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      04-19-2013, 10:49 PM   #1
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Good deal?

I am looking to lease a 335 xDrive with the following options:

Msport
Premium package
BMW Assist
BMW Apps
M sport brakes
M adaptive suspension

with 18" A/S Wheels would be $815 tax in per month
with 19" summer wheels would be 836 tax in per month
over a 48 month lease.

This works out to be about a 7% off of MSRP. I am thinking to opt for the 19" wheel setup. The car right now has the 18" installed, but the dealer is willing to swap out the 18 with another car's 19"(403M) wheel. They will charge me $500 for the wheels and $250 for the labour to do the swap.

Is it true that because the car originally came out of the factory with the 18" all season tire that the speed limit increase is not included, and its capped at 130 instead of 155?
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HighSpeed max is standard in the Msport package as per the BMW product guides.

Great deal! .... recommend your rep
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      04-20-2013, 08:44 AM   #3
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I am looking to lease a 335 xDrive with the following options:

Msport
Premium package
BMW Assist
BMW Apps
M sport brakes
M adaptive suspension

with 18" A/S Wheels would be $815 tax in per month
with 19" summer wheels would be 836 tax in per month
over a 48 month lease.

This works out to be about a 7% off of MSRP. I am thinking to opt for the 19" wheel setup. The car right now has the 18" installed, but the dealer is willing to swap out the 18 with another car's 19"(403M) wheel. They will charge me $500 for the wheels and $250 for the labour to do the swap.

Is it true that because the car originally came out of the factory with the 18" all season tire that the speed limit increase is not included, and its capped at 130 instead of 155?
Can't comment on it being a good deal or not if we do not have the full financial info, such as km/year & residual value/percentage, final negotiated price, down payment (cap reduction) & initial payment w/ associated fees.

Are you a repeat BMWFS customer? Is your car part of a Fleet arrangement (car allowance or corp purchase), etc.
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      04-20-2013, 10:23 AM   #4
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Can't comment on it being a good deal or not if we do not have the full financial info, such as km/year & residual value/percentage, final negotiated price, down payment (cap reduction) & initial payment w/ associated fees.

Are you a repeat BMWFS customer? Is your car part of a Fleet arrangement (car allowance or corp purchase), etc.
The lease terms are:
48 months, 2.9% rate with a 47% residual.
the MSRP was $63,749 and the final negotiated price was 7%, so around 59,289. Zero down payment.
The upfront payments are the usual suspects, 1st month payment and security deposit. Freight/PDI, Admin fee, tires.
The only fee's i don't like are the $504 listed as other dealer options, which I assume is the Nitrogen fee's and fuel as $95.

I did have a lease with BMW before, but not with this dealer or SA, and it is not part of a fleet arrangement.
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      04-20-2013, 11:57 AM   #5
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correction - 840 High speed maximum with perf. tires is on the 335i but not 335xi
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you only get high speed maximum with summer tires
i don't think its a good deal IMO

my cars spec:
AW 335xi
msport
preimum
m adaptive
19"m wheels
variable sport steering
sport brakes
im paying around the$800 mark...tax included 0 down
20,000/year
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I am looking to lease a 335 xDrive with the following options:

Msport
Premium package
BMW Assist
BMW Apps
M sport brakes
M adaptive suspension

with 18" A/S Wheels would be $815 tax in per month
with 19" summer wheels would be 836 tax in per month
over a 48 month lease.

This works out to be about a 7% off of MSRP. I am thinking to opt for the 19" wheel setup. The car right now has the 18" installed, but the dealer is willing to swap out the 18 with another car's 19"(403M) wheel. They will charge me $500 for the wheels and $250 for the labour to do the swap.

Is it true that because the car originally came out of the factory with the 18" all season tire that the speed limit increase is not included, and its capped at 130 instead of 155?
and there are noway the 19" wheels are adding $20 to ur payment....it should be a 5 bucks different lol pm me if ur interested ill send u to my sales. But hes on vacation now, he will be back on may 2...let me know
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      04-21-2013, 12:05 AM   #8
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Your payment will depend on which province you are in. Keep that in mind...
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I think the most important is how the service from the sales person ,go through the details, test drive , showing the vehicle in detail and for sure how much off ! Since u have 7% off , not too bad , no matter how much off , someone will have a better deal than u , cause the cost to each dealer is the same,and no dealer will sold a car below cost, unless they need to cleanout the old stockers (ex. u buying a 2012 vehicle in 2013 )or a demo. As long as u happy with the price ,then is ok ! The sales also need to earn a living too.

