Intercooler or Downpipes??

Randomaccess335 · 04-12-2011, 10:29 PM

I'm about to buy either an intercooler or downpipes, the question is...Which one should i get first? O' yea i live is sunny hot as hell south florida.
i'm thinking the intercooler first cause of the FL heat, but was told i would get more horsies from downpipes.
All opinions welcome,
Thanks

one more question, my car doesn't have a oil cooler so does it make sense to buy the cp-e intercooler that comes with an oil cooler attatched to it.

Thanks again

hipnotic · 04-12-2011, 11:12 PM

dp for sure. more hp gain and louder

SeanS54 · 04-12-2011, 11:23 PM

I vote intercooler since you're in FL... I've seen dynos w/ upgraded intercoolers giving about 20 hp just like dps.... or just get both..

Randomaccess335I · 04-12-2011, 11:25 PM

Forgot to mention I have a JB4 and DCI's

UFhypz335 · 04-12-2011, 11:43 PM

It's so hot in Florida right now I was debating the same thing!!! Def get the IC w/ oil cooler though if you do decide on the IC over DP's.

marv85 · 04-12-2011, 11:49 PM

keep in mind that the oil cooler that comes with CP-e is made for cars that already have an oil cooler.

dlbrooks18 · 04-12-2011, 11:59 PM

dp's gets my vote

Zasquatch · 04-13-2011, 06:29 AM

Do a search. This has been covered many times.

smack · 04-22-2011, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marv85

keep in mind that the oil cooler that comes with CP-e is made for cars that already have an oil cooler.

With the CP-e unit, do you run both oil coolers or do your lose the factory unit and just use the CP-e intercooler/oil cooler combo?

wren57 · 04-22-2011, 03:42 PM

I've been on this site for less than a year and have seen this topic dozens of times. Please search in the future.

I'd vote for IC due to your living in FL, but its up to you really. Here is your choice:

IC - cooler/healthier engine, moderate power increase
DP - hotter/sicker engine, large power increase

wtfmateim65 · 04-22-2011, 04:40 PM

I got downpipes and an intercooler for around $600

Now i feel like they need to go hand in hand ( got the downpipes first, IC 3 weeks later). With DPs there is more heat since you are pushing more power and boost. IC helps keep the IATs from the radiant heat down so they complement each other. Its all about having the right balance of mods, so don't just settle for one thing and stop! but I'm sure you'll keep going haha

deltalima0 · 04-22-2011, 09:39 PM

I just recently added a CP-e FMIC and AR catless downpipes and my temps went noticeably down 20-40 degrees on average depending on how hard I am driving regular drive 40 degrees hard driving easily 20 plus degrees.

I have an 07 without an oil cooler so i could not use the oil cooler add on so this is all on a car with no oil cooler. Also selling the oil cooler add-on that i have still.

woodga16 · 05-19-2011, 09:47 PM

dps and meth kit

mikeith · 05-19-2011, 11:11 PM

if you are concerned with warranty i would go with intercooler... i spoke directly with a bmw rep and they said in cases where you live in "excessively hot" climates they wont haggle you on warranty claims for having an intercooler as long as you have stated with them that you have it installed as a "cooling" benefit and not a "hp increase benefit"

zeenon53 · 05-20-2011, 10:10 AM

I would get the IC first. An IC should be one of the first mods to these cars after a tune.

Randomaccess335 · 05-20-2011, 10:18 AM

I asked this question @ month ago, I found used set of dp's and waiting on ets ic now. I'm installing both in June- B-day present to me!!
Looking into bov or dv's now.
Think I'm gonna go with AWE TUNING BLOW OFF / DIVERTER VALVE

MDORPHN · 05-20-2011, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeith

if you are concerned with warranty i would go with intercooler... i spoke directly with a bmw rep and they said in cases where you live in "excessively hot" climates they wont haggle you on warranty claims for having an intercooler as long as you have stated with them that you have it installed as a "cooling" benefit and not a "hp increase benefit"

Hmmm, wonder if they'd take they same position with regard to meth injection.

Neil

TurboSid · 05-20-2011, 10:54 AM

DP's and im from florida, u'll be fine with the stock intercooler.

CarbonDuc27 · 05-20-2011, 09:18 PM

I guess I am missing something. Why do downpipes equal more heat?

