Got a ticket. Fight or not? :/

SolidSnake2634 · 01-08-2010, 02:28 AM

So the other night I got a ticket for "Unsafe Turn/Failing to signal" VC 22107. Its my very first ticket. So I thought about using ticket assassin to fight it. But i'm not sure. What do you guys think? Should I fight it or not?

And if people who've used ticket assassin before can chime in it'd be great. TIA!

iAerodynamic · 01-08-2010, 07:02 AM

always fight it

trial declaration that shit

UncleWede · 01-08-2010, 09:34 AM

Fairly simple question: did you
a) leave your current lane without your turn signal blinking
b) make somebody speed up, swerve, slow down, or stop by your change of lane even if your signal was on?

If you answered yes to either of those, and an officer saw you, then you are betting on getting the officer to forget or not show up. You don't really need to pay any money to discover that.

No, I haven't used ticket assassin myself, and have been to traffic school twice in 27 years of driving.

PokGuy · 01-08-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by UncleWede

Fairly simple question: did you
a) leave your current lane without your turn signal blinking
b) make somebody speed up, swerve, slow down, or stop by your change of lane even if your signal was on?

If you answered yes to either of those, and an officer saw you, then you are betting on getting the officer to forget or not show up. You don't really need to pay any money to discover that.

No, I haven't used ticket assassin myself, and have been to traffic school twice in 27 years of driving.

why is that Unco Wede

Samuel L Jackson · 01-08-2010, 04:22 PM

Ticket Assassin is a scam, I wasted money on it. Just do a written trial, if cop responds, do a trial de novo, if cop shows up change plea to guilty and get traffic school. Consult lawyer, I've written about this somewhere here before in more detail. Do a search.

SolidSnake2634 · 01-08-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by iAerodynamic

always fight it

trial declaration that shit

how?

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Fairly simple question: did you
a) leave your current lane without your turn signal blinking
b) make somebody speed up, swerve, slow down, or stop by your change of lane even if your signal was on?

If you answered yes to either of those, and an officer saw you, then you are betting on getting the officer to forget or not show up. You don't really need to pay any money to discover that.

No, I haven't used ticket assassin myself, and have been to traffic school twice in 27 years of driving.

I guess I did "a)". I was just going down a long stretch of road and there were absolutely no cars whatsoever. None in front, back, or left or right. It was a major road and i just turned into a residential street without signaling thinking that since theres no cars I wouldn't need to. Right when I turned, I saw the flashing lights of the cop :/. She said she noticed me because my passenger side headlight was out. And something about she was doing traffic that night so she HAD to cite me for not signaling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuel L Jackson

Ticket Assassin is a scam, I wasted money on it. Just do a written trial, if cop responds, do a trial de novo, if cop shows up change plea to guilty and get traffic school. Consult lawyer, I've written about this somewhere here before in more detail. Do a search.

thanks

neoduffer · 01-08-2010, 06:05 PM

That was pretty petty of the cop to write you up for that. Anyways...

VC 22107 states:
"22107. No person shall turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a roadway until such movement can be made with reasonable safety and then only after the giving of an appropriate signal in the manner provided in this chapter in the event any other vehicle may be affected by the movement."

The way I see it is if there are no cars around I would site the "in the event any other vehicle may be affected by the movement" portion and see if that would help get you off.

my 2 cents

neoduffer · 01-08-2010, 06:07 PM

Or you could always ask for a waived or reduced fine + traffic school.

E90Alex · 01-08-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake2634

how?

I guess I did "a)". I was just going down a long stretch of road and there were absolutely no cars whatsoever. None in front, back, or left or right. It was a major road and i just turned into a residential street without signaling thinking that since theres no cars I wouldn't need to. Right when I turned, I saw the flashing lights of the cop :/. She said she noticed me because my passenger side headlight was out. And something about she was doing traffic that night so she HAD to cite me for not signaling.

thanks

so I actually studied a case like that recently in my AJ class. If there are no cars around you dont have to signal. You should definitely fight it. The case I went over, the officer truly believed that you have to signal even if there are no cars around, but that is not true. If there were no cars around you, you should not have been cited.

E90Alex · 01-08-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by E90Alex

so I actually studied a case like that recently in my AJ class. If there are no cars around you dont have to signal. You should definitely fight it. The case I went over, the officer truly believed that you have to signal even if there are no cars around, but that is not true. If there were no cars around you, you should not have been cited.

and in that case, the person fought the ticket and won

Z22Z · 01-09-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by E90Alex

so I actually studied a case like that recently in my AJ class. If there are no cars around you dont have to signal. You should definitely fight it. The case I went over, the officer truly believed that you have to signal even if there are no cars around, but that is not true. If there were no cars around you, you should not have been cited.

my question is can the cop claim that they could have been affected?

chromisdesigns · 01-09-2010, 04:39 PM

Obviously, there was at least ONE car around -- the cop was driving it, eh?

