How to optimize your 0-60 run?

Antle72 · 10-14-2008, 10:29 AM

I'm not sure if i'm doing it right but everytime I race my buddy who has the 2007 is350 I always lose. My first time against him I didn't have the DTC on and my second time racing him I held the DTC button for 5 seconds but I overrevved my launch so I kinda fishtailed a bit...I lost about 1-2 car lengths even with the fishtailing and my dad put regular gas in my car while I was away at school but he knows now not to put regular anymore.. I forgave him..so anyways any racing tips would be appreciated..I'm pretty confident I'll get him next time though.

RedGT3 · 10-14-2008, 10:36 AM

What about racing from a 40 MPH roll (IN MEXICO OFCOURSE)

Arustik1 · 10-14-2008, 10:38 AM

I think you should put your flame suit on cause some ppl might get pissed off...

Antle72 · 10-14-2008, 10:38 AM

yeah we never thought about racing from a roll lol i'd beat him for sure, I wanna beat him from the launch though, I wanna improve my stick skills so some tips would be appreciated guys!

Antle72 · 10-14-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Arustik1

I think you should put your flame suit on cause some ppl might get pissed off...

LOL! yeah yeah im sorry guys but hey I don't even have a 1 year experience of driving a standard car yet.

NewSong · 10-14-2008, 10:42 AM

As long as you guys keep it on the track, drag race your heart out.

Doing it on the streets is just ridiculous.

GeauxChadE90 · 10-14-2008, 10:48 AM

Manual or auto tranny?

Seminole · 10-14-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Antle72

LOL! yeah yeah im sorry guys but hey I don't even have a 1 year experience of driving a standard car yet.

That probably your problem. You are either shifting poorly or not fast enough. I've only driven a stick twice, so I can't give you any pointers.

Kruz · 10-14-2008, 10:48 AM

Run him off the road.

Antle72 · 10-14-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxChadE90

Manual or auto tranny?

Manual

Antle72 · 10-14-2008, 10:50 AM

Am I alone here? am I the only guy thats lost to an is350 on this forum?

RedGT3 · 10-14-2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Antle72

Am I alone here? am I the only guy thats lost to an is350 on this forum?

Sorry, but YES.

Enjoiyourlife · 10-14-2008, 10:59 AM

GeauxChadE90 · 10-14-2008, 11:00 AM

turn off DTC and rev to about 4000rpm or so, then slowly dump the clutch and slam the gas while more rapidly releasing the clutch. it will tear up your clutch if you do it often, but its essentially the same as double clutching. the idea is to keep the tach in the range where there maximum torque is developed, which results in the greatest possible amount of power turning the wheels. also, if you let the clutch out too slowly, it will heat up quickly and lose its "tackiness," and it will start to slip (and it smells like crap, too). Hope that helps

darkphantom · 10-14-2008, 11:03 AM

don't drop the clutch, i.e. launch too hard....hold at about 2-3k and you should be fine.

p.s. try hitting the DTC button just once, acts as an electronic LSD...since we don't have a physical LSD....

You should walk the IS.....

Antle72 · 10-14-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxChadE90

turn off DTC and rev to about 4000rpm or so, then slowly dump the clutch and slam the gas while more rapidly releasing the clutch. it will tear up your clutch if you do it often, but its essentially the same as double clutching. the idea is to keep the tach in the range where there maximum torque is developed, which results in the greatest possible amount of power turning the wheels. also, if you let the clutch out too slowly, it will heat up quickly and lose its "tackiness," and it will start to slip (and it smells like crap, too). Hope that helps

yeah that was helpful i'll give it a try next time...but turn off DTC? all the videos I see they have DTC on.

darkphantom · 10-14-2008, 11:06 AM

^with DTC/DSC off you're going to get alot of wheel spin and unless you're an experienced driver, you'll create a plume of smoke before moving a foot....

Antle72 · 10-14-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fll335

Sorry, but YES.

lol damn, haha ill get better and show you all a vid next time!

335e92tx · 10-14-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by darkphantom

^with DTC/DSC off you're going to get alot of wheel spin and unless you're an experienced driver, you'll create a plume of smoke before moving a foot....

Especially with a manual. Just let the electronics do it for you.. plenty of grunt to dust a NA 6cyl.

GeauxChadE90 · 10-14-2008, 11:10 AM

that's where learning to drive your car is important. You can keep it on, but I can feel the power transfer between the engine/cluth/wheels better that way, and feel like I can keep on the verge of spin out better. This goes back to feathering the clutch...you have to get a feel for where you need to keep the clutch to keep from burning out, but still transfer the max amount of power.