I would think less backpressure let's the turbo breath better.

tibra1 · 05-20-2011, 09:36 PM

Intercooler no question..DPs w stock intercooler w prolly cause heat soak

plague · 05-21-2011, 12:08 AM

i just got both on yesterday. Im gonna have to say FMIC. its awesome how the car still feels totally solid in heat and humidity. wow. totally worth it. then get dp's. oh and get them ceramic coated. these cars run so hot, keep all the heat out of the engine bay that you can

Hazard83190 · 05-21-2011, 12:16 AM

If it's hot in Florida right now the dps wouldn't be a good first choice. They will increase your power output, thus, increasing the heat your engine gives off.. So without the intercooler it might not be such a good idea. I'd say get both!

04-12-2011, 10:29 PM	#1
Randomaccess335 Captain 69 Rep 868 Posts Drives: 07' 335I Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: boynton beach, Fl iTrader: (11)	Intercooler or Downpipes?? I'm about to buy either an intercooler or downpipes, the question is...Which one should i get first? O' yea i live is sunny hot as hell south florida. i'm thinking the intercooler first cause of the FL heat, but was told i would get more horsies from downpipes. All opinions welcome, Thanks one more question, my car doesn't have a oil cooler so does it make sense to buy the cp-e intercooler that comes with an oil cooler attatched to it. Thanks again
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04-12-2011, 11:12 PM	#2
hipnotic Major General 149 Rep 6,604 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: So. Cal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2008 335i coupe [7.00]	dp for sure. more hp gain and louder __________________
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04-12-2011, 11:23 PM	#3
SeanS54 Captain 168 Rep 842 Posts Drives: F82 M4 ZCP Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (20)	I vote intercooler since you're in FL... I've seen dynos w/ upgraded intercoolers giving about 20 hp just like dps.... or just get both.. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/SeanS54/videos
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04-12-2011, 11:25 PM	#4
Randomaccess335I New Member 2 Rep 9 Posts Drives: BMW 335I Coupe Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: boynton beach, Fl iTrader: (0)	Forgot to mention I have a JB4 and DCI's
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04-12-2011, 11:43 PM	#5
UFhypz335 allocation hunting g80/911 GTS 34 Rep 404 Posts Drives: '20 M2 /'08 E92 335i 6MT(sold) Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NYC iTrader: (1)	It's so hot in Florida right now I was debating the same thing!!! Def get the IC w/ oil cooler though if you do decide on the IC over DP's. __________________ Searching for a G80 M3 allocation/911 GTS allocation Current: '20 M2 Competition (Hockenheim Silver) - Carless from 2017-2022 Previous: '08 E92 335i 6MT (Space Grey), '05 G35 Coupe, '03 Evolution VIII, '01 Honda Prelude
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04-12-2011, 11:49 PM	#6
marv85 Colonel 70 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '07 E92 335i MT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (7)	keep in mind that the oil cooler that comes with CP-e is made for cars that already have an oil cooler. __________________ '07 E92 335i 6MT- HP650, inlets/outlets, ER FMIC, VRSF CP, LPFP stg2, CSF rad, 'is Aux rad, ER OC, Ohlins, M control arms, eibach front sway bar. '05 C55 AMG SOLD - '22 Tesla M3P \| '10 E92 335i M, 6MT COBB, FBO, st2 LPFP, Mfactory LSD \| '07 E90 335i, PTF COBB E50, FBO, HFS4
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04-12-2011, 11:59 PM	#7
dlbrooks18 Brigadier General 161 Rep 3,736 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (2)	dp's gets my vote __________________ 2008 E90 335
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04-13-2011, 06:29 AM	#8
Zasquatch Captain 36 Rep 708 Posts Drives: '07 BMW 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (15) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	Do a search. This has been covered many times.
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04-22-2011, 03:42 PM	#10
wren57 Roll Tide 591 Rep 2,345 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St Louis iTrader: (10)	I've been on this site for less than a year and have seen this topic dozens of times. Please search in the future. I'd vote for IC due to your living in FL, but its up to you really. Here is your choice: IC - cooler/healthier engine, moderate power increase DP - hotter/sicker engine, large power increase __________________ Fix your broken/stripped cowl bolts with this elegant brass solution! http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20230306
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04-22-2011, 04:40 PM	#11
