Whats it take to beat a M3

D335I · 12-08-2010, 10:03 PM

07, 6spd, cpe, JB3, DCI

Whats it take to beat a M3, I have hung with one for a minute on map 5 with a little 100 oct mix but I could tell he was starting to pull and we had to shut down.

Ran another and it was a different race, he is stock too but pulled much harder. It was pretty cold and I was on map 5 and only 91 pump so maybe the gas made a big difference, or the first one I raced was slow.

I didn't expect to beat him but I thought I would do a little better. I know DP's and a FMIC will make a difference but lil sucker was fast.

themyst · 12-08-2010, 10:05 PM

DCT will pull harder than a 6MT significantly. DCT M3's trap 114ish and are in the fat part of the powerband much longer than a 6MT due to the shorter gear ratios.

That could explain it.

Jonny550 · 12-08-2010, 10:15 PM

i had trouble with 1 with map7, dci,downpipes but he still was in my rearview.

M3_WC · 12-08-2010, 10:30 PM

From a roll or dig?

DCT or manual?

ciomas · 12-08-2010, 10:42 PM

I have a n55 +LSD + HP autowerks AF and I recently had a problem with a moded (exhaust+program) e36 M3. Hope AR sends those DPs quickly so I can finally get a remap as well... the car feels slow... :/

M3 Eater · 12-08-2010, 11:05 PM

hehe.... JB3 and DCI should be all you need. Are you a coupe or sedan? Sport or non?

Map 5 and you should nose him out in the 1/4... Up over 100 is where the M3 breaks loose and manages the road a bit better as well. If its a new V8 well then you need my car! JB3 Map 8, meth, dci, Down pipes, speed delimiter.

D335I · 12-08-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by D335I

07, 6spd, cpe, JB3, DCI

Whats it take to beat a M3, I have hung with one for a minute on map 5 with a little 100 oct mix but I could tell he was starting to pull and we had to shut down.

Ran another and it was a different race, he is stock too but pulled much harder. It was pretty cold and I was on map 5 and only 91 pump so maybe the gas made a big difference, or the first one I raced was slow.

I didn't expect to beat him but I thought I would do a little better. I know DP's and a FMIC will make a difference but lil sucker was fast.

Sorry should have made that clear, they both were E92, coupes the first was a stick the more recent was a DCT and was holding speed much better. Both races were a few seconds into 4th for me then I shut down.

D335I · 12-08-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Eater

hehe.... JB3 and DCI should be all you need. Are you a coupe or sedan? Sport or non?

Map 5 and you should nose him out in the 1/4... Up over 100 is where the M3 breaks loose and manages the road a bit better as well. If its a new V8 well then you need my car! JB3 Map 8, meth, dci, Down pipes, speed delimiter.

Im coupe, sport, 6spd they were both V8s one stick and one DCT, and everything was fine until we reached higher speeds. I think your right I need the works.

Proper Motion LLC · 12-09-2010, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by D335I

Im coupe, sport, 6spd they were both V8s one stick and one DCT, and everything was fine until we reached higher speeds. I think your right I need the works.

Im 6spd too...6spd auto..

Jonny550 · 12-09-2010, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by M3 Eater

hehe.... JB3 and DCI should be all you need. Are you a coupe or sedan? Sport or non?

Map 5 and you should nose him out in the 1/4... Up over 100 is where the M3 breaks loose and manages the road a bit better as well. If its a new V8 well then you need my car! JB3 Map 8, meth, dci, Down pipes, speed delimiter.

Not even, Map7,DCI, 100 oct is all heall need.

the m3 will reel back in after 120 but whats the point in going faster.

Arnold_Powers · 12-09-2010, 02:10 AM

i have beat a few e92 m3's around my area. i have a jb3 2.0 map 6 with dci and muffler delete. on the auto. i recently raced a e60 m5 with my same mods and 104 octane, 60 roll and pulled about 3 car lengths.

sole cal · 12-09-2010, 02:15 AM

I raced a DCT stock e90 m3. Im AT and I have the OE Tuning Flash, BMS DCI, & Gintani test exhaust (2.5 inch piping [replaces 2ndary cats on with no resonators] & magnaflow mufflers). We were neck and neck and right when I put it into 3rd I was gone.

IlChengis · 12-09-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rysandro

Im 6spd too...6spd auto..

Sorry.

-Walter

Shieldze1025 · 12-09-2010, 09:18 AM

I just have OE Tuning Flash and DCI and I'm about dead even with an M3. I raced my buddy who has a Gintani flash, Gintani X-pipe, AA exhaust, Macht Schnell Air filter and he pulled maybe a bumper length on me from a dig.

