BMW needs to give the 328 some balls

jpaz70 · 03-13-2009, 06:33 PM

or lower the price. A moderately equipped 328 closes in on $45K fast. For that you get 230hp and 200 ft-lbs of torque. By contrast, a fully loaded Honda Accord V-6 coupe has a base price of around $30K. For that you get 271hp, 251 ft-lbs of torque and 0-60 in 5.6 seconds with a manual. And it doesn't require premium fuel. I know completely different driving experience, badge exclusivity, Blah! Blah! Blah! No matter what the arguement, it's not $15 grand better. There's no reason BMW can't up the 328's performance especially for the price they are asking. Even the X3 which uses essentially the same engine puts out 260hp.

nhhiep · 03-13-2009, 06:36 PM

then why the hell are you still driving a BMW for? sell it and get an Accord/Camry and if you want more hp(bang) for your buck, get a Mustang, or better yet, a Genesis Coupe.

and yeah, a 45k 328i sedan is not moderately equipped, it's fully loaded.

you gonna pay to play. you're driving a luxury German brand.

13N55135i · 03-13-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nhhiep

then why the hell are you still driving a BMW for? sell it and get an Accord/Camry and if you want more hp(bang) for your buck, get a Mustang, or better yet, a Genesis Coupe.

and yeah, a 45k 328i sedan is not moderately equipped, it's fully loaded.

He's gotta a point

dukevi · 03-13-2009, 06:41 PM

ha.... true that... just up for 335i then

Brooklyn · 03-13-2009, 06:53 PM

I got my 328xi pretty much fully loaded for 42k...

Besides, a Honda Accord isnt a BMW...say what you want about the power but your forgetting handling, ride quality, interior styling ect...

What I dont understand is that the 328 is pretty much the same as the 330 performance wise, and when that was their top of the line you certainly werent complaining when you bought yours.

jpsum · 03-13-2009, 07:00 PM

I have to agree. The 328 doesn't feel like an "ultimate driving machine". Too soft, too slow and too quiet.

adl320 · 03-13-2009, 07:41 PM

I shouldn't jump in but...PUUULLEEEAASE! If you are comparing a Honda to a BMW than you shouldn't be looking at a BMW. Everything can be made to look good on paper. The Accord is a damn good car for sure. And for the daily grind and mundane driving tasks it would do perfectly. If you however have more "vigor" and actually drive your car for the drive, you cannot compare. As BMW once said, those that have not driven a BMW just don't understand. If you have and you still don't get it. You're right, save your money and buy an Accord.

Aaron

nicknaz · 03-13-2009, 07:42 PM

You should check out G37s if feature content vs price is important to you. You can get one fully loaded for like 37k these days

Zirenz2006 · 03-13-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by adl320

I shouldn't jump in but...PUUULLEEEAASE! If you are comparing a Honda to a BMW than you shouldn't be looking at a BMW. Everything can be made to look good on paper. The Accord is a damn good car for sure. And for the daily grind and mundane driving tasks it would do perfectly. If you however have more "vigor" and actually drive your car for the drive, you cannot compare. As BMW once said, those that have not driven a BMW just don't understand. If you have and you still don't get it. You're right, save your money and buy an Accord.

Aaron

that about sums it up

MCMLXXXIX · 03-13-2009, 07:49 PM

i dont have a problem with the 328. never driven one but ive had a 325i and i was absolutely amazed with it. theres no way id get a honda over a 328

jonathan08 · 03-13-2009, 07:50 PM

I don't find the 328i too slow. My sister has a fully loaded V-6 2006 Hyundai Sonata with 237hp. That thing feels like a dog compared to the 328i. 230hp sounds weak, but the power delivery on the 328i is just so crisp and responsive. I came from an 02 M3 and for real world power I think the 328i does fine.

mmm def · 03-13-2009, 08:16 PM

on paper /= on the road. A fine car the Accord is, but it is no BMW.

methodtim · 03-13-2009, 08:19 PM

I read the first three sentences of the OP and I can already tell this thread is full of fail. Have fun and play nice now, ya hear?

Oh, ok, you don't really have to play nice.

oilcrankinject · 03-13-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dukevi

ha.... true that... just up for 335i then

Yea you say a 328i slow stop bitching and get a 335i.

ejazbmw · 03-13-2009, 08:38 PM

why would they look at audi's A4 2.0L now that is over priced.....

Michael Schott · 03-13-2009, 08:45 PM

I don't even know what to say. If all out speed is most important to you, get a Chevy Cobalt with the turbo engine.

Also, my moderately equipped 328i e90 retailed for less than $38K. For $42K that is not a moderately equipped 328.

Thanks, Mike.

Saintor · 03-13-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jpaz70

or lower the price. A moderately equipped 328 closes in on $45K fast. For that you get 230hp and 200 ft-lbs of torque. By contrast, a fully loaded Honda Accord V-6 coupe has a base price of around $30K. For that you get 271hp, 251 ft-lbs of torque and 0-60 in 5.6 seconds with a manual. And it doesn't require premium fuel. I know completely different driving experience, badge exclusivity, Blah! Blah! Blah! No matter what the arguement, it's not $15 grand better. There's no reason BMW can't up the 328's performance especially for the price they are asking. Even the X3 which uses essentially the same engine puts out 260hp.