wtfmateim65 First Lieutenant 17 Rep 305 Posts Drives: AW 92 335i JB4 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vegas iTrader: (2)	I got downpipes and an intercooler for around $600 Now i feel like they need to go hand in hand ( got the downpipes first, IC 3 weeks later). With DPs there is more heat since you are pushing more power and boost. IC helps keep the IATs from the radiant heat down so they complement each other. Its all about having the right balance of mods, so don't just settle for one thing and stop! but I'm sure you'll keep going haha
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04-22-2011, 09:39 PM	#12
deltalima0 Lieutenant 96 Rep 546 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Atlanta GA iTrader: (2)	I just recently added a CP-e FMIC and AR catless downpipes and my temps went noticeably down 20-40 degrees on average depending on how hard I am driving regular drive 40 degrees hard driving easily 20 plus degrees. I have an 07 without an oil cooler so i could not use the oil cooler add on so this is all on a car with no oil cooler. Also selling the oil cooler add-on that i have still.
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05-19-2011, 09:47 PM	#13
woodga16 First Lieutenant 16 Rep 378 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: US iTrader: (0)	dps and meth kit
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05-19-2011, 11:11 PM	#14
mikeith Lieutenant 35 Rep 450 Posts Drives: 07 E90 335i. TiAG Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: lubbock, tx iTrader: (0)	if you are concerned with warranty i would go with intercooler... i spoke directly with a bmw rep and they said in cases where you live in "excessively hot" climates they wont haggle you on warranty claims for having an intercooler as long as you have stated with them that you have it installed as a "cooling" benefit and not a "hp increase benefit"
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05-20-2011, 10:10 AM	#15
zeenon53 Major 39 Rep 1,154 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: obx iTrader: (3)	I would get the IC first. An IC should be one of the first mods to these cars after a tune.
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05-20-2011, 10:18 AM	#16
Randomaccess335 Captain 69 Rep 868 Posts Drives: 07' 335I Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: boynton beach, Fl iTrader: (11)	I asked this question @ month ago, I found used set of dp's and waiting on ets ic now. I'm installing both in June- B-day present to me!! Looking into bov or dv's now. Think I'm gonna go with AWE TUNING BLOW OFF / DIVERTER VALVE __________________ JB4 G5 ISO , AR DP's, DO Meth kit Trunk Mount, ETS 5" Intercooler, M6 Rims, ER Charge Pipe, Fordged DV's, MMp relocated inlets, Ebay 4" chrome Tips, Lux Angel Eyes ********11.910 @ 117.091.851 60'*********
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05-20-2011, 10:54 AM	#18
TurboSid Brigadier General 1111 Rep 3,262 Posts Drives: 2022 M4Cx BSM/FR Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 335i [0.00]	DP's and im from florida, u'll be fine with the stock intercooler. __________________ 2022 BSM/FR M4 Competition X-Drive 2017 MW/SO M4 ZCP [SOLD] • 2015 MW/SO M4 M-DCT FBO [SOLD] • 2011 AW/CR 335is DCT FBO [SOLD] • 2008 AW/CR 335i 6MT FBO [SOLD]
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05-20-2011, 09:18 PM	#19
CarbonDuc27 Private 0 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 07 E90 335i, Duc M750, 05Mada Join Date: May 2011 Location: Stockton CA iTrader: (0)	I guess I am missing something. Why do downpipes equal more heat? I would think less backpressure let's the turbo breath better.
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05-20-2011, 09:36 PM	#20
tibra1 Banned 127 Rep 6,773 Posts Drives: 2011 ZCP M3 - 2007 335i crashd Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (4)	Intercooler no question..DPs w stock intercooler w prolly cause heat soak
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05-21-2011, 12:08 AM	#21
plague Captain 40 Rep 957 Posts Drives: 335i sold :( / jb 20th AE Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (2)	i just got both on yesterday. Im gonna have to say FMIC. its awesome how the car still feels totally solid in heat and humidity. wow. totally worth it. then get dp's. oh and get them ceramic coated. these cars run so hot, keep all the heat out of the engine bay that you can __________________ 07 335i- SOLD, and will be missed... Parts for sale- PWM meth kit, M steering wheel, M shift knob, perforated e brake handle
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05-21-2011, 12:16 AM	#22
Hazard83190 Captain 65 Rep 913 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335XI Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 335XI Coupe [0.00]	If it's hot in Florida right now the dps wouldn't be a good first choice. They will increase your power output, thus, increasing the heat your engine gives off.. So without the intercooler it might not be such a good idea. I'd say get both! __________________ Matthew C. Friedberg
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