unit repair then a couple hours labour to remove and fit. prob under £400 all in

Soul_Glo · 07-09-2015, 01:00 AM

What mileage do these tend to fail at? Don't know why my indie was against the idea of ecutesting too when we needed a new mechatronic for my audi.

dy63 · 07-09-2015, 07:04 AM

so ECU testing will repair the 6 cylinders aswell for under £300? I thought it was only the 4cyl for that money

IceMan007 · 07-09-2015, 10:11 AM

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so ECU testing will repair the 6 cylinders aswell for under £300? I thought it was only the 4cyl for that money

Yep, they did mine (335D) 2 months ago.

JackHerring · 07-09-2015, 01:07 PM

Took the car into Bmw today, but as I pulled off, the lights disappeared..decided to take it in anyway because they'll no doubt return.. BMW rang to say the lights have not come back on since they've had it, but the codes are still there, and the pump will need replacing at some point, so it's over the the warranty company to see if they give the go ahead!
Seems to be a very common fault on 07 plates!

01-15-2014, 05:09 AM	#1
-TARBY- Private First Class 11 Rep 183 Posts Drives: 07 330d M Sport Saloon 6 Speed Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Orpington iTrader: (0)	ABS Pump failure - ball park costs? Hi Guys and Gals, Sods law occured this morning.. Car has been faultess as per normal.. Today is MOT day and as I pull off up the road the ABS light comes on (with some other associated ones).. I get to the MOT Garage which happens to be my Local Indie.. They say the ABS pump has gone... Ball park quote £1000... Any thoughts? Being a positive man.. the car sailed through the rest of the MOT... Cheers Tarbs __________________ 2007(07) : e90 - 330d - M Sport - Saloon - 6 Speed
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01-15-2014, 07:58 AM	#2
ELD70 Private First Class 2 Rep 102 Posts Drives: 325d Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: South East iTrader: (0)	http://www.ecutesting.com/bmw_common...FUzHtAodFWsAHg Seem to recall a few posts where people used this company.
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01-15-2014, 02:57 PM	#3
tmarshall57 Captain 56 Rep 623 Posts Drives: F10 530d M Sport, E87 118d M Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bury, Lancs, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW E87 118d M ... [0.00] 2012 BMW F10 530D M ... [0.00] 1997 K1100RS Specia ... [0.00]	On a 6 cylinder engine the full part (mechanical pump and electronic module) costs around £1,800. The mechanical unit (repair kit) is around £900. Send the whole unit to ECU Testing and the cost will be approx £250 including testing, repair and return postage. Do not send to BBA Reman. On a 4 pot the repair kit mentioned above is about £200. __________________ F10 530d M Sport, September 2012 Individual Amazonite Silver, Oyster Dakota Leather, Auto, Nav Pro, Bluetooth + USB Devices, Expanded BMW Online, Comfort Seats, Sunroof, Sun Protection Glass Individual Satin Walnut Honey Brown Trim Interior Inside/Outside Mirror with folding and autodip, M Rear Spoiler
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01-18-2014, 04:22 PM	#4
Roy Keane's dog New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: E92 325d M Sport Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: N Ireland iTrader: (0)	ABS pump refurb Yeah, go to www.ECUtesting.com and fill out the online form with the part number of the unit and they'll let you know if they can repair/refurb it. If they can, remove and send it to them and once they get it they'll turn it around in 3 days with text updates to let you know what's going on (£255). I got mine back last Thurs and mechanic fitted Fri morn and so far so good. Forget BMW. Get yourself a good indie and it'll be all sorted for a fraction of the price. Thoroughly reccomended.
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01-24-2014, 02:44 PM	#5
-TARBY- Private First Class 11 Rep 183 Posts Drives: 07 330d M Sport Saloon 6 Speed Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Orpington iTrader: (0)	Guys - thank you ever so much for this. It has turned out to be an interesting saga. Because I am time bound this is going to be a bit squeaky.. I am certainly not paying the ridculous price that BMW want.. My Indie, who I really do see in a different light after my last two visits, doesnt want to get involved in the whole ECUTesting.com thing.. So i took the car back (MOT doesn't run out till the 28th Feb) and a mate is going to look after the car and get it to his Indie who said he will sort it all in for about £400. Will keep you posted. __________________ 2007(07) : e90 - 330d - M Sport - Saloon - 6 Speed
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01-27-2014, 02:32 PM	#6
-TARBY- Private First Class 11 Rep 183 Posts Drives: 07 330d M Sport Saloon 6 Speed Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Orpington iTrader: (0)	This morning the lights and errors all cleared.... I've done nothing Car going for MOT tomorrow. __________________ 2007(07) : e90 - 330d - M Sport - Saloon - 6 Speed
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01-27-2014, 03:24 PM	#7
