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swamp2 · 12-09-2006, 05:06 PM

"New M3 to debut in Frankfurt: The new M3 will debut at next September's Frankfurt auto show. The Sydney Morning Herald reports that the BMW M boss Ulrich Bruhnke confirmed the date while at the launch of the M6 convertible in southern France last September. "The Frankfurt International Motor Show is so important [to BMW] we must show it there," he said. The fourth-generation M3, based on the E90 3 Series Coupe....... ".

Page 32 of December 2006 Issue Heard on the Strasse column by Bob Roemer.

Some more detials of the interview with Bruhnke are here: http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...eID=20369&vf=1

Nice digs against MB philosophy in this one.

Damn I sure hope this is wrong. Based on the maturity of the mules, as well as how old the quote actually is I'm still optimistic for Geneva. Making sure that the cars get to NA as 2008 models also makes a debut in Sep 07 seem impossible (cars arrive in EU a couple months earlier than US). Only time will tell....

Last E92 M3 · 12-09-2006, 07:03 PM

k...so...
it's coming next next year?
NOOOOOO

mofomat · 12-10-2006, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

"New M3 to debut in Frankfurt: The new M3 will debut at next September's Frankfurt auto show. The Sydney Morning Herald reports that the BMW M boss Ulrich Bruhnke confirmed the date while at the launch of the M6 convertible in southern France last September. "The Frankfurt International Motor Show is so important [to BMW] we must show it there," he said. The fourth-generation M3, based on the E90 3 Series Coupe....... ".

Page 32 of December 2006 Issue Heard on the Strasse column by Bob Roemer.

Some more detials of the interview with Bruhnke are here: http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...eID=20369&vf=1

Nice digs against MB philosophy in this one.

Damn I sure hope this is wrong. Based on the maturity of the mules, as well as how old the quote actually is I'm still optimistic for Geneva. Making sure that the cars get to NA as 2008 models also makes a debut in Sep 07 seem impossible (cars arrive in EU a couple months earlier than US). Only time will tell....

There is no Frankfurt motor show in 2008. It alternates with Paris. So 2007 will be Frankfurt, and 2008 will be Paris.

Looking at the amount of disguise on the spy shots now, the E92 M3 will be launched at Geneva March 2007.

mloyelo · 12-10-2006, 01:51 PM

I agree with Geneva March '07.

jtown · 12-10-2006, 06:05 PM

God 08 would be horrible. The next gen 3 series coupe would be right around the corner.

zeebeda · 12-10-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jtown

God 08 would be horrible. The next gen 3 series coupe would be right around the corner.

Agreed.
Hopefully it will be no later than 2007.

ILC32 · 12-11-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

Nice digs against MB philosophy in this one.

From the article, Bruhnke:

"was also dismissive of Mercedes-Benz AMG's insatiable appetite for engine performance at any cost, saying the next M3 would stay faithful to the driving dynamics and handling balance that the M reputation is built on.

'We are much more than just the biggest engine in every car.'"

Yes, I like that about M but I hope Bruhnke is not managing expectations with this quote. I want the M3 to have superior dynamics AND enough power to outperform AMG even in a straight line.

SpencerM3 · 12-11-2006, 04:59 PM

Works for me!

I am one of the first few people on my dealers list, though my current car ’06 Audi S4, lease doesn’t expire until November ’08. That should be a perfect time to get a second run of the M3, get some of the first run kinks out and maybe lease rates will be a little more favorable.

devo · 12-13-2006, 08:12 AM

If the M3 debuts in March, when would the car actually hit the streets?

m_bazeepaymon · 12-13-2006, 11:20 AM

we'll.. you have to wait for it to hit in Europe first.. And it may take a lot of time to hit the US...

I asked some1 at the LA autoshow about when the M3 wil be in US (some persona t the bmw section) they said 10-12 months... I got so upset.. but then i talked to Ivine BMW where I am #1 on the list.. they said that production starts in March- May... SO i have no idea what is going to happen.

m_bazeepaymon · 12-13-2006, 01:19 PM

Guys i hope it will be debuted in March... but Don't they always skip a production year?

They produced 06 E46... so they will skip 2007 and maybe they will amke it a 2008... so september... ehh.....

I pray to god no but i think the source might be right

bambam · 12-14-2006, 09:49 AM

no way it's debuting in 08. no way. the e90 would be already an "old model".

its debuting in 07, what month? no idea

m_bazeepaymon · 12-14-2006, 01:35 PM

i dont know if u rad my other thread... but Logically it should be like this
Coupe Debut in 2007
Cabrolet at Frankfurt for 08

:rocks:

unless those dealers lie

replicat · 12-14-2006, 03:39 PM

Maybe theres a mixup between 07-08 debut?

Lets clear things up. It WILL be '08 model (history says one year off for the predecessor) therefore there is no way it would come out as an '08 in September because that would be '09 model.

