[jg4c]

New member, first post. Been lurking for a year.
Appreciate all I've learned from the members.

My plan is to order a 2022 M340i in early summer.
Recently, took one for a short test drive here in the streets of NYC.

First time I've ever driven the car. I was amazed at one particular aspect. The car felt so solid, stable, and I didn't feel any bumps or ruts in the road.

The standard suspension (non adaptive) and run flats just seemed to eat up bad pavement. Nothing transmitted up through the cabin.
I was stunned. Makes my 2013 S4 feel like an old Honda with blown shocks.

Was my observation correct?

[RedKloud]

Did it have 18 inch wheels? With 19 in wheels and non-adaptive suspension I can pretty much feel every bump on the road. Not complaining though... it handles so much better than my F30.

[wtwo3]

I can feel bumps I can't even see and the standard m sport suspension is actually a bit harsh. Not sure how you're able to say you didn't feel any bumps.

[EXE46]

Well, I have standard suspension and the ride is fine, at-least on the roads I drive. Road surface does make a difference I presume and this differs based on where one lives and commute. My spouse now uses my car daily and has never remarked of harshness and her primary car is a Lexus RX350. NYC not known for good roads though.....

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by jg4c

New member, first post. Been lurking for a year.
Appreciate all I've learned from the members.

My plan is to order a 2022 M340i in early summer.
Recently, took one for a short test drive here in the streets of NYC.

First time I've ever driven the car. I was amazed at one particular aspect. The car felt so solid, stable, and I didn't feel any bumps or ruts in the road.

The standard suspension (non adaptive) and run flats just seemed to eat up bad pavement. Nothing transmitted up through the cabin.
I was stunned. Makes my 2013 S4 feel like an old Honda with blown shocks.

Was my observation correct?

Hard to say if your observation is accurate as I don't yet have possession of my car. I will say that your old S4 isn't bad though. If I'm not mistaken that's the B8 platform when the 3 liter supercharged engine was used which to this day I think is brilliant. I wished they had stuck with that engine rather than go turbo honestly.

In any case, I would imagine you'll enjoy your future M340i if you do indeed get one. In comparison to your S4 it is technologically advanced and a higher performance vehicle generally speaking. As you are certainly aware, if you want something similar to that car in terms of AWD(Quattro) handling you'll want to opt for the xDrive version. However, BMW's variation of xDrive in this car is reportedly much more RWD biased which is awesome. Good luck.

[6oclockshadow]

I ordered the 18" nrf's, and standard suspension. I was hoping this setup isn't going to rearrange my internal organs.

[RedKloud]

Originally Posted by 6oclockshadow

I ordered the 18" nrf's, and standard suspension. I was hoping this setup isn't going to rearrange my internal organs.

Haha... it’s not that bad really, even on the 19s. But you do feel the road.

[jg4c]

Originally Posted by RedKloud

Did it have 18 inch wheels? With 19 in wheels and non-adaptive suspension I can pretty much feel every bump on the road. Not complaining though... it handles so much better than my F30.

Nope, had 19's...maybe it's the slight extra sidewall on the tires than the 255/35/19's on my S4. Just felt a lot less jarring.

[jg4c]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

Hard to say if your observation is accurate as I don't yet have possession of my car. I will say that your old S4 isn't bad though. If I'm not mistaken that's the B8 platform when the 3 liter supercharged engine was used which to this day I think is brilliant. I wished they had stuck with that engine rather than go turbo honestly.

In any case, I would imagine you'll enjoy your future M340i if you do indeed get one. In comparison to your S4 it is technologically advanced and a higher performance vehicle generally speaking. As you are certainly aware, if you want something similar to that car in terms of AWD(Quattro) handling you'll want to opt for the xDrive version. However, BMW's variation of xDrive in this car is reportedly much more RWD biased which is awesome. Good luck.

B8.5 first year came out 2013, and yes, the supercharged 6 is fantastic. Surprised they got rid of it. Pissed off a lot of fans. Obviously, there is so much more to love about the M340i,
it is 8 years advanced of my current car. Perhaps it was a combination of things that made me love how it handled.
No body roll, solid, and a lot less jarring. Just didn't expect it to be that good. Best of luck with yours and post your observations.

[jg4c]

Originally Posted by EXE46

Well, I have standard suspension and the ride is fine, at-least on the roads I drive. Road surface does make a difference I presume and this differs based on where one lives and commute. My spouse now uses my car daily and has never remarked of harshness and her primary car is a Lexus RX350. NYC not known for good roads though.....

good to hear....

[jg4c]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

I can feel bumps I can't even see and the standard m sport suspension is actually a bit harsh. Not sure how you're able to say you didn't feel any bumps.

i'm as perplexed as you are.

[TiMSport]

OR we all have different ideas of what a "harsh" ride feels like.

[Rux]

It rides decent and really depends on what you feel harsh is. For me I can only scale it based on the cars I have owned. The worst car I have ever owned/own is a Nissan GTR. Complete shit. Compared to that, the M440i is a dream. I change out cars every 2 years or so and the last BMW set I owned was in 2006 and that e92 was worse but not much more. I will be driving the 21' M4 this weekend to see how bad they are. I am guessing I will find the same difference.

