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      02-12-2022, 08:24 PM   #1
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BMW iX 50 range test by Bjorn Nyland

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not bad at all…

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Considering he's "the Tesla guy," not too shabby....
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      02-13-2022, 08:26 AM   #3
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not bad at all…

I do recommend watching the video but for those that want the TL;DR, the results he got was 489km/304miles at 90km/h and 365km/227miles at 120km/h in what i would refer to as mild winter conditions.

I was honestly hoping for better range at 120km/h which is my default cruising speed around here.

However when comparing with other EVs, it is quite good and up there with the best. Looking at the public spreadsheet with his results ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...echMVJH37kwgjE ) , only the EQS 580 has slightly better "winter" range, 404km at 120km/h.
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      02-14-2022, 10:17 AM   #4
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I just watched his videos on the iX and they're really informative and helpful. For me, and I suspect a lot of buyers, it's the performance for long distance trips that is of particular interest. We all know electric cars are brilliant for short, largely urban trips. So I know for most of my driving, any electric car is likely to be brilliant. Higher range just means I have to park it at home rather than on the street a little less.

Where it matters more is for those long trips that I'll be doing occasionally - driving to relatives in Germany or driving to the Alps, Italy or the South of France for holidays in winter/summer. From Bjorn's videos, and also based on other reviewers I've seen, it looks like a real world range for the 50/60 is about 200 miles. Sure, you can get 300 miles if the weather is mild, your car is empty, you drive slowly and you don't have any heating or air con on but that's not the kind of long range trips that I'm ever likely to be doing. For me, it'll be either driving in the winter or in the summer with a family of 4, two dogs and a boot full of luggage. Trips are definitely going to be longer with an iX than with, say, an X5 but I imagine if you've got young kids, the difference likely won't be as noticeable as you're going to have to stop every couple of hours anyway.

It looks like, providing Ionity level charging stations are available, you can probably stop every 1-1.5 hours for about 15 minutes or every 2-2.5 hours for about 45 minutes. It's not the same as driving 3-4 hours non stop in an X5 but those days are gone now anyway. Either way, stops are going to be dictated by either my kids' frustration levels or my wife's bladder!
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he posted another video and grazed a moose on the road at speed! could've been real bad if he hit it head-on considering it sounded like he was munching on snacks right before it happened!

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The real issue is the public charging when the vehicle reaches the end of that range. No one has the charging network Tesla has and will take years to catch up.

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Recently chanced upon his channel and his i4 and ix videos. He's real funny and I like watching his content(though he's called teslabjorn)
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Wonder what happened with the Collision Avoidance and Evasion system (if he had it on)? My X5 has alerted me to deer and even braked suddenly (absolutely getting my undivided attention), and in this same scenario I'm just about 100% sure the X5 would have done something to mitigate a collision, if even just beep a warning.
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Recently chanced upon his channel and his i4 and ix videos. He's real funny and I like watching his content(though he's called teslabjorn)
He likes Tesla cars in general but does point out their many flaws as well. He is not as closed minded as the stereotypical fanboy would be. Somewhat refreshing to see.

From what I remember, he has generally liked every single BMW EV he has tested so far, but also points out things they can improve on like the stupid bar that represents charging speed in the iX. The best part is he compiles all the info into google sheets and has it publicly available for easy comparison.

Has a nice/weird sense of humor too.
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Considering he's "the Tesla guy," not too shabby....
He was, but has progressed well beyond that now.
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Has a nice/weird sense of humor too.
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He likes Tesla cars in general but does point out their many flaws as well. He is not as closed minded as the stereotypical fanboy would be. Somewhat refreshing to see.

From what I remember, he has generally liked every single BMW EV he has tested so far, but also points out things they can improve on like the stupid bar that represents charging speed in the iX. The best part is he compiles all the info into google sheets and has it publicly available for easy comparison.

Has a nice/weird sense of humor too.
Agreed. He's well beyond being a Tesla fanboi and has a lot of experience with a ton of EV's. Since quitting his job and becoming a full time You-Tuber, he's amassed a crapton of testing data. Yeah, his sense of humor is definitely a bit strange, and don't ever watch a "review" of a new car where he beats and pulls on the interior like a 5 year old, lol. But overall, if you want to know how an EV drives, and especially what the range is, he is invaluable. He pretty much set the model for Inside EV's. Plus, with so much EV knowledge in a cold climate, he can really spell out when a car is doing something weird due to cold weather (coldgating as he calls it). He knows what a car SHOULD be doing with pulling power, heating, etc. and he invests in third party apps like Scan My Tesla to show you what the car is doing.

