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      07-06-2009, 09:31 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Vishnu Procede CHRISTMAS SPECIAL

Hi All,

I just wanted to introduce myself here as effectively Vishnu Australia. I have been working with Vishnu for many years as I am involved with the development of the product, but just recently I have decided to get some stock of the product and support the local Australian market with the product. As such, I have alot of product knowledge for support, and I can get you a product to your door in Australia very quickly. I can preload units with latest firmware and maps for your setup, and if in Sydney, I can also install for free.

Prices are pretty much the same as Vishnu America, but you save alot of delivery cost, and alot of waiting time. So currently the price is $1500 (inc GST) + delivery (this is based on AU$ of 0.80).

UPDATE - For December only - $1250 inc GST including install by Andrew@SouthernBM in Melbourne or myself in Sydney, or free delivery to anywhere else in Australia.

UPDATE 2-

Happy New Years (2011)!!

Just a quick note that I will be offering reduced prices starting today. There is a reduction in the price of the N54 tune, and an introductory price for the N55. As always, my price includes GST and either the install or postage. Many people can testify to the support I offer around the clock as required.

Oh, one other thing. In the USA a lower price enthusiast version is available. I have decided at this time to not offer this low cost version. This may change in future, but for the time being, it is too much overhead for me to manage the handling of unlock codes etc. So at this stage, I will only be selling the Professional full featured versions. I could be convinced otherwise if the demand is there, but most of my customer base I have spoken to have not been interested in losing capability/features to save a couple hundred $$.

So now to the pricing:

* N54 Professional version - Reduced from $1250 to $1150 (inc GST)
* N55 Professional version - Introductory price of $1050 (inc GST)


Update 3-

Due to the Australian dollar finding some traction and sitting above the USD for some time, I have decided to reduce the price of both N54 and N55 Procede. The Introductory price for the N55 is now over, and N54 and N55 are now the same price, but the good news is that they are both the same price as the old introductory price for N55. I am also adding the meth kit pricing:

* N54 Procede Professional version - $1050 inc GST and delivery OR install.
* N55 Procede Professional version - $1050 inc GST and delivery OR install.
* PWM Meth Kit (requires charge pipe) - $900 inc GST and delivery.
* Vishnu Charge Pipe (for meth kit) - $375 inc GST and delivery.
* Dual Cone Intake - $175 inc GST and delivery.

Please note that the PWM meth kit requires a Procede to drive it. It cannot be used with other tunes (or stock with no tune). Also note that the meth kit requires an aftermarket charge pipe. The Vishnu charge pipe is manufactured with all the fittings for the meth kit and is the recommended charge pipe, but you can get it to work with other chargepipes that have 2 meth jet bungs.


Also, I have dealers who can supply and fit in all major east coast capital cities. So you can get your Procede installed and dynoed (as well as installation of other parts) from respected BMW workshops in major cities in Australia. Open to interested dealers in other capital cities.

Finally, I have a taste test offer. You are welcome to try the Procede for up to 1 week free of obligation to purchase if you are genuinely shopping for a tune. This is currently offered by Andrew@southernBM in Melbourne and myself in Sydney.

Cheers,

Adrian

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      07-11-2009, 01:01 AM   #2
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If anyone in brisbane is interested I can take you for a spin in my 335i or help you install one in yours. The procede is definately the most innovative and advanced tune out there with the performance to back it up.
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Hi Guys,

I have just received some more stock of Procedes, and I am wanting to move them. Until now I have been offering them for $1500 supply only, but I am going to offer them for $1495 fitted in Sydney, and Andrew from Southern BM will do the same deal in Melbourne.

In addition, I am willing to do a taste test. If you are unsure about the Procede and would like to try one, I can loan one to you for one week. You can try it and decide whether to remove or pay for it at the end of the week.

We know that our product speaks for itself!!

New features added recently include dataloggin of oil temps, and engine oil temp safety control. The Procede monitors the oil temp and will turn down the boost to keep oil temps in check. This includes when oil temps are cold or hot. New feature coming soon... map switching from dash buttons without the need for keyfob.