...yaaayyy for logic!

swamp2 · 12-14-2006, 06:35 PM

First let me say that I generally think we know more than dealers. Often it is absolutely the case that we know waaay more and they are total BS-ers. Anyway I got these updates from my sales manager today and so far he has been a really good guy. Some quotes some paraphrasing and I added some comments:

No official news – but we are expecting the car in the summer of ’07. Maybe the guy at Irvine has more official info than me (see initial post)???? We just got back from Phoenix with BMW launching the new X5 and they gave us all kinds of scoops – new 1 series, facelift 5 and 6 series, hydrogen 7, hardtop convertible 3 series, diesel motors….. Nothing about the M3!! (we did get to thrash the X5 around Firebird raceway – fun!!) I will let you know if we get any official news.

New York, April, is a good guess for the cars debut (maybe he meant US debut not international)?

We should have official vehicle specifcations by Feb ’07?

Since SBBMW is one of the larger dealers they expect 1-4 M3s/mo after allocations begin.

bmwexecutive · 12-17-2006, 11:08 AM

Geneva '07 would be perfect! If that were the case I'd place a deposit on an M3 within days of its debut and then hopefully take delivery sometime in late June or July. That would give me 13 months in total with my current 330i.

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swamp2 Lieutenant General 609 Rep 10,407 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA iTrader: (3)	Roundel - September 2008 debut @ Frankfurt "New M3 to debut in Frankfurt: The new M3 will debut at next September's Frankfurt auto show. The Sydney Morning Herald reports that the BMW M boss Ulrich Bruhnke confirmed the date while at the launch of the M6 convertible in southern France last September. "The Frankfurt International Motor Show is so important [to BMW] we must show it there," he said. The fourth-generation M3, based on the E90 3 Series Coupe....... ". Page 32 of December 2006 Issue Heard on the Strasse column by Bob Roemer. Some more detials of the interview with Bruhnke are here: http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...eID=20369&vf=1 Nice digs against MB philosophy in this one. Damn I sure hope this is wrong. Based on the maturity of the mules, as well as how old the quote actually is I'm still optimistic for Geneva. Making sure that the cars get to NA as 2008 models also makes a debut in Sep 07 seem impossible (cars arrive in EU a couple months earlier than US). Only time will tell....
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jtown Lieutenant 33 Rep 596 Posts Drives: TBD Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norcal iTrader: (0)	God 08 would be horrible. The next gen 3 series coupe would be right around the corner.
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devo Colonel 755 Rep 2,736 Posts Drives: Bimmers & Porsches Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	If the M3 debuts in March, when would the car actually hit the streets?
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m_bazeepaymon Major 58 Rep 1,075 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (4)	we'll.. you have to wait for it to hit in Europe first.. And it may take a lot of time to hit the US... I asked some1 at the LA autoshow about when the M3 wil be in US (some persona t the bmw section) they said 10-12 months... I got so upset.. but then i talked to Ivine BMW where I am #1 on the list.. they said that production starts in March- May... SO i have no idea what is going to happen.
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m_bazeepaymon Major 58 Rep 1,075 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (4)	bad news:( Guys i hope it will be debuted in March... but Don't they always skip a production year? They produced 06 E46... so they will skip 2007 and maybe they will amke it a 2008... so september... ehh..... I pray to god no but i think the source might be right
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bambam Enlisted Member 0 Rep 39 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	no way it's debuting in 08. no way. the e90 would be already an "old model". its debuting in 07, what month? no idea
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m_bazeepaymon Major 58 Rep 1,075 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (4)	i dont know if u rad my other thread... but Logically it should be like this Coupe Debut in 2007 Cabrolet at Frankfurt for 08 :rocks: unless those dealers lie
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replicat Lieutenant 23 Rep 515 Posts Drives: 40MPG Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern California iTrader: (0)	Maybe theres a mixup between 07-08 debut? Lets clear things up. It WILL be '08 model (history says one year off for the predecessor) therefore there is no way it would come out as an '08 in September because that would be '09 model. ...yaaayyy for logic!
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swamp2 Lieutenant General 609 Rep 10,407 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA iTrader: (3)	Good updates from South Bay BMW First let me say that I generally think we know more than dealers. Often it is absolutely the case that we know waaay more and they are total BS-ers. Anyway I got these updates from my sales manager today and so far he has been a really good guy. Some quotes some paraphrasing and I added some comments: No official news – but we are expecting the car in the summer of ’07. Maybe the guy at Irvine has more official info than me (see initial post)???? We just got back from Phoenix with BMW launching the new X5 and they gave us all kinds of scoops – new 1 series, facelift 5 and 6 series, hydrogen 7, hardtop convertible 3 series, diesel motors….. Nothing about the M3!! (we did get to thrash the X5 around Firebird raceway – fun!!) I will let you know if we get any official news. New York, April, is a good guess for the cars debut (maybe he meant US debut not international)? We should have official vehicle specifcations by Feb ’07? Since SBBMW is one of the larger dealers they expect 1-4 M3s/mo after allocations begin.
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bmwexecutive Banned 240 Rep 2,453 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Coast iTrader: (4)	Geneva '07 would be perfect! If that were the case I'd place a deposit on an M3 within days of its debut and then hopefully take delivery sometime in late June or July. That would give me 13 months in total with my current 330i.
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