Some of his videos showing how Tesla heats the batteries and inverters using excess motor heat is pretty cool.
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The real issue is the public charging when the vehicle reaches the end of that range. No one has the charging network Tesla has and will take years to catch up.
I've planned a few routes using abetterrouteplanner.com across Europe with the Tesla charging network switched off and the charging network availability looked fine. I think the bigger problem will be number of charge points at each location rather than the number of charge locations overall. Plus, Tesla have said they're planning on opening up the Supercharger network to non Tesla cars and have started a trial of it in various parts of Europe.
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The real issue is the public charging when the vehicle reaches the end of that range. No one has the charging network Tesla has and will take years to catch up.
Except they are opening up their network, and Electrify America is already making inroads.

That being said 90% of the drivers will never have to touch one of those charging networks. They will drive the US average of under 30 miles a day and plug in at night and never have to worry about it.
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That being said 90% of the drivers will never have to touch one of those charging networks. They will drive the US average of under 30 miles a day and plug in at night and never have to worry about it.
Exactly. I’m buying an EV to charge at home for errands and daily commutes to work. But my family will happily keep riding on our gas guzzlers during road trips for the sake of convenience and sanity. The technology is still not at a point where it’s even remotely enjoyable or satisfying to needlessly prolong total travel times and increase stress levels on longer journeys just for the sake of saving money, protecting the environment, or being able to brag about how you made it all the way from here to there on an EV. Having endured some road trips on a few Teslas myself, it’s a novelty that gets old quick.
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Still wanted gas power car. Even US gas price at 3.10$ per gal
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Ugly and pointless. Can’t wait to see the used car market flooded with electric cars with half battery capacity, or better yet in need of a battery.

Or all those OTA updates that make the infotainment center slow and useless.
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Ugly and pointless. Can’t wait to see the used car market flooded with electric cars with half battery capacity, or better yet in need of a battery.

Or all those OTA updates that make the infotainment center slow and useless.
What a joke. Do you really believe this? My coworker has one of the first Model S produced and the battery is still doing well, and it's really old at this point. A 550i of the same age and mileage is worth barely anything and needs all kinds of maintenance if you don't want the engine to go and be stuck with huge repair bills. Most BMWs end up mechanically totaled, so I'm not sure you're on the right forum if you want to complain about the used car market being flooded with cars that need expensive repairs.

Every update my BMWs have had have made the infotainment better...
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Ugly and pointless. Can’t wait to see the used car market flooded with electric cars with half battery capacity, or better yet in need of a battery.

Or all those OTA updates that make the infotainment center slow and useless.
Why are you even commenting man? 🤑😂👋
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Ugly and pointless. Can’t wait to see the used car market flooded with electric cars with half battery capacity, or better yet in need of a battery.

Or all those OTA updates that make the infotainment center slow and useless.
Congrats. You win most ignorant post of the day. You do realize that EV's have been around a decade, right? And that there is a robust market for used ones? And the only ones with significant degradation have been cheaper ones that haven't properly cooled their battery, which is no longer a thing, right? And that OTA updates are a GOOD thing not a bad thing?

How about the used car market flooded with ICE vehicles needing a new clutch from a bro who launches it constantly? Or needing new piston rings because the owner decided to cheap out on changing the oil and thought "nah, it'll go 15,000 miles between changes fine". Or the cars with transmissions that are hanging on by a thread because the owner is one of those who starts the car and puts the car into drive even before the car has reached idle. Or the car with 100k where the coolant system has been taxed and the radiator end tanks are about to fail.

Yeah, watch out for those EV's. They really have some problems.

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What a joke. Do you really believe this? My coworker has one of the first Model S produced and the battery is still doing well, and it's really old at this point. A 550i of the same age and mileage is worth barely anything and needs all kinds of maintenance if you don't want the engine to go and be stuck with huge repair bills. Most BMWs end up mechanically totaled, so I'm not sure you're on the right forum if you want to complain about the used car market being flooded with cars that need expensive repairs.

Every update my BMWs have had have made the infotainment better...
If you’re talking about Tesla, their infotainment system is a laggy mess, and gets worse with every OTA update.

You’re telling me that the model S battery last as long as an engine when not even Tesla claims that?

You believe that BEV resale value is going to stay strong, despite seeing how the technology changes and renders the older vehicles obsolete, and unable to be recycled?

These cars do nothing better than their gas counterpart, cost more, travel less, and have a lower life cycle.
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