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      11-24-2009, 05:37 PM   #4
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Hey, I would like to get one, but I can buy one delivered for $AU 1,100 from p3car.com
$400 saving is too hard to pass over.
Is it because the dollar is now stronger?
You would think that a local authorised distributor could be able to match the OS price, or at least be within 10%.
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      11-24-2009, 10:39 PM   #6
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Hey, I would like to get one, but I can buy one delivered for $AU 1,100 from p3car.com
$400 saving is too hard to pass over.
Is it because the dollar is now stronger?
You would think that a local authorised distributor could be able to match the OS price, or at least be within 10%.
Hi jp330Cic.au,

My prices are still set from when the dollar was around low 0.80s. Unfortunately I payed for my stock when the dollar was at this price but that is my problem not yours. I may have to adjust my prices accordingly for the increase in currency. I had been waiting to see if the currency stabalised higher and it does seems as though it is.

However, I need to point out a few points that may go some way to explaining why I am more expensive.

Firstly, I am a legitimate business with an ABN registered for GST. Therefore I must add 10% GST onto my sale price. If the customer is also a GST registered business, they can claim back the GST. Legally if you buy from p3cars.com, you will also be charged GST, as goods over AU$1000 (which this is) incur GST on entry into Australia. There are illegal ways of getting around this, but I do not condone such things.

Secondly, I am not just an internet shop who buys, and sells at a profit with no support. Many of the units I have sold I have also installed at no extra cost. Those I have not installed I have shipped overnight at no extra charge. In addition, short of shiv@vishnu, I am the most knowledgable support person for this product you will find. I provide round the clock support for my customers and an update service. I am sure my customers here can provide testiment to the quality of my support. Please also consider that the US timezone will make it difficult for you to get support when you need it.

Anyway, please PM me if you wish to negotiate a price with me, but unfortunately I would not be able to match p3cars price, so if you are shopping for cheapest price and not worried about other aspects of customer service, you are best to go with p3cars.

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I will talk to Andrew at Southern about it
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Hey, I would like to get one, but I can buy one delivered for $AU 1,100 from p3car.com
$400 saving is too hard to pass over.
Is it because the dollar is now stronger?
You would think that a local authorised distributor could be able to match the OS price, or at least be within 10%.
I'll talk from personal experience here regarding service and Procede in Aus.

When I got mine there was 3 other users in NSW, so I was an early adopter.

I've organized multiple group buys for Aussies of various upgrades of the procede platform and installed, trouble shooted, removed, reloaded software / firmware of dozens of this tune over the past few years. I remember helping Adrian install his procede when he got his 135

I purchased from Shiv in the US, prompt service etc. Now I never really had any issues with the tune but on the odd occasion I had a question it would take ages to get an answer, and ages when your presented with a 1/2 engine light or worse is anything more than a few minutes. Keep in mind my 335 is my most expensive car ever, like many of us, so when it has an issue that may be related to what i have done it makes me nervous. I like it when someone answers the phone to talk through the issue.

Case in point I remember the anal sphincter tightening feeling when my HPFP died, car had an x-mas tree of lights and there i was in Australia without anyone locally to help me, and Shiv took ages to answer my multiple emails... hide of the bastard . How would you respond / feel if you got a fault code on your car? How quickly would you want to be able to resolve it?


I've dealt with Ric from P3 cars before P3 existed, in fact I sent him a RHD vent so he could develop his boost guage for RHD applications 2 years ago and was rewarded with serial number 001 of the RHD gauges. He's a top guy and I would not hesitate to recommend his company to people on this side of the pond.


Likewise I met Adrian, through Shiv, when he was developing the canbus aspects of the tune as he lives locally to me. Adrian is intimately involved with the development of the Procede, you wont find anyone IMHO that knows more about the hardware than him.

Adrian decided to start retailing the tune in Aus, and teamed up with Andrew in Victoria - this IMHO was the best development of the Procede that could have occurred. There is a wealth of knowlege in the case of Adrian with regards to the technical aspects of the tune, likewise Andrew is IMHO (and i have never met him personally) one of the most technically savvy BMW specialists you're likely to come across. Both of them are more than happy to talk through issues and give you a hand when your trying to troubleshoot.

So you may pay a few $ less purchasing from O/S, however if we don't support local suppliers (even at a slightly higher price) then we will loose that support and be at the mercy of someone at an email address somewhere miles away with only the trust they will answer our question in a time frame that suits ourselves.