Not quite the same engine (rather the 330i engine with the3-stage intake) but in general I am with you 100%.

demosthenes · 03-13-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jpaz70

or lower the price. A moderately equipped 328 closes in on $45K fast. For that you get 230hp and 200 ft-lbs of torque. By contrast, a fully loaded Honda Accord V-6 coupe has a base price of around $30K. For that you get 271hp, 251 ft-lbs of torque and 0-60 in 5.6 seconds with a manual. And it doesn't require premium fuel. I know completely different driving experience, badge exclusivity, Blah! Blah! Blah! No matter what the arguement, it's not $15 grand better. There's no reason BMW can't up the 328's performance especially for the price they are asking. Even the X3 which uses essentially the same engine puts out 260hp.

I've owned many Accords, a TL, a few BMW's and a couple of Benz's. My 328 is by far the best car of the bunch.

The 328 with ZSP is one of the best handling sports sedans made. Don't take my word for it - almost every car magazine says the same thing. With a 6MT, the 328 does 0-60 in 6.1 according to C&D. The E36 M3 wasn't much quicker and you had to rev it to get the power.

The 328 is a great value FOR ENTHUSIASTS - people that like a firm ride, look forward to winding roads and like to drive fast. For those that want more power, the 335 is even better. Honda Accords are great cars compared to most, but they aren't in the same league as the 328.

blue2fire · 03-13-2009, 09:00 PM

Just get a 335i without a lot of options, that is what i would do instead of posting and getting flamed here.

ToadHollow · 03-13-2009, 09:09 PM

BMW needs to give the 328 some balls

So what ............ the 328's have vaginas??

openwheelracing · 03-13-2009, 09:17 PM

Not fair though, the Accord is one hell of a car...

However, I'll take my 328i over my Accord any day. Yes I have both.

Hedges · 03-13-2009, 09:27 PM

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i dont have a problem with the 328. never driven one but ive had a 325i and i was absolutely amazed with it. theres no way id get a honda over a 328

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nhhiep Captain 88 Rep 863 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0)	then why the hell are you still driving a BMW for? sell it and get an Accord/Camry and if you want more hp(bang) for your buck, get a Mustang, or better yet, a Genesis Coupe. and yeah, a 45k 328i sedan is not moderately equipped, it's fully loaded. you gonna pay to play. you're driving a luxury German brand.
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Brooklyn Private First Class 6 Rep 131 Posts Drives: Slow as a turtle. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LI, New York iTrader: (0)	I got my 328xi pretty much fully loaded for 42k... Besides, a Honda Accord isnt a BMW...say what you want about the power but your forgetting handling, ride quality, interior styling ect... What I dont understand is that the 328 is pretty much the same as the 330 performance wise, and when that was their top of the line you certainly werent complaining when you bought yours.
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jpsum Major 274 Rep 1,088 Posts Drives: 2010 TSX Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Haven area iTrader: (4)	I have to agree. The 328 doesn't feel like an "ultimate driving machine". Too soft, too slow and too quiet.
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adl320 Private First Class 6 Rep 158 Posts Drives: '91 E34 M5 Dinan Stroker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (0)	I shouldn't jump in but...PUUULLEEEAASE! If you are comparing a Honda to a BMW than you shouldn't be looking at a BMW. Everything can be made to look good on paper. The Accord is a damn good car for sure. And for the daily grind and mundane driving tasks it would do perfectly. If you however have more "vigor" and actually drive your car for the drive, you cannot compare. As BMW once said, those that have not driven a BMW just don't understand. If you have and you still don't get it. You're right, save your money and buy an Accord. Aaron __________________ '91 E34 M5 Dinan 3.6 Stroker, Tune, Exhaust, Sways
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MCMLXXXIX wat 235 Rep 3,406 Posts Drives: a gr3at whit3 5hark Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oct 2008 iTrader: (0)	i dont have a problem with the 328. never driven one but ive had a 325i and i was absolutely amazed with it. theres no way id get a honda over a 328 __________________ 2012 Toyota Highlander SE - PAST - 2008 e92 335i, 2006 e90 325i
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mmm def Colonel 144 Rep 2,610 Posts Drives: 21 330, 19 ND2 RF, 11 RX350 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	on paper /= on the road. A fine car the Accord is, but it is no BMW.
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Michael Schott Colonel 343 Rep 2,118 Posts Drives: 2017 VW GTI Sport Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Farmington Hills, MI iTrader: (0)	I don't even know what to say. If all out speed is most important to you, get a Chevy Cobalt with the turbo engine. Also, my moderately equipped 328i e90 retailed for less than $38K. For $42K that is not a moderately equipped 328. Thanks, Mike.
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openwheelracing Captain 192 Rep 814 Posts Drives: 5 different 3 Series Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Santa Barbara, CA iTrader: (0)	Not fair though, the Accord is one hell of a car... However, I'll take my 328i over my Accord any day. Yes I have both.
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