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      08-19-2011, 08:44 AM   #1
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Cobb on Monday and AMS FMIC the following week

I guess you can file this under "good for you - who cares!", but finally getting a Cobb tuner on Monday and an AMS FMIC on Sept 1. I know the Cobb doesn't have a map to take direct advantage of the FMIC, but hopefully it will make the tune "more consistent".

Anyone else running this combo without any other mods?
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      08-19-2011, 08:51 AM   #2
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I guess you can file this under "good for you - who cares!", but finally getting a Cobb tuner on Monday and an AMS FMIC on Sept 1. I know the Cobb doesn't have a map to take direct advantage of the FMIC, but hopefully it will make the tune "more consistent".

Anyone else running this combo without any other mods?
Most people running tunes have an upgraded FMIC but people are running CObb on stock too without any problems.

Cobb is planning on coming out with a map for people with just the FMIC; Stage 1+, but that's after stage 2 so will have to wait for a while.
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And what is stage2 is gonna be exactly fmic+downpipes or fmic +intake?
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I guess you can file this under "good for you - who cares!"
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COBB targets load but you will feel power gains from a FMIC.
I had a surpising power bump after I installed FMIC + DCI with Stage 1 93 Octane.

If you're planning to do the FMIC install yourself, then don't believe the < 1 hour claims that some make.
I recently installed the ETS 5" FMIC myself without a lift, and it takes 2-3 times longer than most estimates that usually assume you have access to a lift.
I will be faster if needed next time, but probably not under 1 hour.

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And what is stage2 is gonna be exactly fmic+downpipes or fmic +intake?
Intake+Fmic and turbo back exhaust I think.
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      08-20-2011, 01:28 PM   #7
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I installed my AMS FMIC with rhyno ramps, it took about 4-5 hours including a trip to Lowe's to buy a dremel tool and drop light.

I used AMS FMIC with Cobb for a few weeks, worked like a charm. I also had the Synapse BOV with charge pipe (kit) and a "stage 1" MS intake. I have since added 3" catless AR DP's with ceramic coating and it still works great. Just waiting for stage 2...
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If you're planning to do the FMIC install yourself, then don't believe the < 1 hour claims that some make.
I recently installed the ETS 5" FMIC myself without a lift, and it takes 2-3 times longer than most estimates that usually assume you have access to a lift.
I will be faster if needed next time, but probably not under 1 hour.
I live about 20 minutes from AMS so I am going to have them install. It'll save me the hassle and the extra cost isn't too bad.
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You ever get the AMS FMIC installed? Ive been thinking about it as well.
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You ever get the AMS FMIC installed? Ive been thinking about it as well.
Have you guys thought about Ind for your FMIC installation? Great mechanics and they will save you some money!
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You ever get the AMS FMIC installed? Ive been thinking about it as well.
I did get it installed. Works well with the Cobb; even better if they come out with a FMIC tune

If you decide to have them install, ask for Larry. He will get you setup.
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Thanks for the lead...you log anything yet? Mind sharing install cost?

What color ride you have?....Im in Geneva daily and have only seen a space gray E90 on a consistent basis.
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Thanks for the lead...you log anything yet? Mind sharing install cost?

What color ride you have?....Im in Geneva daily and have only seen a space gray E90 on a consistent basis.
I'd have to look back at the invoice, but I think install was $150?

I have a Space Grey e92. Not in the area much during the week, but always driving on the weekends.
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Cobb just released the Stage 2 BETA Maps that will take advantage of an upgraded FMIC, downpipes (catted or catless), DCI/Filter, Catback exhaust (recommended, not required)!!

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COBB Tuning is proud to announce the long awaited BETA release of our Stage2 and Stage2+FMIC AccessPORT calibrations for AccessPORT equipped BMW vehicles! These maps take our powerful Stage1 calibrations to the next level and are designed for the enthusiast who has stepped up to more power modifications for the 2007-2010 135i, 335i and 535i as well as the 2011 335is and AWD “xi” models using BMW’s twin-turbo N54 powerplant.

