POLL: Where Are You On The Waiting List

1ster · 09-09-2007, 12:58 PM

Thought it might be fun to see just how OCD our little group of addicts really is... :respekt:

joelk · 09-09-2007, 02:03 PM

lol true. i'm behind the dealer demo car and one other person ... so i guess that means i'm 2nd. placed my order in July.

imported_MPower · 09-09-2007, 02:09 PM

I would never put money down for a car I have never seen, sat in, or driven. Plus, no matter how good the car is, I wont take a bad deal on it which is probably what the first few months of sales will be like.

atr_hugo · 09-09-2007, 02:19 PM

MPower is correct-a-mundo - sorry guys, there hasn't been anything (zip, zero, nilch, nada, nothing) written about the driving dynamics by anyone we've been able to locate that is independent of BMW. And lord knows we've all surfed and googled (BMW 1 coupe road test, BMW 135 review, BMW 135 coupe driving impressions, etc, etc, etc . . . ; -).

joelk · 09-09-2007, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atr_hugo

MPower is correct-a-mundo - sorry guys, there hasn't been anything (zip, zero, nilch, nada, nothing) written about the driving dynamics by anyone we've been able to locate that is independent of BMW. And lord knows we've all surfed and googled (BMW 1 coupe road test, BMW 135 review, BMW 135 coupe driving impressions, etc, etc, etc . . . ; -).

true true but if the reviews come back -ve i'll just get a 335i instead or refund... no big deal to me except the time-value lost in my deposit. there's plenty of time between now and then to digest the reviews and given my personal car-purchase schedule the deposit is worth keeping a place in line.

Brookside · 09-09-2007, 03:42 PM

I'm somewhere in between you guys. I've told the dealer I'm getting one- want to have one of the first but I'm waiting
(even tho I'm 99% sure the base 135'll be high-34k) before I plunk down loot.
But, I do think by late Oct/early November, probably a bit before we know the price for sure I'll put a deposit down.

If not sooner!
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1ster · 09-09-2007, 04:51 PM

Meh. We'll have European reviews in a month or two -- well before any orders will need to be placed. I trust CAR and, especially, EVO more than I trust any American car magazine. If their reviews are tepid, I'll ask for my deposit back. If they give it a ringing endorsement, then I will be

until March!

And it's not like we know nothing about this car. 1-Series hatches have been the subject of numerous comparison tests. And the 135i's bi-turbo motor is world renowned. Let's just say the odds are good that this car will be a corker.

Regardless, the refundable deposit seems like a no-lose proposition. :iono:

NC · 09-09-2007, 05:43 PM

I have to agree with MPower and others that a test drive and a close up look is needed before a financial commitment, (although the car does look very promising).

I am probably stating the obvious, but having never been in a "buy the first one off the line" situation, I guess you pretty much tell the dealer your options and they ring it up for you - no haggling, thank you. The key to any negotiation is being able to walk away from the deal but with early adopters if you don't buy it someone else will in the next 10 minutes. May be a dumb observation but are you able to deal at all in this situation?

Smokey · 09-09-2007, 06:30 PM

I have placed a deposit and I am number 2 on the list. I haven't driven the car, but I am a current bmw owner, so I expect this car to be just as good as my 330ci. There is nothing that stops me from getting my deposit back since it is refundable. So, if I drive the car and am not impressed, then I will get my money back. Furthermore, there is nothing that stops me from walking away from the dealership if I don't like the deal or negotiation. Thus, there is nothing wrong with leaving a deposit on the car before driving it or reading the reviews. In fact, I don't care too much about the magazine reviews, since I am the person who is going to own and enjoy the car. So my review is the review that matters.

WolfsburgerMitFries · 09-09-2007, 06:39 PM

Uh....nowhere. There's no pricing or options list available for the US market at this point in time which would enable you to make an informed purchase. There's no feel for the size and fit of the car until you sit down in one and drive it. And 1st year cars always have quality issues, particularly at the beginning. During the first year of production on a new car there is likely to be weekly updates to the assembly process. This isn't a metrosexual rush to be the first one with the hip fashions for the season...its a car, its a complicated assembly and it takes time to refine it, like it or not. Have fun being first in line, and being the guinea pig for all the startup gremlins. I need a bit more factual information and real world shakedown to commit to a mid-30K purchase.

mikeo · 09-09-2007, 07:09 PM

Aaah, Wolfie, don't be a logical spoil-sport. We are supposed to be emotion crazed, bleeding edge, early adopters here! (tongue firmly planted in cheek!)