The DCT is definitely the difference, every one of my buddys pulls ahead on shifts.

Stucks · 12-09-2010, 11:12 AM

You can pull on DCT m3's with bolt ons and a tune, but you will need nearly all of the bolt ons. The 6mt e92/e90 m3's can easily be taken with just a tune and intake....and maybe a little race gas.
As everyone has stated, DCT m3's are much faster and there is no room for driver error like there would be in a 6mt m3. A 6mt m3 wont ever shift as fast as a DCT will either.

Iwantm3 · 12-09-2010, 11:18 AM

wow your car is slow dude , I ran m3 6 speed with exhaust and destroyed him, I ran only ctless dp's dci and v4 with default settings and a a passenger in my car , also raced a c63 with same mods and kept up dead even up to 135

hemi to e90 · 12-09-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Iwantm3

wow your car is slow dude , I ran m3 6 speed with exhaust and destroyed him, I ran only ctless dp's dci and v4 with default settings and a a passenger in my car , also raced a c63 with same mods and kept up dead even up to 135

i guess that makes your screen name ironic then?

Iwantm3 · 12-09-2010, 11:26 AM

lol I was actually planing on getting m3 before I got the 335

s2k_335i · 12-09-2010, 11:47 AM

I beat an e92 M3 while driving to Vegas several months ago with Intake, V4, DP, AMS FMIC.

lawdude · 12-09-2010, 12:09 PM

Maybe you should get a new Mustang GT:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html

dlbrooks18 · 12-09-2010, 12:25 PM

A stock E92 M3 DCT runs a 12.7 at 113mph.. JB3 with meth/race gas and DCI should be enough, but it's neck and neck and more of a drivers race... I saw an E92 JB3 with stock wheels + street tires and meth + race gas run a 12.6 at 116mph last weekend..

Jonny550 · 12-09-2010, 12:29 PM

Why is everyone going insane try to prove facts and everytime someone says " no iam faster then an m3" right behind it youll here " you should get the new mustang"

1. The m3 is nothing near slow in a straight line
2. an n54 with a simple (15psi) tune,100 oct and a DCI WILL BEAT a DCT>MT e9x m3
3. The m3 is a track superstar it will eat any 335i around it and most $100k+ sports cars
4. The the 5.0 will beat the new m3 and 90% of tuned n54's so dont underestimate it.
5. just because its an american car does not mean the car is slow i dont know where people came up with this theory.

