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      03-28-2012, 07:09 PM   #1
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Just installed VRSF Downpipes and now black smoke at WOT :(

I just installed my new downpipes and now when I WOT black smoke pours out. No smoke at idle or regular acceleration only at WOT. So my question is what did I screw up this time
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      03-28-2012, 07:12 PM   #2
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I think that's normal. Either unburnt fuel or something else IIRC
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      03-28-2012, 07:16 PM   #3
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I think that's normal. Either unburnt fuel or something else IIRC
Um... don't think it's normal at all. Did You make sure all your connections are tight? There isn't really much you can mess up with a dp install besides that...
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      03-28-2012, 07:21 PM   #4
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i got black smoke even with all the cats at wot. i think/hope its just because I'm running rich 12-12.5 at wot.
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Um... don't think it's normal at all. Did You make sure all your connections are tight? There isn't really much you can mess up with a dp install besides that...
Everything seems tight.... but it being loose would cause black smoke under WOT?
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      03-28-2012, 07:24 PM   #6
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Less cats mean less filtration. I'd say you're burning oil.
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      03-28-2012, 07:27 PM   #7
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Oil would be a blueish smoke. Black is a rich mixture of fuel.
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I also forgot to mention I have had two misfires while WOT with this current set of spark plugs I have in...... I just haven't got around to replacing them think this could be part of the issue?
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I also forgot to mention I have had two misfires while WOT with this current set of spark plugs I have in...... I just haven't got around to replacing them think this could be part of the issue?

Yes. Black smoke is usually unburned fuel. No spark/misfire = unburned fuel in the exhaust.
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Yes. Black smoke is usually unburned fuel. No spark/misfire = unburned fuel in the exhaust.
Even though, I didn't misfire during the runs with smoke?
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      03-28-2012, 08:32 PM   #11
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What tune are you running.
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      03-28-2012, 09:52 PM   #12
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What tune are you running.
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Procede V5 Rev 2.5..... time to learn how to do that lol
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Black is fuel, blue is oil, rainbow is skittles. In other words you're running rich, check your AFR and fuel trims.
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Black is fuel, blue is oil, rainbow is skittles. In other words you're running rich, check your AFR and fuel trims.
Thanks im going to give that a shot tomorrow
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You're either running really rich or your turbos are blown. From the color of the smoke, it sounds like you're running rich
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