WolfsburgerMitFries · 09-09-2007, 07:14 PM

Sorry for being too pragmatic. I'm long overdue for a new car, and the wait is wearing me out too, but I've seen and experienced too much downside in the early adoptor position and have learned to avoid it. In a car, you pay full retail for an unrefined product, its a bad bet.

Brookside · 09-09-2007, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfsburgerMitFries

In a car, you pay full retail for an unrefined product, its a bad bet.

Huh?

N54 has been rigorously tested and now in the 3 and 5 (current 2008) series production. Revised fuel pump is in engines for 6 mos.
And even that was a somewhat false scare mostly attributed to chuckleheads in the U.S. pouring ethanol-mixes and
low octane/cheapo detergent gas into their fuel tanks.

The hatch has been out since 2003. And updated in 2007 models
with some suspension tweaks, new headlights.
This is not an "unrefined product".
This is not a model that hasn't gone thru scrutiny and massaging.

I do not understand the early adopter scare tactic.
The only thing that might be scary is the price tag which I suspect is another false alarm.

If you are worried about how the 1-er chassis handles the N54 then you can get the N52 and save yourself thousands.
There may be a glitch or two in the first cars off the assembly lines (which will very likely be caught in the first batch of Euro-models)
I am not worried about "unrefined". By the time the 1-er gets here it really should be on par with BMW standards. They are not going to blow this one.

There is too much at stake as the car goes into ownership of a certain percentage of people who (likely) have never owned a bimmer or even a German automobile and expect the thing to run with the (uneventful) precision of a refrigerator/Japanese brand automobile.

GreenMonster · 09-09-2007, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPower

I would never put money down for a car I have never seen, sat in, or driven. Plus, no matter how good the car is, I wont take a bad deal on it which is probably what the first few months of sales will be like.

Agreed...

I'll probably wait till all the hoopla dies down and prices come down from msrp... even if it means getting a 2009...

Heck, I don't even know if I am even serious about buying a 1-series until I see official US pricing... I definitely won't buy a car I haven't driven, and think it's foolish to be on a list for a car that I don't even know what the final cost will be...

chessie1629 · 09-09-2007, 08:53 PM

I plan on taking euro delivery in July next year. I don't think I will need to get in line for that.

mikeo · 09-09-2007, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chessie1629

I plan on taking euro delivery in July next year. I don't think I will need to get in line for that.

That's right, ED cars do not come out of the dealer's allotment.

InsaneSkippy · 09-09-2007, 10:59 PM

I'm one of the top 3 (I was third on the list but was the only one with a deposit down.)

However, the possibility of Euro Delivery excites me.

BMWeber · 09-12-2007, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPower

I would never put money down for a car I have never seen, sat in, or driven. Plus, no matter how good the car is, I wont take a bad deal on it which is probably what the first few months of sales will be like.

well if you have a decent dealer you can get on the waiting list for no cost and they don't charge over list. being a true BMW fanatic I know I'm going to love it and my sales guy just got to sit in one a couple weeks ago so I grilled him on it a bit

toosteeley · 09-13-2007, 10:26 AM

Not on the list yet.

Don't see a point before official Canadian pricing is released at the very least.

Imola.ZHP · 09-13-2007, 11:04 AM

I dont pay retail, therefore I dont get on waiting lists...

Wait, I guess I did wait for an `02 RSX-S in `01, but I still didnt pay retail, and the $500 deposit was refundable if I didnt like the test drive...

I did pretty much buy my ZHP without see'ing it. Just pictures on the internet, agreed on a price, approved for financing, hitched a ride to Dallas and signed after a test drive...

Khobin~ · 09-13-2007, 11:19 AM

Last night we drove over to Bavaria for an appointment we had, the guy was doing a delivery so we sat down for a few minutes, during which he gave us a toy car (Z3) for the boy to play with.

After he finished up he went over some the information he had and since I had never driven a bmw before, he let me take a 328i for a drive.

It was nice ride, decent power, solid feeling, quiet on the hwy, comfortable seats(leatherette), the only downside was he only had an Auto so I didn't get to check out the the 6 spd.

The biggest difference I noticed from the XR and the Galant was that altough the steering felt heavier, it felt like you were in this safe little capsule and it just felt like a quality product.

All-in-all it feels weird to have put down a deposit on a vehicle I haven't even seen in person yet, but at the same time it makes me excited to know that I'm 1 step closer to putting one in my garage...too bad that means that there won't be room for the XR anymore though...

Now it's just to wait for BMW to release pricing and let me know If I'll be taking back that deposit, or trying to sell a car in the spring

:iono:

Khobin~ · 09-14-2007, 03:54 PM

So I just got an e-mail from Edmonton BMW yesterday saying that they currently don't have anyone on their list yet for the 128i.