Stage2 and Stage2+FMIC maps take advantage of additional modifications that improve engine breathing efficiency, resulting in large gains in torque and horsepower over Stage1 equipped cars and over 50% gains in peak torque and horsepower over stock!

BETA Maps
Please note that these maps are in a public beta testing phase. These maps have been tested internally on COBB Tuning shop vehicles on in a closed test with customer vehicles. While we are highly confident in the performance of these maps, there may be some instances where they do not perform as expected. Please forward your comments on these Beta Stage2 Maps to bmw.experts@cobbtuning.com

Hardware Requirements
Please see the hardware requirements for these Stage2 and Stage2+FMIC maps below:

Stage2 – Intended for vehicles equipped for the following hardware:
  • Requires upgraded high-flow downpipes (catted or catless are acceptable)
  • Upgraded cat-back exhaust system recommended, but not required
  • Upgraded intake system (DCI, panel filter or otherwise) recommended, but not required

Stage2+FMIC – Intended for vehicles equipped for the following hardware:
  • Requires upgraded front-mount intercooler (FMIC)
  • Requires upgraded downpipes (catted or catless are acceptable)
  • Requires Upgraded intake system (DCI, panel filter or otherwise)
  • Upgraded cat-back exhaust system recommended, but not required

Power Levels
All Stage2 maps are available in three power levels: Drive, Sport and Aggressive. A detailed description of each calibration is available on the COBB Tuning map download page including fuel and hardware requirements.
  • Drive: The “Drive” calibration is made for the BMW enthusiast that is looking for just a little more power from their turbocharged BMW. These maps are ideal for spirited driving on your favorite back road or just a little more get-up-and-go around town. These calibrations retain the stock rev-limiter and also feature enhanced throttle smoothing for a more linear pedal feel and power-delivery. For use with all premium pump fuels including ACN91. This calibration is equivalent to our old “ACN91” mapping.
  • Sport: The “Sport” calibration for your BMW AccessPORT is perfect for the demanding driver looking for that extra edge.These calibrations feature more boost pressure, a raised rev-limiter and removed top-speed limiters. Perfect for high-speed performance driving, but made specifically for all available premium fuels including ACN91. The Sport maps are great around the autocross course or even for light duty at the racetrack. This calibration is equivalent to our old “91 Oct” mapping.
  • Aggressive: The “Aggressive” calibration is made for the ultimate in plug and play performance for the driver looking for the most from their car. With greatly increased boost pressure and no limiters to inhibit performance, these maps are made for the driver who wants the most that their BMW can deliver. These calibrations are designed for ultimate performance and it is highly recommended that 93 or greater octane is used.This calibration is equivalent to our old “93 Oct” mapping.

Throttle Mapping
Beta Stage2 throttle mapping is currently set to Linear. Additional throttle calibrations will be released based on user testing and feedback.

Installation
These Beta Stage2 calibrations are available for download in the BMW AccessPORT Map Database. Follow these steps to install a Stage2 map on your car:
  1. Download the appropriate maps for your modifications to your computer. If you do not have Stage2 modifications made to your car, you will not benefit from installing a Stage2 map and will likely encounter detonation.
  2. Plug the AccessPORT into your computer via USB cable
  3. Transfer the Beta Stage2 maps you downloaded from your computer to your AccessPORT using the AccessPORT Manager utility. (can be downloaded at http://cobbtuning.com/support)
  4. Plug the AccessPORT into the OBDII port of your BMW.
  5. Navigate to “Tune” and follow the on-screen instructions for “Change Map”

These are map updates only. There is no need to update your firmware beyond 1.6.5.0-2639. There is no need to uninstall the AccessPORT and reinstall it to change maps.
For more detailed information on maps and revisions, please consult the BMW Stage2 Map Notes or call COBB Tuning at 866-922-3059.
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Too bad I don't have all the required mods.
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