SolidSnake2634 · 01-09-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chromisdesigns

Obviously, there was at least ONE car around -- the cop was driving it, eh?

well yeah but she was hiding :/

RUS0628 · 01-09-2010, 07:49 PM

Fuck the cops

TXSurfer · 01-09-2010, 08:08 PM

I have seen a ton of cops not signal here thats jacked up fight it.

SolidSnake2634 · 01-10-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TXSurfer

I have seen a ton of cops not signal here thats jacked up fight it.

yeah but then again the cops are exempt. so they can pretty much do whatever they want. i noticed that she didn't even signal when she pulled me over -_-

SolidSnake2634 · 01-10-2010, 08:02 PM

and yeah im gonna do written trial. screw that BS ticket. ugh.

UncleWede · 01-11-2010, 10:17 AM

Snake is betting on the cop not showing up since he did violate 22107 if he did A or B, (in rough layman terms).

Snake, no fix-it for the headlight being out??????

E92-Lighting · 01-11-2010, 11:52 AM

definitely fight this ticket no matter what

t0eknee_C · 01-11-2010, 12:14 PM

I used ticket assasin.. I won.. I have another ticket to take care of by Feb... shit i shoulda saved all the files they sent me.. it was some step by step procedure, all I had to do was fill in my situation and dates and it was done

aznshrek88 · 01-11-2010, 09:07 PM

FIght any cop who says they HAVE to give you a ticket; that's total BS.

SolidSnake2634 · 01-11-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by UncleWede

Snake is betting on the cop not showing up since he did violate 22107 if he did A or B, (in rough layman terms).

Snake, no fix-it for the headlight being out??????

nope. i didnt get a ticket for the headlight. i told her i was gonna replace the bulb the next day(i did cause i ordered it the day before). so yeah i only got a ticket for unsafe turn and not signaling

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UncleWede Long Time Admirer, First Time Owner 18031 Rep 9,378 Posts Drives: G01 X3 M40i Dark Graphite Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oxnard, CA iTrader: (0)	Fairly simple question: did you a) leave your current lane without your turn signal blinking b) make somebody speed up, swerve, slow down, or stop by your change of lane even if your signal was on? If you answered yes to either of those, and an officer saw you, then you are betting on getting the officer to forget or not show up. You don't really need to pay any money to discover that. No, I haven't used ticket assassin myself, and have been to traffic school twice in 27 years of driving.
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Samuel L Jackson Private First Class 8 Rep 179 Posts Drives: 328i Coupe Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: LA County iTrader: (0)	Ticket Assassin is a scam, I wasted money on it. Just do a written trial, if cop responds, do a trial de novo, if cop shows up change plea to guilty and get traffic school. Consult lawyer, I've written about this somewhere here before in more detail. Do a search.
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neoduffer Fast In, Slow Out 40 Rep 586 Posts Drives: 06 E90 330i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SoCal, SGV iTrader: (5) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	That was pretty petty of the cop to write you up for that. Anyways... VC 22107 states: "22107. No person shall turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a roadway until such movement can be made with reasonable safety and then only after the giving of an appropriate signal in the manner provided in this chapter in the event any other vehicle may be affected by the movement." The way I see it is if there are no cars around I would site the "in the event any other vehicle may be affected by the movement" portion and see if that would help get you off. my 2 cents __________________ : Ken
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neoduffer Fast In, Slow Out 40 Rep 586 Posts Drives: 06 E90 330i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SoCal, SGV iTrader: (5) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Or you could always ask for a waived or reduced fine + traffic school. __________________ : Ken
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chromisdesigns Lieutenant Colonel 45 Rep 1,754 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 335i sedan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	Obviously, there was at least ONE car around -- the cop was driving it, eh?
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SolidSnake2634 cantoguy 203 Rep 11,115 Posts Drives: LSB E46 M3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Arcadia, California iTrader: (3) Garage List 2001 BMW M3 [6.06]	and yeah im gonna do written trial. screw that BS ticket. ugh.
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UncleWede Long Time Admirer, First Time Owner 18031 Rep 9,378 Posts Drives: G01 X3 M40i Dark Graphite Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oxnard, CA iTrader: (0)	Snake is betting on the cop not showing up since he did violate 22107 if he did A or B, (in rough layman terms). Snake, no fix-it for the headlight being out??????
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aznshrek88 Lieutenant 70 Rep 511 Posts Drives: 2007 328i SG Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (1)	FIght any cop who says they HAVE to give you a ticket; that's total BS.
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