Don’t buy cheap tools

porsche959 · 12-26-2018, 12:50 AM

Do yourself a favor and buy legit tools

Welcome to NBA Jam · 12-26-2018, 01:09 AM

What were you removing?

porsche959 · 12-26-2018, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Welcome to NBA Jam

What were you removing?

Tie rod tightening screw

320IN54 · 12-26-2018, 02:17 AM

from the looks of the bits they look like they were impact torx bits too. I have never seen that happen and usually its the actual screw that strips instead of the bit itself.

Efthreeoh · 12-26-2018, 06:39 AM

Okay, agreed, but the obvious question is... where did you get those cheap-ass tools?

Greyfox · 12-26-2018, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Okay, agreed, but the obvious question is... where did you get those cheap-ass tools?

HF?

dcorn · 12-26-2018, 07:36 AM

Or don't buy torx bits with hollowed out centers?

mecheng77 · 12-26-2018, 08:07 AM

Impact tools are made from a softer steel to absorb the impact motion. Were you using an impact wrench? I only have Chrome torx bits

porsche959 · 12-26-2018, 10:10 AM

was using it on a 10 inch ratchet.

got a 6 pack on ebay for $5

- so...very cheap, should have expected this

N54Society · 12-26-2018, 12:21 PM

I think having a mix of good tools and cheap tools is the sweet spot. I love some of my HF tools.

Bali · 12-28-2018, 02:17 AM

I have this excellent torx wrench set and use it a lot.
Titan 12715
http://a.co/d/8p42Ov0

This set is pretty nice too.
https://www.overstock.com/Home-Garde...7/product.html

juld0zer · 12-28-2018, 05:29 AM

Security Torx bits are always weaker than regular Torx bits because they are hollow.

I'd just use the regular hex head unless it was completely fubar?

Efthreeoh · 12-28-2018, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche959

was using it on a 10 inch ratchet.

got a 6 pack on ebay for $5

- so...very cheap, should have expected this

Dude, even a $5 6-pack of beer is bad; you should have known better

TheMidnightNarwhal · 12-28-2018, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mecheng77

Impact tools are made from a softer steel to absorb the impact motion. Were you using an impact wrench? I only have Chrome torx bits

Yeah I think this is also why IMO.

Impact tools are softer in nature to compress and take hard impact hits.

So putting a steady amount of torque by way of ratchet is bound to risk damaging or bending/distorting the socket.

CTinline-six · 12-28-2018, 08:39 AM

Yup, I learned the hard way with some cheap tools, in the form of one of those China Craftsman Evolve socket sets. I was working on my Jeep's suspension and the ratchet decided to break internally while tightening a bolt (wasn't even all that tight yet). My hand slipped because of the awkward position I was in and slammed against the control arm.

I threw the ratchet in the trash. I wasn't even going to bother with a warranty replacement since they would've given me the same garbage in return from the only Sears around which is now 50 miles away.

I've been buying used SK tools on ebay for under $10 and they have all been excellent.

wdb · 12-28-2018, 03:44 PM

Impact tools are indeed a bit softer, but that's not what happened here. Those are not impact tools, it's just cheaper to finish cheap tools with black than it is to chrome them. These were cheap tools with cheap finish.

K9Leader · 12-28-2018, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dcorn

Or don't buy torx bits with hollowed out centers?

The Torx bits with center holes are used for "security" Torx bits that have a prong in the center that the center hole fits around. I've used the set I have for both "security" and regular Torx screws. Looks as though the set used by the OP were very cheaply made.

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