I think you got a fair deal as long as the sales person followup the whole process with manner. By the way, good choice!!!
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      04-21-2013, 09:55 AM   #10
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I think the most important is how the service from the sales person ,go through the details, test drive , showing the vehicle in detail and for sure how much off ! Since u have 7% off , not too bad , no matter how much off , someone will have a better deal than u , cause the cost to each dealer is the same,and no dealer will sold a car below cost, unless they need to cleanout the old stockers (ex. u buying a 2012 vehicle in 2013 )or a demo. As long as u happy with the price ,then is ok ! The sales also need to earn a living too.

I think you got a fair deal as long as the sales person followup the whole process with manner. By the way, good choice!!!
Yeah, in the end, I think its a decent deal, and like you said the numbers are fairly close to each other, that it'll come down to the comfort level of the sales rep and dealer. I was comfortable with this SA, as he is not overly aggressive in his sales tactics. I've dealt with couple other SA's over this process, and what turned me off them was their over aggressiveness in pushing to make an offer/sale.

So I ended up pulling the trigger on the 2013 EBII 335 xDrive with the following packages:
MSport
Premium
M-Brakes
M Adaptive Suspension
19" perf tires/wheels
BMW assist
BMW apps

The final price I got was $4700 off MSRP or roughly 7.3% off.
the monthly lease payment worked out to be $819/mth tax included over 48 months.

I will be picking up the car in 2 weeks, now its time to start shopping for mods and accessories. lol

It'll be interesting to see how different(better or worse) the F30 is compared to my old car. I had a 2009 335i in Le Mans Blue. The F30 will be missing some power for sure, as I had the JB4 on the E90.
My sister took the buyback option and has my old E90, so I'll still have access to it for some direct comparisons.

BTW - what did people do with their tints? Right now I am thinking having a 35% tint up front, and 20% in the back. Would it look 'cleaner' if the tints were all the same? I had 35% all around in the E90, and thought it was a little light.
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      04-21-2013, 10:01 AM   #11
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you only get high speed maximum with summer tires
i don't think its a good deal IMO

my cars spec:
AW 335xi
msport
preimum
m adaptive
19"m wheels
variable sport steering
sport brakes
im paying around the$800 mark...tax included 0 down
20,000/year
This car also has the BMW Assist and BMW Apps and metallic paint surcharge, but missing the variable sport steering, so about another 1600 in options. But you got a really great deal, especially if you bought it earlier in the year without the 2.9% lease rate.

I really wanted the BMW Assist option, I had it on my last e90, and just the Google Maps feature pays for itself over time. It just makes the car that much more 'smarter'.
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      04-21-2013, 10:21 AM   #12
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Yeah, in the end, I think its a decent deal, and like you said the numbers are fairly close to each other, that it'll come down to the comfort level of the sales rep and dealer. I was comfortable with this SA, as he is not overly aggressive in his sales tactics. I've dealt with couple other SA's over this process, and what turned me off them was their over aggressiveness in pushing to make an offer/sale.

So I ended up pulling the trigger on the 2013 EBII 335 xDrive with the following packages:
MSport
Premium
M-Brakes
M Adaptive Suspension
19" perf tires/wheels
BMW assist
BMW apps

The final price I got was $4700 off MSRP or roughly 7.3% off.
the monthly lease payment worked out to be $819/mth tax included over 48 months.

I will be picking up the car in 2 weeks, now its time to start shopping for mods and accessories. lol

It'll be interesting to see how different(better or worse) the F30 is compared to my old car. I had a 2009 335i in Le Mans Blue. The F30 will be missing some power for sure, as I had the JB4 on the E90.
My sister took the buyback option and has my old E90, so I'll still have access to it for some direct comparisons.

BTW - what did people do with their tints? Right now I am thinking having a 35% tint up front, and 20% in the back. Would it look 'cleaner' if the tints were all the same? I had 35% all around in the E90, and thought it was a little light.
congrad what color you get?
35% tint is legal on front! I think all round the same look better. all depend on your color.

btw, how do u like jb in ur E90? will u recommend on F30 335I xdrive? cause I never try Jb .
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      04-21-2013, 10:47 AM   #13
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congrad what color you get?
35% tint is legal on front! I think all round the same look better. all depend on your color.

btw, how do u like jb in ur E90? will u recommend on F30 335I xdrive? cause I never try Jb .
I got it in Estoril Blue with the black interior. I know, another blue. lol..I really like those blue BMW's, different from all the white's and grey's.

