FS: Meistershaft SUS - GT2 **Price Lowered**

[kirksl]

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Asking Price:

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Item Interest

For Sale:
Meisterschaft SUS - GT2
Round/Split Tips
Aero Shield
Less than 10K miles of use

Retail: $2990
Selling For: $1500 OBO

Email: kirksl@gmail.com
Phone: 206-406-0171

Sound Clip

Pics

[Nucking Futs!]

YouTube clip no workie.

- Jimmy

[kirksl]

Fixed.

[Nate@IND]

This system is not made by Eisenmann Germany. Please edit your sales post.

[kirksl]

Can you elaborate please. Who else makes a Meistershaft?

[AV9]

Originally Posted by kirksl

Can you elaborate please. Who else makes a Meistershaft?

GT Haus

[kirksl]

How can I tell which one I have? It's only stamped with Meisterschaft labeling on the muffler cans, aero shield and the exhaust tips.

One other question, is GT Haus inferior or superior to Eisenmann? From both of their websites, looks like they both make some pretty strong arm claims about their quality.

[kitw]

Originally Posted by kirksl

How can I tell which one I have? It's only stamped with Meisterschaft labeling on the muffler cans, aero shield and the exhaust tips.

One other question, is GT Haus inferior or superior to Eisenmann? From both of their websites, looks like they both make some pretty strong arm claims about their quality.

As far as I understand, Eisenhaus ended up copying Eisenmann's designs and began selling inferior quality exhausts, from a materials perspective alongside the real Eisenmann Meisterschaft exhausts. Eisenmann eventually revoked their disti status, and removed the sullied Meisterschaft branding off their exhausts. Eisenhaus renamed themselves GT Haus (after threats of lawsuits) and marketed their own exhausts made in Korea. Unfortunately, even to this day, they are copies, mostly of Eisenmann exhausts, which is why I'd never use one.

This was well before the E9x M3 exhaust made it to our shores, so you have a copy.

[Nucking Futs!]

Can't speak for other applications however, the e9x M3 exhausts from Meisterschaft aren't copies of Eisenmann exhausts (it's rather obvious if you look at both muffler designs). As far as quality of the e9x M3 exhausts, I've never once heard of quality control issues w/Meisterschaft. They both cater to two different end-users since the Meisterschaft exhausts sounds more F1 high-pitch & very loud while the Eisenmann exhausts caters towards the domestic v8 deep growl that's only somewhat loud. And yes, I've heard & seen both in person (Meisterschaft GT & Eisenmann Race).

- Jimmy

[tha_good_life]

what are the lines in the pipe? Is that a valve?

[M3ryder55]

do u need to cut the stock exhaust to put this on if u dont have connecting pipes?

[Nucking Futs!]

Originally Posted by bapesta206

what are the lines in the pipe? Is that a valve?

"Pipes" as in the exhaust tips? If yes then no, those aren't valves. It's supposedly to tune the sound in the upper RPM band (smooths it out of some sort).

Originally Posted by M3ryder55

do u need to cut the stock exhaust to put this on if u dont have connecting pipes?

Yup! Or you can buy the SR-pipes from any Meisterschaft vendor. Also, Eisenmann & Agency Power has connecting pipes as well but not sure if they'll fit on here.

[m33]

Originally Posted by Nucking Futs!

Can't speak for other applications however, the e9x M3 exhausts from Meisterschaft aren't copies of Eisenmann exhausts (it's rather obvious if you look at both muffler designs). As far as quality of the e9x M3 exhausts, I've never once heard of quality control issues w/Meisterschaft. They both cater to two different end-users since the Meisterschaft exhausts sounds more F1 high-pitch & very loud while the Eisenmann exhausts caters towards the domestic v8 deep growl that's only somewhat loud. And yes, I've heard & seen both in person (Meisterschaft GT & Eisenmann Race).

- Jimmy

Now you have, my signature splitters fell apart how's that for quality

[Nate@IND]

Originally Posted by kirksl

Can you elaborate please. Who else makes a Meistershaft?

The system that you posted photos of is made by GThaus aka Eisenhaus in Korea. Eisenmann Germany never made any Meisterschaft systems ever. I see that the mods already made the edit to your post. Sorry again for getting in your thread.

http://www.google.com/search?source=...AAAqgQFT9AwpvU

[kirksl]

Thanks everyone for the education and your opinions.

I'm kinda curious.

Doing a lot of searching on google and the message boards, I don't really see many issues with GT Haus. At least not for the E9x M3 applications like Jimmy is pointing out. A few people have griped, others rave and seem to like the brand and their prices certainly aren't cheap! I've been completely happy with my GT2. A few engineers here in Seattle recommended it, it showed nice improvements on the dyno and sounds amazing. In fact a few people have even asked me why i'm not keeping it. I get the impression that GT Haus does make pretty good products, but reluctantly made a few bad choices at one time, reluctantly tarnishing their image. I don't suspect they'd stay in business long if they were truly selling knock off crap and telling people to pay 2-3k dollars for the equipment.

[tha_good_life]

BTW GL with the sale!

[KMIII]

So since its a "copy", how much is it worth?

[kirksl]

Is it a copy? Sounds like Jimmy's saying it's not based off of any of Eisenmann's products. I can't find any current or past products that it's duping. Can anyone else?

I paid $2990.00 plus tax for it new. Not sure what they go for used, ~$1500-1700 is what i'm seeing used ones go for.

[m33]

Originally Posted by kirksl

Is it a copy? Sounds like Jimmy's saying it's not based off of any of Eisenmann's products. I can't find any current or past products that it's duping. Can anyone else?

I paid $2990.00 plus tax for it new. Not sure what they go for used, ~$1500-1700 is what i'm seeing used ones go for.

Yeah that's the right ball park but do yourself a favor (op ) a cleaning and polishing will help your sale

[Nucking Futs!]

Originally Posted by m33

Now you have, my signature splitters fell apart how's that for quality

Well, that's a 1st I've heard of that. Then again, a local e46 M3 owner had an Eisenmann muffler & fitment was rather piss poor but I think that was in the minority. Point is, I'm sure every manufacturer has issues, just some more than others.

Originally Posted by KMIII

So since its a "copy", how much is it worth?

Originally Posted by kirksl

Is it a copy? Sounds like Jimmy's saying it's not based off of any of Eisenmann's products. I can't find any current or past products that it's duping. Can anyone else?

I paid $2990.00 plus tax for it new. Not sure what they go for used, ~$1500-1700 is what i'm seeing used ones go for.

LOL, for the nth time...This isn't a copy of the Eisenmann muffler. Rather obvious when you look at both designs.

- Jimmy

[gahbouch]

I will purchase it right now if available!