The best thing anyone can do is ditch the runflats for some Cup2s or S4s. To me, that makes the biggest difference.

[TiMSport]

Yeah and it continues to bewilder me that BMW supplies their performance variants with stupid runflats.

M4 huh? Have you seen Chris Harris' review? I like his reviews. If you haven't, check it out. Interesting remarks made from the 4:00 mark.

[Rux]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

Yeah and it continues to bewilder me that BMW supplies their performance variants with stupid runflats.

M4 huh? Have you seen Chris Harris' review? I like his reviews. If you haven't, check it out. Interesting remarks made from the 4:00 mark.

Runflats are a financial scam. It used to be that it was cheaper to provide runflats and a mobility kit. Now runflats are a selling point for the tire warranty as runflats cannot be repaired (sidewall being the most common)

I have seen some reviews. Remove Before Race prob being my favorite. I have to put my hands on it myself to see how harsh it really is. From my experience BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Porsche and some other high end cars tend to dance club light perspective owners.

[lsbuffs]

Coming from a 2017 Audi A4 with 18 inch non-run flats, I can definitely feel more bumps in the road with my '21 330i with 19 inch run flats. That said, the BMW handles better. But I am reminded of the slightly bumpier ride on my daily trip to Starbucks.

Hoping that when I eventually switch out to non-run flats, the ride may be improved a bit.

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by Rux

Runflats are a financial scam. It used to be that it was cheaper to provide runflats and a mobility kit. Now runflats are a selling point for the tire warranty as runflats cannot be repaired (sidewall being the most common)

I have seen some reviews. Remove Before Race prob being my favorite. I have to put my hands on it myself to see how harsh it really is. From my experience BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Porsche and some other high end cars tend to dance club light perspective owners.

Yeah Remove Before Race is definitely a good one. Chris Harris is definitely carrying Top Gear on his back. Of course it's best to drive one yourself regardless.

[Baworak]

I've ordered my M340i on 19'' non runflats with M sport suspension (non-adaptive). There was literally no difference between comfort and sport mode on adaptive suspension, so why to pay extra for that?

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by Baworak

I've ordered my M340i on 19'' non runflats with M sport suspension (non-adaptive). There was literally no difference between comfort and sport mode on adaptive suspension, so why to pay extra for that?

Sometimes I wonder whether it's not a placebo. People that know they're driving with adaptive suspension feel like there's a substantial difference when there's not. I realize there are differences but maybe they can be a bit exaggerated. I've had adaptive suspension on some of my cars and I end up driving it in sport mode all the time anyway, not comfort. It would just be a waste for me. There's not a big difference in my current Audi I can tell you that. Whether it's comfort or sport, almost the same. It's more about the throttle mapping and keeping higher revs in the case of my S3.

Admittedly I cannot speak on the BMW suspension since I have not driven one with the adaptive setup. I can only base it on other cars. I also drive on roads that are generally in good condition so it can certainly be more pronounced in places like Northeastern US where the roads are terrible. I'm sure plenty can speak on that.

Oh and I too ordered mine with 19" non runflats. I think the runflats are making the ride more harsh for those that are stuck with them. Thankfully I won't be.

[Baworak]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

I think the runflats are making the ride more harsh for those that are stuck with them.

Yeah, I agree on that. Non-runflats probably do bigger difference than adaptive suspension.

I test drove the car with Adaptive M Suspension, I wasn't feeling any difference. Thus I did a "blind test" with three people on board and they couldn't guess whether we were in sport or comfort mode. So much for the adaptive suspension, which is overrated in my opinion. It's not air suspension anyways to make a proper difference.

[Ikester19]

Originally Posted by Baworak

Yeah, I agree on that. Non-runflats probably do bigger difference than adaptive suspension.

I test drove the car with Adaptive M Suspension, I wasn't feeling any difference. Thus I did a "blind test" with three people on board and they couldn't guess whether we were in sport or comfort mode. So much for the adaptive suspension, which is overrated in my opinion. It's not air suspension anyways to make a proper difference.

I've found the Adaptive Suspension does in fact make a big difference. Comfort mode offers a more relaxing drive particularly noticeable on longer journeys with dampers that stay balanced on uneven roads, creating a smoother driving experience. In sport and sport plus mode the dampers tighten to give a more athletic ride particularly when you're pushing it around corners and under heavy braking it allows more speed, accuracy and stability. You have to drive on different roads and conditions to notice the difference.

[srbs73]

Originally Posted by Ikester19

I've found the Adaptive Suspension does in fact make a big difference. Comfort mode offers a more relaxing drive particularly noticeable on longer journeys with dampers that stay balanced on uneven roads, creating a smoother driving experience. In sport and sport plus mode the dampers tighten to give a more athletic ride particularly when you're pushing it around corners and under heavy braking it allows more speed, accuracy and stability. You have to drive on different roads and conditions to notice the difference.

Absolutely does make a big difference. I came from an 2016 Audi Q7 with air suspension and ride quality was a concern for me. Although it is a bit firmer, I find the ride quality excellent in Comfort.