HPF N54 big turbo kit being produced or not?

Eugene-TAIWAN · 12-14-2010, 06:08 AM

just wondering if the kit will be released anytime soon

tscdennab · 12-14-2010, 06:17 AM

Not

Penn999 · 12-14-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Eugene-TAIWAN

just wondering if the kit will be released anytime soon

I will give them a call this week and c what's up

Eugene-TAIWAN · 12-14-2010, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Penn999

I will give them a call this week and c what's up

it would be nice to know

Former_Boosted_IS · 12-14-2010, 07:05 AM

While I really do respect HPF, I really think this is vapor ware. They have other projects that clearly are higher priority. If you want to upgrade, there are much more timely options available.

Eugene-TAIWAN · 12-14-2010, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

While I really do respect HPF, I really think this is vapor ware. They have other projects that clearly are higher priority. If you want to upgrade, there are much more timely options available.

thanks, but all the other upgrades has been done already. just want a BT kit now.

Clap135 · 12-14-2010, 08:31 AM

What upgrades? They haven't really done anything yet.

cuban335i · 12-14-2010, 08:35 AM

by the time HPF comes out with a kit, I probably won't be in a bmw or on this forum anymore (2+ years I think), so i've given up on them..

import36 · 12-14-2010, 09:35 AM

looks like AR may have the first BT kit out. isn't ETS working on something as well? those will surely be available before the HPF kit.

dzenno · 12-14-2010, 10:20 AM

Nothing...they'll get on it once they see a business opportunity for it...who's ready to shell out 20-35K for their kit with a car they might be leasing or just recently got on finance and still have warranty...I'm sure there would be a few people for sure but not enough to warrant their investment into it at this point...once N54 is close to the end of production they "might" get into it but I really think they'll just go after the S65 (current M3)...

kyleb350 · 12-14-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

Nothing...they'll get on it once they see a business opportunity for it...who's ready to shell out 20-35K for their kit with a car they might be leasing or just recently got on finance and still have warranty...I'm sure there would be a few people for sure but not enough to warrant their investment into it at this point...once N54 is close to the end of production they "might" get into it but I really think they'll just go after the S65 (current M3)...

Wow, THAT much? Plus supporting mods (clutch, half shafts, FMIC, intake, exhaust, etc), you're looking at the cost of a new car. How much would one spend on everything once everything is said and done? I can see why they definitely need a business justification to put R&D into the kit.

dzenno · 12-14-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kyleb350

Wow, THAT much? Plus supporting mods (clutch, half shafts, FMIC, intake, exhaust, etc), you're looking at the cost of a new car. How much would one spend on everything once everything is said and done? I can see why they definitely need a business justification to put R&D into the kit.

I just blurted out a number based on their current pricing models...you get everything required in their kits but yeah a new clutch and upgraded axles would need to be there as additional items for sure...fmic, intake, exhaust would be included...take a look at their site and their current E46 kits/pricing and you should have a better idea of what's provided

Slidewayz · 12-14-2010, 10:47 AM

So far, there have been a number of people pos(t)ing about their single turbo upgrades/kits, but they all go dark when they try to push above 500WHP on pump gas. There is also a restriction in the intercooler piping, so that would have to be addressed as well.

That's apparently where the stock fuel system hits its limit. I also wouldn't want to try running nearly 2 bars of boost without full control of fuel and ignition timing, which is another obstacle for some approaches.

Once we get a viable single turbo running and reliably tuned, let's hope they use a good turbo so the torque curve doesn't look like a ski slope!

I'm sure HPF could get this done, but their gear is $$$ and who knows when that will happen.

AR is talking a good game and maybe they'll deliver, but they went quiet and started being snippy when people challenged them on their dyno 'correction'. In other words, they hit the fuel limit too. I honestly hope they drop an accurately-measured 600WHP dyno with a nice torque curve on the group.

I've also heard the ETS rumor. If it is true, they are certainly up to the task solving the fuel and intercooler restriction piping problems.

So, at the moment my money is on ETS delivering a viable single turbo kit w/o voodoo dyno tweaks.

packinDSS · 12-14-2010, 01:07 PM

I think HPF is finding if difficult to spend time developing for the e90 because their M3 turbo business seemed to explode with demand in the last 2 years and may be comsuming all their talent and resources currently. I just don't think they have the resources available at this time to complete the E90 upgrade kit. It is definatley on their agenda though

dlbrooks18 · 12-14-2010, 02:08 PM

It's definitely on their agenda, they have a 335 engine currently dropped in their shop and are in only the design phase.. we should expect to hear some progress next summer, so it's still a ways out.. hopeful by next December it may be in production..

ar design · 12-14-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Slidewayz

they hit the fuel limit too.