Do you have sport package or aftermarket wheels? I have sport and the wider tires create a world of difference when trying to put power to the road effectively.

Antle72 · 10-14-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxChadE90

that's where learning to drive your car is important. You can keep it on, but I can feel the power transfer between the engine/cluth/wheels better that way, and feel like I can keep on the verge of spin out better. This goes back to feathering the clutch...you have to get a feel for where you need to keep the clutch to keep from burning out, but still transfer the max amount of power.

Do you have sport package or aftermarket wheels? I have sport and the wider tires create a world of difference when trying to put power to the road effectively.

Yeah, I heard you get the most HP if you hold DTC for 5 seconds/completely turn DSC off. I have the sport package but my wheels are still stock I'm planning on getting new wider tires though for better traction.

GeauxChadE90 · 10-14-2008, 11:32 AM

I just saw you had a 335i. you should be able to get plenty of power with the DTC on. I have a 325i and need every advantage I can get to keep up with you punks...a 335 is definitely in my future!

And for the lexus:

http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Lexus-...phs-11268.html

As you can see the BMW is more consistent. Also, if you start at about 4g's and dump the clutch from there, you back up into a portion of the curve that is torquier. If I had to guess, it corresponds with the maximum compression of air into the cylinders from both turbos.

Good luck!

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Antle72 New Member 2 Rep 25 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Coupe Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: British Columbia, Canada iTrader: (0)	How to optimize your 0-60 run? I'm not sure if i'm doing it right but everytime I race my buddy who has the 2007 is350 I always lose. My first time against him I didn't have the DTC on and my second time racing him I held the DTC button for 5 seconds but I overrevved my launch so I kinda fishtailed a bit...I lost about 1-2 car lengths even with the fishtailing and my dad put regular gas in my car while I was away at school but he knows now not to put regular anymore.. I forgave him..so anyways any racing tips would be appreciated..I'm pretty confident I'll get him next time though.
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Antle72 New Member 2 Rep 25 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Coupe Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: British Columbia, Canada iTrader: (0)	yeah we never thought about racing from a roll lol i'd beat him for sure, I wanna beat him from the launch though, I wanna improve my stick skills so some tips would be appreciated guys!
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GeauxChadE90 Private 4 Rep 86 Posts Drives: 2006 Black/Terra 325i Sport Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Baton Rouge, LA iTrader: (0)	turn off DTC and rev to about 4000rpm or so, then slowly dump the clutch and slam the gas while more rapidly releasing the clutch. it will tear up your clutch if you do it often, but its essentially the same as double clutching. the idea is to keep the tach in the range where there maximum torque is developed, which results in the greatest possible amount of power turning the wheels. also, if you let the clutch out too slowly, it will heat up quickly and lose its "tackiness," and it will start to slip (and it smells like crap, too). Hope that helps
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darkphantom Banned 595 Rep 5,946 Posts Drives: E93 335i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The place for Bimmers iTrader: (4)	don't drop the clutch, i.e. launch too hard....hold at about 2-3k and you should be fine. p.s. try hitting the DTC button just once, acts as an electronic LSD...since we don't have a physical LSD.... You should walk the IS.....
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darkphantom Banned 595 Rep 5,946 Posts Drives: E93 335i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The place for Bimmers iTrader: (4)	^with DTC/DSC off you're going to get alot of wheel spin and unless you're an experienced driver, you'll create a plume of smoke before moving a foot....
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GeauxChadE90 Private 4 Rep 86 Posts Drives: 2006 Black/Terra 325i Sport Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Baton Rouge, LA iTrader: (0)	that's where learning to drive your car is important. You can keep it on, but I can feel the power transfer between the engine/cluth/wheels better that way, and feel like I can keep on the verge of spin out better. This goes back to feathering the clutch...you have to get a feel for where you need to keep the clutch to keep from burning out, but still transfer the max amount of power. Do you have sport package or aftermarket wheels? I have sport and the wider tires create a world of difference when trying to put power to the road effectively.
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GeauxChadE90 Private 4 Rep 86 Posts Drives: 2006 Black/Terra 325i Sport Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Baton Rouge, LA iTrader: (0)	I just saw you had a 335i. you should be able to get plenty of power with the DTC on. I have a 325i and need every advantage I can get to keep up with you punks...a 335 is definitely in my future! And for the lexus: http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Lexus-...phs-11268.html As you can see the BMW is more consistent. Also, if you start at about 4g's and dump the clutch from there, you back up into a portion of the curve that is torquier. If I had to guess, it corresponds with the maximum compression of air into the cylinders from both turbos. Good luck!
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