12-08-2010, 10:03 PM	#1
D335I Private First Class 15 Rep 156 Posts Drives: 07, 6SPD, WHITE, RED INTR Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mid West iTrader: (0)	Whats it take to beat a M3 07, 6spd, cpe, JB3, DCI Whats it take to beat a M3, I have hung with one for a minute on map 5 with a little 100 oct mix but I could tell he was starting to pull and we had to shut down. Ran another and it was a different race, he is stock too but pulled much harder. It was pretty cold and I was on map 5 and only 91 pump so maybe the gas made a big difference, or the first one I raced was slow. I didn't expect to beat him but I thought I would do a little better. I know DP's and a FMIC will make a difference but lil sucker was fast. __________________ 07, 6SPD, WHITE, RED INTR,
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themyst Major General 177 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	DCT will pull harder than a 6MT significantly. DCT M3's trap 114ish and are in the fat part of the powerband much longer than a 6MT due to the shorter gear ratios. That could explain it. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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Jonny550 Brigadier General 241 Rep 4,936 Posts Drives: 2012 550i Xdrive Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jersey Shore iTrader: (14)	i had trouble with 1 with map7, dci,downpipes but he still was in my rearview. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] .
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M3_WC Brigadier General 1040 Rep 3,622 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	From a roll or dig? DCT or manual?
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ciomas Captain 30 Rep 679 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: 3city PL iTrader: (0)	I have a n55 +LSD + HP autowerks AF and I recently had a problem with a moded (exhaust+program) e36 M3. Hope AR sends those DPs quickly so I can finally get a remap as well... the car feels slow... :/
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M3 Eater Major 36 Rep 1,054 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: May 2010 Location: Unknown iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	hehe.... JB3 and DCI should be all you need. Are you a coupe or sedan? Sport or non? Map 5 and you should nose him out in the 1/4... Up over 100 is where the M3 breaks loose and manages the road a bit better as well. If its a new V8 well then you need my car! JB3 Map 8, meth, dci, Down pipes, speed delimiter. __________________ JB4 beta 15 ohms FSB,AEM inline filter/ CM 10, ETS fmic, ER custom made charge pipe,TSW Donnington 18's,Simitumo HTRZ3, Injen DCI, AR DPs, Forge DVs, AA SLD, Koni FSD, ZSP springs.
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Arnold_Powers that M guy 137 Rep 1,134 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (6)	i have beat a few e92 m3's around my area. i have a jb3 2.0 map 6 with dci and muffler delete. on the auto. i recently raced a e60 m5 with my same mods and 104 octane, 60 roll and pulled about 3 car lengths.
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sole cal Black Mamba 66 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SoCal 818 iTrader: (10)	I raced a DCT stock e90 m3. Im AT and I have the OE Tuning Flash, BMS DCI, & Gintani test exhaust (2.5 inch piping [replaces 2ndary cats on with no resonators] & magnaflow mufflers). We were neck and neck and right when I put it into 3rd I was gone.
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Shieldze1025 Keepin' America Free 72 Rep 1,260 Posts Drives: F10 535i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Haleiwa, HI iTrader: (7)	I just have OE Tuning Flash and DCI and I'm about dead even with an M3. I raced my buddy who has a Gintani flash, Gintani X-pipe, AA exhaust, Macht Schnell Air filter and he pulled maybe a bumper length on me from a dig. The DCT is definitely the difference, every one of my buddys pulls ahead on shifts. __________________ F10 535i \| Retired: E60 ///M5 \| E92 335i "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" -Mario Andretti
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Stucks Lieutenant Colonel 172 Rep 1,909 Posts Drives: 2017 F30 340i Xdrive Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Montgomery County, MD iTrader: (12)	You can pull on DCT m3's with bolt ons and a tune, but you will need nearly all of the bolt ons. The 6mt e92/e90 m3's can easily be taken with just a tune and intake....and maybe a little race gas. As everyone has stated, DCT m3's are much faster and there is no room for driver error like there would be in a 6mt m3. A 6mt m3 wont ever shift as fast as a DCT will either. __________________ Current: 2017 F30 340i xdrive Previous: 2008 e92 335i coupe: RB turbos, mach 116 race fuel, methanol, alot of boost. Previous: 2003 Honda Accord V6 coupe: AEM V2, zex 75 wet shot (sold)
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12-09-2010, 11:18 AM	#16
Iwantm3 Banned 34 Rep 1,284 Posts Drives: 335i M sport Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: US AND A I likeeeee iTrader: (1)	wow your car is slow dude , I ran m3 6 speed with exhaust and destroyed him, I ran only ctless dp's dci and v4 with default settings and a a passenger in my car , also raced a c63 with same mods and kept up dead even up to 135
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Iwantm3 Banned 34 Rep 1,284 Posts Drives: 335i M sport Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: US AND A I likeeeee iTrader: (1)	lol I was actually planing on getting m3 before I got the 335
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s2k_335i This is it!! 15 Rep 672 Posts Drives: FBO 335i without meth Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Land of Freedom iTrader: (1)	I beat an e92 M3 while driving to Vegas several months ago with Intake, V4, DP, AMS FMIC.
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lawdude Colonel 93 Rep 2,339 Posts Drives: 335i ZPP ZSP TiAg MT Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia iTrader: (1)	Maybe you should get a new Mustang GT: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html __________________ What do I know? I'm insane.
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dlbrooks18 Brigadier General 161 Rep 3,736 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (2)	A stock E92 M3 DCT runs a 12.7 at 113mph.. JB3 with meth/race gas and DCI should be enough, but it's neck and neck and more of a drivers race... I saw an E92 JB3 with stock wheels + street tires and meth + race gas run a 12.6 at 116mph last weekend.. __________________ 2008 E90 335
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12-09-2010, 12:29 PM	#22
Jonny550 Brigadier General 241 Rep 4,936 Posts Drives: 2012 550i Xdrive Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jersey Shore iTrader: (14)	Why is everyone going insane try to prove facts and everytime someone says " no iam faster then an m3" right behind it youll here " you should get the new mustang" 1. The m3 is nothing near slow in a straight line 2. an n54 with a simple (15psi) tune,100 oct and a DCI WILL BEAT a DCT>MT e9x m3 3. The m3 is a track superstar it will eat any 335i around it and most $100k+ sports cars 4. The the 5.0 will beat the new m3 and 90% of tuned n54's so dont underestimate it. 5. just because its an american car does not mean the car is slow i dont know where people came up with this theory. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] .
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