For this new lease, I really wanted to make myself like the S4, and was leaning towards the S4. For no other reason than it'll be more of a change from the 2009 E90. The S4 is really a beautiful car and super fast, no doubt about it, awesome car. But I just couldn't get the good customer service from them. I dealt with 2 SA's and neither one was willing to negotiate any discounts and they didn't follow up when they said they would. They just gave me a vibe that they don't really need my business. So its back to the BMW world for another 4 years.

The JB4 was awesome in the E90, I got it after 1 year of owning the car. While the 335i was fast already, with the JB4, it just provides that extra kick. I also had the BMW performance exhaust and Dual cone intake installed on the E90, so the car sounded amazing as well.

I'll probably wait a year on the F30 before getting the JB4, I think its only the stage 1 that is available on the F30 anyways. I'll wait till the stage 2 plug and play is out and all the bugs have been ironed out.
But I do suggest looking into the JB4 or similar chip when they are available for the F30. My experience with them has been trouble free, and the installation was effortless(less than 30 mins). I leave it on map '0' when I take the car to the dealer for servicing, and they don't bat an eye. I only take it out, if I am going in for warranty related work or ECU servicing.
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      04-24-2013, 11:13 AM   #14
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Can you guys tell me where you got your deals and who you dealt with. I'm in Ottawa and my current SA is quoting me roughly $780 for a 328xi (Executive and Premium package, ehanced bluetooth). 48 mth lease, 24k, zero down. Obviously not even close to the deal you guys got. I don't mind going to Toronto as I have done that before.
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Can you guys tell me where you got your deals and who you dealt with. I'm in Ottawa and my current SA is quoting me roughly $780 for a 328xi (Executive and Premium package, ehanced bluetooth). 48 mth lease, 24k, zero down. Obviously not even close to the deal you guys got. I don't mind going to Toronto as I have done that before.
Speak with Mayur Goswami at Town+Country in Markham. Not only does he provide great deals, he also knows his products.

He has been the most helpful sales person I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with.
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Can you guys tell me where you got your deals and who you dealt with. I'm in Ottawa and my current SA is quoting me roughly $780 for a 328xi (Executive and Premium package, ehanced bluetooth). 48 mth lease, 24k, zero down. Obviously not even close to the deal you guys got. I don't mind going to Toronto as I have done that before.
At that price it should be close to loaded... they can do a little better but it's not that bad.
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commie, which dealership and SA?
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commie, which dealership and SA?
It was at BMW Toronto. I am picking up the car this Sat., lets see how it goes.

Don't you have a F30 already?

Just my luck...I committed to the F30, then Audi lowered their lease rate on the S4 in May. I guess Audi and BMW are really going head to head this year.
The rates on the S4 was lowered to 2.9% for 48 months in May.

That probably would've made it a more difficult decision. The monthly lease payment would be in the same neighborhood, and the S4 has the LSD, plus the B&O sound.
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that's interesting on the S4 rate.

Would you know any factory cash rebate incentive for May ? I was just thinking of looking into a 2014 S4 as a winter car, if there is a good deal going on for the 2013, then I may consider this instead and save a few bucks.

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It was at BMW Toronto. I am picking up the car this Sat., lets see how it goes.

Don't you have a F30 already?

Just my luck...I committed to the F30, then Audi lowered their lease rate on the S4 in May. I guess Audi and BMW are really going head to head this year.
The rates on the S4 was lowered to 2.9% for 48 months in May.

That probably would've made it a more difficult decision. The monthly lease payment would be in the same neighborhood, and the S4 has the LSD, plus the B&O sound.
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that's interesting on the S4 rate.

Would you know any factory cash rebate incentive for May ? I was just thinking of looking into a 2014 S4 as a winter car, if there is a good deal going on for the 2013, then I may consider this instead and save a few bucks.

thanks
According to CarCostCanada, there is a 600 dollar loyalty rebate, plus an additional .25% lease off if you had been an Audi customer in the last 12 months for the month of May.


The best deal would be the IS350, the lease rate is 1.3% with $3000 factory rebate. Guess they are trying hard to clear their remaining 13 models.
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