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      08-12-2011, 12:31 PM   #1
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99988 miles FBO...need new turbos

well, I almost made it, but one of my turbos is shot, this is my daily driver so I need to get it fixed asap, is there another quick option besides stock
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      08-12-2011, 12:33 PM   #2
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Night as well go with RBs while you're at it.
Agreed, though there is a wait list. Do you have to drive on the hwy? Can you drive city speeds for a little while?
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did you ever have ur stock turbos replaced or are they the originals?
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^ interested in both answers from the 2 posts above. Looking good! Hope you can get them replaced soon. Looks like stock will be the way for you since you're time-constrained and there's a wait list for RB turbos.
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modded since 72000 FBO at 80K and as far as i know they are the original turbos, Im the second owner and it was a female who drove nearly 300 miles a day with maintenance plan, and no turbos on record...Im pretty sure just going with stock, may keep my cores to send off to be built, but I think I will get a 535 next year so the built turbos may end up on it
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I ordered RB turbos the end of April and delivery seems to still be weeks away.
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I went through the same situation. I kept emailing and pm'ing Rob and basically got the same standard cut/ paste reply twice. "it should take around 8 weeks and here are the prices" but the sad part was i had no way to pay or no way to get on the wait list and basically all my other emails went un-answered. Got tired of that.

I ended up buying stock oem units as my car is my daily and i need her running.

Basic costs:
-OEM units ($1300 Tisher)
-Supplys. gaskets, bolts etc ($200 Tisher)
-Install. ($1400 local shop)
Total roughly $3000

Now it's going to cost me more but I ended up getting ASR units.
-ASR Turbo's $5k+
-Install again $1400
Total $6500

So around $9k for me but thats because i wanted upgraded turbo's.

I'm probably going to be selling my oem units once my new ones come in and they have less than 1000miles on them. These are the new units with the updated actuators etc from Tisher. They are approx 3 weeks old.

If you do go OEM, a word of advice. If you go to an after market shop, make sure they know that the wastegates need to be calibrated BEFORE they get installed. I believe you need to plug into a vacuum pump, apply certain amount of pressure etc to verify the wastegates don't rattle. If you go to a dealer, they 'should' know this.

BTW, i'm in Canada and up here the dealer wanted $6000 to do the job. I'm close to the USA border so figured i'd ask Seattle BMW and they wanted $5000 to do the complete job. Dealers estimate 16hours to re & re the turbo's.
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modded since 72000 FBO at 80K and as far as i know they are the original turbos, Im the second owner and it was a female who drove nearly 300 miles a day with maintenance plan, and no turbos on record...Im pretty sure just going with stock, may keep my cores to send off to be built, but I think I will get a 535 next year so the built turbos may end up on it
Sorry to hear about that, but the stock '07 snails aren't going to survive the JB4 flogging for long. That's why I made sure I got myself a spare set of working turbos before even putting on my mild tune. 85K miles so far, and no issues, knock on wood. Good luck to you.
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I went through the same situation. I kept emailing and pm'ing Rob and basically got the same standard cut/ paste reply twice. "it should take around 8 weeks and here are the prices" but the sad part was i had no way to pay or no way to get on the wait list and basically all my other emails went un-answered. Got tired of that.

I ended up buying stock oem units as my car is my daily and i need her running.

Basic costs:
-OEM units ($1300 Tisher)
-Supplys. gaskets, bolts etc ($200 Tisher)
-Install. ($1400 local shop)
Total roughly $3000

Now it's going to cost me more but I ended up getting ASR units.
-ASR Turbo's $5k+
-Install again $1400
Total $6500

So around $9k for me but thats because i wanted upgraded turbo's.

I'm probably going to be selling my oem units once my new ones come in and they have less than 1000miles on them. These are the new units with the updated actuators etc from Tisher. They are approx 3 weeks old.

If you do go OEM, a word of advice. If you go to an after market shop, make sure they know that the wastegates need to be calibrated BEFORE they get installed. I believe you need to plug into a vacuum pump, apply certain amount of pressure etc to verify the wastegates don't rattle. If you go to a dealer, they 'should' know this.

BTW, i'm in Canada and up here the dealer wanted $6000 to do the job. I'm close to the USA border so figured i'd ask Seattle BMW and they wanted $5000 to do the complete job. Dealers estimate 16hours to re & re the turbo's.
Jesus!........
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I went through the same situation.
I'm ok with the wait on the RB's, just wanted to let the OP know that if they need a quick set, stock is the way to go.
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Are the RB's worth it? I mean I thought there were others that were just as good but no wait?
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Are the RB's worth it? I mean I thought there were others that were just as good but no wait?
The 3 that are upgrades to both wheels are RB, ASR, TD Stage 2. I think the only ones with the internal waste gate assembly (not the actuator arm) upgraded are the RBs.
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Are the RB's worth it? I mean I thought there were others that were just as good but no wait?
From what I hear the RB's are $1,800 with core exchange vs $5,000 for the ASR's.....that may be the reason for the long wait....
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what evidence are you going by that u believe that a turbo is shot, not that i dont believe you, but for my future information as im getting high on mileage myself and would like to know the signs or whatever. thanks
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what evidence are you going by that u believe that a turbo is shot, not that i dont believe you, but for my future information as im getting high on mileage myself and would like to know the signs or whatever. thanks
the actuator feels like it is tied on with a piece of fishing line, wastegate rattle is one thing, but it sounds like there is a bag of aluminum cans stuck under my car, funny thing is it still pulls decent, its been on its way out for 3 months, that is when i noticed it getting a little slower...bmw kept saying it was normal noise for my mods...you would think they would want to sell me turbos...luckily I know the foreman and open his own shop aug 1st, we looked at it today thinking we could tighten them but its curtains, plus i am smoking like the graffix bong i had in high school
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From what I hear the RB's are $1,800 with core exchange vs $5,000 for the ASR's.....that may be the reason for the long wait....
ahhh.. hey man, can you share some of that stuff you're smoking? I could use some. a little bit of mis-information

$2999 RB Turbo upgrade/New and installed actuators
$300 core charge for LHD 335I ($200 refund if old cores sent back)
$100 fee if paid by credit card or paypal (fee is waived if paid by Personal/Cashiers check or Bank wire)
$70 shipping

Thanks,
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the actuator feels like it is tied on with a piece of fishing line, wastegate rattle is one thing, but it sounds like there is a bag of aluminum cans stuck under my car, funny thing is it still pulls decent, its been on its way out for 3 months, that is when i noticed it getting a little slower...bmw kept saying it was normal noise for my mods...you would think they would want to sell me turbos...luckily I know the foreman and open his own shop aug 1st, we looked at it today thinking we could tighten them but its curtains, plus i am smoking like the graffix bong i had in high school
Like i said, my car had the same issues and i'm just around 90000km's and been tuned since 800km on the odo! Car pulls great but 1 side started smoking, a little on decelration, stopped at a light etc. Had the turbo's replaced and the fronts had oil leaks in the turbo seals. The turbine was coated in oil. The rear turbo was completely dry.

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Jesus!........
tell me about it!
And the only good/ bad thing about this whole thing, the wife has no idea cuz if she did....
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If mine go i will probably head down to Helix. $3200 installed for a set of their turbos last I checked. Upgraded turbos for the price of new oem's installed. Can't beat that!
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Like i said, my car had the same issues and i'm just around 90k's and been tuned since 800k on the odo! Car pulls great but 1 side started smoking, a little on decelration, stopped at a light etc. Had the turbo's replaced and the fronts had oil leaks in the turbo seals. The turbine was coated in oil. The rear turbo was completely dry.
yupp, same here to the tee
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