tmarshall57 Captain 56 Rep 623 Posts Drives: F10 530d M Sport, E87 118d M Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bury, Lancs, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW E87 118d M ... [0.00] 2012 BMW F10 530D M ... [0.00] 1997 K1100RS Specia ... [0.00]	Lights will return. With any luck after your MOT. __________________ F10 530d M Sport, September 2012 Individual Amazonite Silver, Oyster Dakota Leather, Auto, Nav Pro, Bluetooth + USB Devices, Expanded BMW Online, Comfort Seats, Sunroof, Sun Protection Glass Individual Satin Walnut Honey Brown Trim Interior Inside/Outside Mirror with folding and autodip, M Rear Spoiler
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10-30-2014, 10:40 AM	#8
dy63 Colonel 161 Rep 2,399 Posts Drives: F30 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (1)	what happened after?
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10-30-2014, 10:59 AM	#9
old grey steve Colonel 283 Rep 2,796 Posts Drives: MK 7.5 Golf R Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: UK in Hertfordshire iTrader: (2)	Another ABS issue yep they seem to be going down good and proper, refurb unit wise is the most cost effective way we've got 2 in progress now down side is the cars off the road for a week or so. Steve __________________
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10-30-2014, 02:54 PM	#10
peter2704 Private First Class 14 Rep 107 Posts Drives: bmw e91 320i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: yorks iTrader: (0)	just had mine done ,I run a 4cyl and it was £302 all in .
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07-07-2015, 05:01 PM	#12
JackHerring Private 5 Rep 81 Posts Drives: E92 325i Join Date: May 2015 Location: Stockton Warwickshire iTrader: (0)	Instead of starting a new thread i thought I'd revive this one... So, the abs light came up on the dashboard the other day, with two other lights, the hand break light (in yellow) and can't remember the other one, I used the code reader and the codes that came up where 005DF0 - pump motor faulty 005DF1 - pump motor connector damaged I've had a look around a few other forums, and it's seems to be a VERY common problem with the 07 year, I've seen people say it could vary from Faulty wheel sensor Faulty steering angle sensor Faulty wheel bearing Battery on the way out (low voltage) ABS pump I've had the car just under two months, it's under warranty with 'Warranty first' for another month, so my plan is to book it in with BMW and let them fiddle about. What is the most likely scenario? A nackered sensor? or the worst case, the pump?
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07-07-2015, 05:40 PM	#13
tmarshall57 Captain 56 Rep 623 Posts Drives: F10 530d M Sport, E87 118d M Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bury, Lancs, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW E87 118d M ... [0.00] 2012 BMW F10 530D M ... [0.00] 1997 K1100RS Specia ... [0.00]	For those codes it is definitely the ABS unit. They are etched in my brain. Send the whole unit to ECU Testing after phoning them or filling out their online form.
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07-07-2015, 06:58 PM	#14
Arch Stanton Second Lieutenant 49 Rep 258 Posts Drives: BMW 335i touring Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: the smelly bit of the north iTrader: (0)	funnily enough (well not actually that funny), mine has gone too, in at BMW today as i still have the extended warranty on my 335. They mentioned the cost would have been the unpleasant side of £1500
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07-08-2015, 05:52 AM	#15
JackHerring Private 5 Rep 81 Posts Drives: E92 325i Join Date: May 2015 Location: Stockton Warwickshire iTrader: (0)	Ouch! Mine goes in tomorrow.. Keeping everything crossed that it something minor!
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07-08-2015, 08:49 AM	#16
borinous Captain 38 Rep 686 Posts Drives: E90 320d SE Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Essex iTrader: (2)	A colleague at work just had his done think he paid £240 inc vat for the Unit repair then a couple hours labour to remove and fit. prob under £400 all in Last edited by borinous; 07-08-2015 at 08:55 AM..
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07-09-2015, 01:00 AM	#17
Soul_Glo Major General 13347 Rep 7,484 Posts Drives: G20 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Manhattan, NYC iTrader: (1)	What mileage do these tend to fail at? Don't know why my indie was against the idea of ecutesting too when we needed a new mechatronic for my audi.
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07-09-2015, 07:04 AM	#18
dy63 Colonel 161 Rep 2,399 Posts Drives: F30 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (1)	so ECU testing will repair the 6 cylinders aswell for under £300? I thought it was only the 4cyl for that money
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07-09-2015, 01:07 PM	#20
JackHerring Private 5 Rep 81 Posts Drives: E92 325i Join Date: May 2015 Location: Stockton Warwickshire iTrader: (0)	Took the car into Bmw today, but as I pulled off, the lights disappeared..decided to take it in anyway because they'll no doubt return.. BMW rang to say the lights have not come back on since they've had it, but the codes are still there, and the pump will need replacing at some point, so it's over the the warranty company to see if they give the go ahead! Seems to be a very common fault on 07 plates!
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