FYI in terms of importing a Procede from the USA you will be up for GST and import duty. Import duty applies to car parts that are not 100% manufactured in the USA, despite our FTA with the US, so a 10% differential isn't really a true comparison.

Add in local technical support, free installation (depending on where you are) and it quickly means a few extra $ saved on the purchase price could fast be eroded by the value add of purchasing locally.

Besides if we don't by Procede's from Adrian and Andrew then they may go on the dole, thus giving K Rudd a reason to raise our taxes. As responsible BMW owners we can't have that now can we

Just my 0.02 c worth.
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I would have to agree that we have to do what we can to support local suppliers who add value.
When I do my calc's adding GST and exchange rate fees (you actually don't get .93 when you do a credit card transaction) there isn't so much in it.
On a $100k plus car, does $100 really matter?
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Hi All,

I have just editted the first post in this thread to include our christmas special:

For the month of December you can get the latest version of Procede (same hardware as we have been selling since early this year, but with latest firmware and maps which are also available as a free upgrade to existing customers), for $1250 inc GST. This includes installation at no extra cost by myself in Sydney or Andrew@SouthernBM in Melbourne (contact me about dealers in other areas I may be able to organise this through), or free delivery for you to install in all other areas in Australia.

In addition, Andrew and I are still offering the taste test: If you are genuinely shopping for a tune and willing to purchase if you are as blown away by our product as we think you will be, you are welcome to try it for a week for free with no obligations. At the end of the taste test you can opt to either have it removed or make payment to keep it in there.

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You can't pass this deal up. (I am not in any way getting paid for this by the way.) It is absolutely the best value for money modification you can make to a 335i. It is so versatile and easy to use. Map swithcing using the DTC button is a great feature along with its data logging capability. This unit allows you to tune your car for max performance with any setup you have. I am telling you, your car will absolutely hammer with one of these compared to stock. Switched back to valet mode (stock) the other day just to measure the diffrence and it felt like I could get out and run faster. Switched the procede back on and the car leaps back into life.

As you can tell by my username I have been into big cubic inch fords my whole life. I tried the BMW brand 7 years ago in the form of an e46 325Ci which is a nice handling car but a bit underpowered. Still have my Ford and the e46. I have driven e46 M3's and wasn't really that impressed to be honest. The procede gives your car a ton of extra torque and power that is usable with out having to wring the living heck out of your engine like an M3 which makes the car easier to drive. Adrian is locally based which is extremely important when it comes to modifying your car and is great to deal with. I have not seen a downside to this purhcase yet. If you havent got one you are seriously missing out.

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Do you also have an intercooler?
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yep, got mine on order from Andrew.
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Hi Adrian,

What kind of numbers are getting now with the V3 on the 135/335's?

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So does V3 mean map 3?
Which map should I run if all I have is catless DP's, intake and intercooler with stock exhaust? - I suspect map 1.
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So does V3 mean map 3?
Which map should I run if all I have is catless DP's, intake and intercooler with stock exhaust? - I suspect map 1.
Quick Procede history:

* V1 was our first variant of Procede. It was released early 07. It did not drive boost solenoids directly and required a solenoid bypass. It was in a plastic box.

* V2 was the same plastic box but with direct driving of solenoids, so a different harness.

* V3 rev 1 was same plastic box with further harness changes to allow better boost control.

* V3 rev 2 is a new alluminium smaller box with same basic connections as V3 rev 1, but a new connector

* V3 rev 2 CAN is the same as above but with two wires added to harness for CAN bus. This has been since early 2009 and no further changes are planned.

Now for a brief summary of map stages:

* Stage 1 is for a stock car or with "light mods". These mods would include any exhaust mods that retain factory down/dump pipes, air filter changes (element or DCI). These mods typically have little effect on power without more extensive mods. Typically 40-50kW increase over stock

* Stage 2 is for mildly modded. The entry point to this stage is typically the down/dump pipes. Typically you would runs this stage if you have decat pipes. You may also have the mods from stage 1. Typically a 60-70kW increase over stock.

* Stage 3 is for decat pipes and FMIC upgrade, and typically by this stage, you would want the rest of the exhaust upgraded, and a good intake system. Typcially an 70-80kW increase over stock.

jp, I would consider running stage 2 or stage 3 with your mods. You really need a full exhaust to take full advantage of stage 3, so stage 2 would be a safer bet if it was me.

