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      05-28-2010, 10:25 PM   #1
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Question What'll I be running with......?

I'm just waiting for my mechanic to let me know when he's got time to install my latest parts.. When all is said and done, I'll have the following:

1. JB3 1.4 on Map 7 or 9 (not sure yet)
2. Dual Cone Intake
3. Front Mount Intercooler
4. 3" Catless DPs
5. Methanol Injection*

* With the methanol injection, I'm not too sure where I'll have it set to "turn on" - so recommendations will be appreciated.

In any event, with just 1 and 2, I ran a 12.99 and I'm sure I could do a little better (it was my first drag strip run ever). I'm REALLY curious about what type of numbers I could get with 1 through 5 installed...

Would anyone mind giving me an estimate of what 0-60 and 1/4 times may be with my future setup? Just ball park figures...

Thanks in advance...
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first you need to update to 2.0.
24 or 18ohm?
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I figured I'd just keep my 1.4 because I'm satisfied with it. If I were to upgrade, however, is there a specific ohm I should ask for? I haven't done any research on ohms..
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You will have to DIY the 18ohm resistors yourself, or buy another box from BMS. They will not do the modification for you. It's critical to have the board upgrade if you plan on realizing the full potential of meth+race gas.

You need to upgrade to 2.0. You will be giving up a lot of potential and customization without it.

If you have drag radials, you should easily get into the 11's with those mods, regardless of transmission choice.
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Okay, I'll upgrade to 2.0... But I'll just stick with the regular ohm and hope for the best. I read a little bit about it and my gut tells me there's significantly more risk of breaking something with the 18ohm resistors..

I'll have the JB3 2.0 running on either map 7 or 9, a dual cone intake, a front mount intercooler, catless DPs, oil cooler (my sport model didn't come with one stock) and methanol injection. I have sticky tires but I probably won't see those 11s until I get an LSD...

When all is said and done, I REALLY don't care about having a car that's fast off the line. I prefer hitting the gas when I'm already in motion... But, I'm sure it'll be very impressive once I get the LSD installed... Some time later this year...
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Okay, I'll upgrade to 2.0... But I'll just stick with the regular ohm and hope for the best. I read a little bit about it and my gut tells me there's significantly more risk of breaking something with the 18ohm resistors..

I'll have the JB3 2.0 running on either map 7 or 9, a dual cone intake, a front mount intercooler, catless DPs, oil cooler (my sport model didn't come with one stock) and methanol injection. I have sticky tires but I probably won't see those 11s until I get an LSD...

When all is said and done, I REALLY don't care about having a car that's fast off the line. I prefer hitting the gas when I'm already in motion... But, I'm sure it'll be very impressive once I get the LSD installed... Some time later this year...
Wrong, it enables you to run more boost, which you will obviously want to do. When you are running the lower maps, no benefit or downside other than dialing in the global settings a little differently.
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I'm just waiting for my mechanic to let me know when he's got time to install my latest parts.. When all is said and done, I'll have the following:

1. JB3 1.4 on Map 7 or 9 (not sure yet)
2. Dual Cone Intake
3. Front Mount Intercooler
4. 3" Catless DPs
5. Methanol Injection*

* With the methanol injection, I'm not too sure where I'll have it set to "turn on" - so recommendations will be appreciated.

In any event, with just 1 and 2, I ran a 12.99 and I'm sure I could do a little better (it was my first drag strip run ever). I'm REALLY curious about what type of numbers I could get with 1 through 5 installed...

Would anyone mind giving me an estimate of what 0-60 and 1/4 times may be with my future setup? Just ball park figures...

Thanks in advance...
I just did a summary of performance improvements in a thread last month, you can see it here:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ight=hotrod182


Interestingly enough, my Blk Sedan is almost identical, maybe a little quicker at 118mph with just Tune+DCI+100 octane. Full weight.
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Wrong, it enables you to run more boost, which you will obviously want to do. When you are running the lower maps, no benefit or downside other than dialing in the global settings a little differently.
If I really want extra boost couldn't I just run a JB+ along with my JB3 and keep it at 25%-50%? Since that's all the JB+ really does.......

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I just did a summary of performance improvements in a thread last month, you can see it here:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ight=hotrod182

Interestingly enough, my Blk Sedan is almost identical, maybe a little quicker at 118mph with just Tune+DCI+100 octane. Full weight.
You might have just convinced me to go with the Dinan FMI, scrap the idea for catless DPs and use Methanol Injection. If the Meth, JB3 and DCI are the only things I need to uninstall before a dealer visit, I'd be pretty happy about that. I wouldn't need to take it anywhere as I could do all that myself. I don't want to have to remove a FMI and DPs for service visits...
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If I really want extra boost couldn't I just run a JB+ along with my JB3 and keep it at 25%-50%? Since that's all the JB+ really does.......



You might have just convinced me to go with the Dinan FMI, scrap the idea for catless DPs and use Methanol Injection. If the Meth, JB3 and DCI are the only things I need to uninstall before a dealer visit, I'd be pretty happy about that. I wouldn't need to take it anywhere as I could do all that myself. I don't want to have to remove a FMI and DPs for service visits...
No you would NOT want to add a JB+ on top of a JB3 get a friend who can solder and swap the resistors to 18ohm.
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No you would NOT want to add a JB+ on top of a JB3 get a friend who can solder and swap the resistors to 18ohm.
I know that people typically advise against running two piggy back tunes simultaneously. So you're saying that on map 7 or 9, I'll get more boost by updating the ohms? Any thoughts on my "second" thoughts on DPs?
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I know that people typically advise against running two piggy back tunes simultaneously. So you're saying that on map 7 or 9, I'll get more boost by updating the ohms? Any thoughts on my "second" thoughts on DPs?
Do not run the JB+ with the JB3 on the same vehicle.

Meth+DCI+Tune will give you awesome results. Everything else will give you incremental gains. The downpipes are not the biggest gains for ease of install/removal. But they will give you better throttle response and louder exhaust note. And all the little things add up if you are trying to be the fastest at the track. Otherwise 80% of your HP gains are easy, and the last 20% (besides nitrous) is much more difficult.
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Thank you, HotRod.. Maybe I should just make things really easy on myself and have my local BMW dealer install the Dinan FMIC so that's one thing I don't have to worry about dealing with for service visits.. Then install Methanol Injection and run Map 7 or 9 and see where that gets me. If I need more, I can always cross that bridge and look into Catless DPs...

I'm under the impression now that the DPs would only net me a tenth of a second in the quarter mile - and maybe that's just not worth the trouble. I cannot install/uninstall DPs myself - so if I don't deal with them, I'll be able to handle everything else in my garage for service visits.

I was under the impression that the DPs would make a major difference in responsiveness.. If it's only a very slight change and only worth a tenth of a second, they're probably not worth it for me...

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Do not run the JB+ with the JB3 on the same vehicle.

Meth+DCI+Tune will give you awesome results. Everything else will give you incremental gains. The downpipes are not the biggest gains for ease of install/removal. But they will give you better throttle response and louder exhaust note. And all the little things add up if you are trying to be the fastest at the track. Otherwise 80% of your HP gains are easy, and the last 20% (besides nitrous) is much more difficult.
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Catless DPs relieve back pressure on the turbos which is important when you are pushing more boost. They certainly become a solid enabler of more power by supporting more load on the turbos.
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