That is news to me.

You should stop posting incorrect information about our company and products in EVERY single thread on this forum. Its getting old.

Diego@Lutzperformance · 12-14-2010, 02:23 PM

FYI, as of Dec 2010 the N54 platform has become HPFs main priority...

dlbrooks18 · 12-14-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Diego@Lutzperformance

FYI, as of Dec 2010 the N54 platform has become HPFs main priority...

.. and I'm sure they are excited to know the new 1M Coupe has the N54 poweplant!

Will335i · 12-14-2010, 03:07 PM

I have about lost hope in their exhaust let alone a turbo kit.

vasillalov · 12-14-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Will335i

I have about lost hope in their exhaust let alone a turbo kit.

You kidding? Exhaust, turbo kit...

They've been working on their charge pipe kit since April.... How hard can it be?

sunnydshine · 12-14-2010, 03:33 PM

I gave up on the exhaust

Slidewayz · 12-14-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ar design

That is news to me.

You should stop posting incorrect information about our company and products in EVERY single thread on this forum. Its getting old.

Would you like a little cheese with that whine ?

Prove otherwise or STFU.

In the meantime, (1) I don't post about your turbo project in every thread...I don't care about it that much and (2) you will also notice that I have been posting that I hope it works out for you.

I have nothing against you, your products, or your company. So, if you wish to act like a petulant child, that's on you not on me.

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Clap135 Brigadier General 102 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	What upgrades? They haven't really done anything yet.
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cuban335i Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,550 Posts Drives: 535i xdrive Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: central NJ iTrader: (18)	by the time HPF comes out with a kit, I probably won't be in a bmw or on this forum anymore (2+ years I think), so i've given up on them.. __________________ Current: '13 F10 535i xDrive - lightly modded for now Previous: '12 e92 M3 Melbourne Red/Bamboo - ADV.1 ADV10, Volk TE37SL, OSS, Innotech F1, Arkym, iND '09 e92 335i Alpine White/Saddle Brown - fully modded
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import36 Burrito bowl connoisseur 124 Rep 3,501 Posts Drives: 2015 Nissan GTR Black Edition Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Seven Cities iTrader: (1)	looks like AR may have the first BT kit out. isn't ETS working on something as well? those will surely be available before the HPF kit.
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dzenno Banned 273 Rep 5,876 Posts Drives: Join Date: Feb 2006 iTrader: (1)	Nothing...they'll get on it once they see a business opportunity for it...who's ready to shell out 20-35K for their kit with a car they might be leasing or just recently got on finance and still have warranty...I'm sure there would be a few people for sure but not enough to warrant their investment into it at this point...once N54 is close to the end of production they "might" get into it but I really think they'll just go after the S65 (current M3)...
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Slidewayz Major 33 Rep 1,177 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oakland, CA iTrader: (5)	So far, there have been a number of people pos(t)ing about their single turbo upgrades/kits, but they all go dark when they try to push above 500WHP on pump gas. There is also a restriction in the intercooler piping, so that would have to be addressed as well. That's apparently where the stock fuel system hits its limit. I also wouldn't want to try running nearly 2 bars of boost without full control of fuel and ignition timing, which is another obstacle for some approaches. Once we get a viable single turbo running and reliably tuned, let's hope they use a good turbo so the torque curve doesn't look like a ski slope! I'm sure HPF could get this done, but their gear is $$$ and who knows when that will happen. AR is talking a good game and maybe they'll deliver, but they went quiet and started being snippy when people challenged them on their dyno 'correction'. In other words, they hit the fuel limit too. I honestly hope they drop an accurately-measured 600WHP dyno with a nice torque curve on the group. I've also heard the ETS rumor. If it is true, they are certainly up to the task solving the fuel and intercooler restriction piping problems. So, at the moment my money is on ETS delivering a viable single turbo kit w/o voodoo dyno tweaks.
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packinDSS Lead Foot 18 Rep 409 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Sedan Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Jersey iTrader: (1)	I think HPF is finding if difficult to spend time developing for the e90 because their M3 turbo business seemed to explode with demand in the last 2 years and may be comsuming all their talent and resources currently. I just don't think they have the resources available at this time to complete the E90 upgrade kit. It is definatley on their agenda though
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dlbrooks18 Brigadier General 161 Rep 3,736 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (2)	It's definitely on their agenda, they have a 335 engine currently dropped in their shop and are in only the design phase.. we should expect to hear some progress next summer, so it's still a ways out.. hopeful by next December it may be in production.. __________________ 2008 E90 335
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Will335i The Engineer 26 Rep 329 Posts Drives: AW 07' 335i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis MO iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 335i e92 [1.00]	I have about lost hope in their exhaust let alone a turbo kit.
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