So if anyone wants to be #1....:thumbup:

As for the deposit there, it's $1000, but I've gotten different responses from different salespeople as to whether it's refundable or not:iono:

View Poll Results: Are you on a dealer's waiting list? If so, where are you in line?
#1, woot!	18	21.18%
#2-4	9	10.59%
#5-7	7	8.24%
I plan on getting on a waiting list but I'm not yet	9	10.59%
Waiting lists are unnecessary, this is a mass production car	31	36.47%
I'm not sure if I'm buying a 1-Series yet, so no	11	12.94%
Voters: 85. You may not vote on this poll

09-09-2007, 12:58 PM	#1
1ster Large Member 164 Rep 937 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2007 iTrader: (0)	POLL: Where Are You On The Waiting List Thought it might be fun to see just how OCD our little group of addicts really is... :respekt:
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09-09-2007, 02:03 PM	#2
joelk Lieutenant Colonel 37 Rep 1,680 Posts Drives: Space Gray E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	lol true. i'm behind the dealer demo car and one other person ... so i guess that means i'm 2nd. placed my order in July.
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09-09-2007, 02:09 PM	#3
imported_MPower Zoom Zoom 38 Rep 1,069 Posts Drives: 2022 M3 6MT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	I would never put money down for a car I have never seen, sat in, or driven. Plus, no matter how good the car is, I wont take a bad deal on it which is probably what the first few months of sales will be like. __________________ In the garage: 2022 G80 M3 Manual - Portimao Blue
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09-09-2007, 02:19 PM	#4
atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	MPower is correct-a-mundo - sorry guys, there hasn't been anything (zip, zero, nilch, nada, nothing) written about the driving dynamics by anyone we've been able to locate that is independent of BMW. And lord knows we've all surfed and googled (BMW 1 coupe road test, BMW 135 review, BMW 135 coupe driving impressions, etc, etc, etc . . . ; -).
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09-09-2007, 03:42 PM	#6
Brookside Major 244 Rep 1,136 Posts Drives: 2016 228i M-Sport Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: KCMO iTrader: (0)	I'm somewhere in between you guys. I've told the dealer I'm getting one- want to have one of the first but I'm waiting (even tho I'm 99% sure the base 135'll be high-34k) before I plunk down loot. But, I do think by late Oct/early November, probably a bit before we know the price for sure I'll put a deposit down. If not sooner! :biggrin::biggrin::roundel::roundel:
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09-09-2007, 04:51 PM	#7
1ster Large Member 164 Rep 937 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2007 iTrader: (0)	Meh. We'll have European reviews in a month or two -- well before any orders will need to be placed. I trust CAR and, especially, EVO more than I trust any American car magazine. If their reviews are tepid, I'll ask for my deposit back. If they give it a ringing endorsement, then I will be until March! And it's not like we know nothing about this car. 1-Series hatches have been the subject of numerous comparison tests. And the 135i's bi-turbo motor is world renowned. Let's just say the odds are good that this car will be a corker. Regardless, the refundable deposit seems like a no-lose proposition. :iono:
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09-09-2007, 05:43 PM	#8
NC Private 2 Rep 90 Posts Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	The Waiting is the Hardest Part I have to agree with MPower and others that a test drive and a close up look is needed before a financial commitment, (although the car does look very promising). I am probably stating the obvious, but having never been in a "buy the first one off the line" situation, I guess you pretty much tell the dealer your options and they ring it up for you - no haggling, thank you. The key to any negotiation is being able to walk away from the deal but with early adopters if you don't buy it someone else will in the next 10 minutes. May be a dumb observation but are you able to deal at all in this situation?
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09-09-2007, 06:30 PM	#9
Smokey Lucky Lefty 45 Rep 746 Posts Drives: on twisty roads Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: * iTrader: (0) Garage List 2019 BMW M2 Comp [0.00] 2017 Porsche Macan GTS [8.00] 2011 M3 [10.00] 2013 bmw F25 msport [10.00] 2011 335iS [9.60]	I have placed a deposit and I am number 2 on the list. I haven't driven the car, but I am a current bmw owner, so I expect this car to be just as good as my 330ci. There is nothing that stops me from getting my deposit back since it is refundable. So, if I drive the car and am not impressed, then I will get my money back. Furthermore, there is nothing that stops me from walking away from the dealership if I don't like the deal or negotiation. Thus, there is nothing wrong with leaving a deposit on the car before driving it or reading the reviews. In fact, I don't care too much about the magazine reviews, since I am the person who is going to own and enjoy the car. So my review is the review that matters.
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09-09-2007, 06:39 PM	#10