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Quick Procede history:

* V1 was our first variant of Procede. It was released early 07. It did not drive boost solenoids directly and required a solenoid bypass. It was in a plastic box.

* V2 was the same plastic box but with direct driving of solenoids, so a different harness.

* V3 rev 1 was same plastic box with further harness changes to allow better boost control.

* V3 rev 2 is a new alluminium smaller box with same basic connections as V3 rev 1, but a new connector

* V3 rev 2 CAN is the same as above but with two wires added to harness for CAN bus. This has been since early 2009 and no further changes are planned.

Now for a brief summary of map stages:

* Stage 1 is for a stock car or with "light mods". These mods would include any exhaust mods that retain factory down/dump pipes, air filter changes (element or DCI). These mods typically have little effect on power without more extensive mods. Typically 40-50kW increase over stock

* Stage 2 is for mildly modded. The entry point to this stage is typically the down/dump pipes. Typically you would runs this stage if you have decat pipes. You may also have the mods from stage 1. Typically a 60-70kW increase over stock.

* Stage 3 is for decat pipes and FMIC upgrade, and typically by this stage, you would want the rest of the exhaust upgraded, and a good intake system. Typcially an 70-80kW increase over stock.

jp, I would consider running stage 2 or stage 3 with your mods. You really need a full exhaust to take full advantage of stage 3, so stage 2 would be a safer bet if it was me.

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where do you advise your customers to go, to have mods such as full exhaust, intercooler etc fitted ? How does the buyer of a procede know the car is running optimal tune, as Im guessing the tune is generic ?

Thanks in advance

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where do you advise your customers to go, to have mods such as full exhaust, intercooler etc fitted ? How does the buyer of a procede know the car is running optimal tune, as Im guessing the tune is generic ?

Thanks in advance

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Hi oz,

I have workshops in East coast capitals that I can recommend for other work. Where abouts are you?

There are ways that are detailed on the Vishnu forum to determine if your car is running correctly. We provide datalogging of DME parameters, and the main thing we are looking for is sudden ignition retard which indicates knock. We then provide user adjustablility for the user to reduce the ignition timing to avoid this. Of course our base maps are conservative, so the user can just use them as is if they wish to be conservative and not have to worry.

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Despite what I said above, the US special price has continued to coincide with the release of V4. Therefore I am continuing to offer my special price of AU$1250 inc GST. If you do the calculation of the US special price converted to Australian dollars with delivery and GST added, you will see that this price is designed to prevent people buying directly from the states and come to me instead!!

This special should run until V4 has been released for a month or two... I would say Mar/Apr.

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This is a good price for the procede v4!

The V4 really is night and day difference, the beast drives like a V8, no kidding.
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This is a good price for the procede v4!

The V4 really is night and day difference, the beast drives like a V8, no kidding.
Of course I am biased, but I have to say the latest stuff (10/2) is the best my car has driven. The first V4 stuff was a step up from the best V3 that we had, but we made a change in the latest firmware (pro4v003) that improved a slight throttle hesitiation at lower throttles in round town driving. Most people didn't notice it anyway, but I did. It is now driving fantastic. The throttle feel is much closer to a direct mechancial linkage than it ever has been, and most people will prefer this as you have much better control of the engine with your right foot.

Of course I am very fussy, and before this latest stuff I thought it was great, but could still pick on that little thing. I cannot find anything to pick on now. I don't think we could make it any better in any way.... and the power is still there as it always has been, but now the the throttle response is much quicker (hits full boost quicker after throttle movement) and more natural (torque output function of pedal position rather than full boost at 50% throttle) so you get the best of both worlds.

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Hey Adrian,
Is it now ready for DCT?
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Hey Adrian,
Is it now ready for DCT?
I believe so, but not yet tested on DCT. DCTs are much rarer than 6MT/6AT. From what I know on one car I have worked on and your reports, the main issues were related to cold start. We have definately made changes in that area (oil temp based performance, so will run like stock when cold). We have also made some changes that will stop some minor throttle hesitations that we discovered. I find the latest maps work great on my 6MT. I would be interested if you don;t mind trying them on your DCT. I should be putting them in another DCT you know about tonight.

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