WolfsburgerMitFries Lieutenant 12 Rep 445 Posts Drives: BMW 3er Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lexington, KY iTrader: (0)	Uh....nowhere. There's no pricing or options list available for the US market at this point in time which would enable you to make an informed purchase. There's no feel for the size and fit of the car until you sit down in one and drive it. And 1st year cars always have quality issues, particularly at the beginning. During the first year of production on a new car there is likely to be weekly updates to the assembly process. This isn't a metrosexual rush to be the first one with the hip fashions for the season...its a car, its a complicated assembly and it takes time to refine it, like it or not. Have fun being first in line, and being the guinea pig for all the startup gremlins. I need a bit more factual information and real world shakedown to commit to a mid-30K purchase.
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09-09-2007, 07:09 PM	#11
mikeo Santa Fe Concorso 103 Rep 2,984 Posts Drives: '11 M-sport 328i, '13 X1 28i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM iTrader: (3)	Aaah, Wolfie, don't be a logical spoil-sport. We are supposed to be emotion crazed, bleeding edge, early adopters here! (tongue firmly planted in cheek!) __________________ Santa Fe Concorso - The Southwest's Premier Automotive Gathering.
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09-09-2007, 07:14 PM	#12
WolfsburgerMitFries Lieutenant 12 Rep 445 Posts Drives: BMW 3er Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lexington, KY iTrader: (0)	Sorry for being too pragmatic. I'm long overdue for a new car, and the wait is wearing me out too, but I've seen and experienced too much downside in the early adoptor position and have learned to avoid it. In a car, you pay full retail for an unrefined product, its a bad bet.
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09-09-2007, 08:53 PM	#15
chessie1629 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 42 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jul 2007 iTrader: (0)	Euro delivery I plan on taking euro delivery in July next year. I don't think I will need to get in line for that.
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09-09-2007, 10:59 PM	#17
InsaneSkippy Lieutenant Colonel 79 Rep 1,597 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida iTrader: (1)	I'm one of the top 3 (I was third on the list but was the only one with a deposit down.) However, the possibility of Euro Delivery excites me. __________________
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09-13-2007, 10:26 AM	#19
toosteeley Private First Class 1 Rep 107 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Not on the list yet. Don't see a point before official Canadian pricing is released at the very least.
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09-13-2007, 11:04 AM	#20
Imola.ZHP Colonel 129 Rep 2,218 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW i3 BEV EE Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mud Island, TN iTrader: (0)	I dont pay retail, therefore I dont get on waiting lists... Wait, I guess I did wait for an `02 RSX-S in `01, but I still didnt pay retail, and the $500 deposit was refundable if I didnt like the test drive... I did pretty much buy my ZHP without see'ing it. Just pictures on the internet, agreed on a price, approved for financing, hitched a ride to Dallas and signed after a test drive... __________________ - 2014 CPO i01 BEV Electronaut Edition Capparis White Tera World, '17- - 2015 CPO i01 BEV Laurel Grey Tera World, '17- - 2015 i01 REx Laurel Grey Tera World, '15-'17 - 2003 CPO 330i ZHP Imola Red Build 03/03/03, '06-'15
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09-13-2007, 11:19 AM	#21
Khobin~ First Lieutenant 14 Rep 312 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2007 iTrader: (0)	Last night we drove over to Bavaria for an appointment we had, the guy was doing a delivery so we sat down for a few minutes, during which he gave us a toy car (Z3) for the boy to play with. After he finished up he went over some the information he had and since I had never driven a bmw before, he let me take a 328i for a drive. It was nice ride, decent power, solid feeling, quiet on the hwy, comfortable seats(leatherette), the only downside was he only had an Auto so I didn't get to check out the the 6 spd. The biggest difference I noticed from the XR and the Galant was that altough the steering felt heavier, it felt like you were in this safe little capsule and it just felt like a quality product. All-in-all it feels weird to have put down a deposit on a vehicle I haven't even seen in person yet, but at the same time it makes me excited to know that I'm 1 step closer to putting one in my garage...too bad that means that there won't be room for the XR anymore though... Now it's just to wait for BMW to release pricing and let me know If I'll be taking back that deposit, or trying to sell a car in the spring:iono:
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09-14-2007, 03:54 PM	#22
Khobin~ First Lieutenant 14 Rep 312 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2007 iTrader: (0)	So I just got an e-mail from Edmonton BMW yesterday saying that they currently don't have anyone on their list yet for the 128i. So if anyone wants to be #1....:thumbup: As for the deposit there, it's $1000, but I've gotten different responses from different salespeople as to whether it's refundable or not:iono:
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