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      12-24-2018, 12:28 PM   #1
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Talk me out of buying a GT-R...

Guys, I have a problem. I can't seem to stay in a car long enough before wanting something different. I have had two 335i BMWs, coming from a 370z, and while I love the N54 platform, and vowed to never buy a Nissan again, I'm sort of getting the itch to buy one again.

In reality, I should not be wanting a new car since I just got the E90 in my sig about two years ago but again, I have a problem. I've done some maintenance on the car (currently guts open doing the VC, OFHG, serpentine belt, brakes, transmission pan/filter + mechatronic plastics), but it's not my dream car, no matter how powerful I make it. It would be great for a daily driver with all of this maintenance out of the way but it just doesn't wow me. Don't get me wrong, it's an alpine white e90 Msport 335i...absolute beauty but not GT-R beauty.

Here is what I initially planned to do:
Get a 335is and make it my race car with aftermarket turbos etc.
Get a 2005 4Runner as the daily (also need this as a hauler for home projects)
Sell the E90

Here is what I'm thinking of doing now:
Get a 2014 GT-R as the weekend warrior (maybe daily since I live ~7 miles from work)
Get a 2005 4Runner as the daily (also need this as a hauler for home projects)
Sell the E90

I'm conflicted about the 335is. I love that car and the DCT it comes with but it lacks the wow factor I was talking about above that comes with a "race car". Am I just being ungrateful?
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      12-24-2018, 01:47 PM   #2
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What you are experiencing is a lust for something exotic. As good as the N54 335i is making hp, it is not that special and will not get the same attention as a GTR or any limited edition anything. There's just too many 335i around let alone e90. Joe public can't tell the difference. Which begs the question.... what inner self-need are you trying to satisfy here? And if it is a recurring situation, then metal and rubber will not fill that void.

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      12-24-2018, 03:01 PM   #3
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If you got money to burn then go for it otherwise good luck to you.
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Get a 2007 911 Turbo instead and thank me later..
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Well since you asked... I don’t find the GT-R interesting at all. It’s an expensive ugly AWD Japanese turbo tuner car which I only see kids driving.

The 335is has a beautiful timeless body and mature shape, rwd, and very high quality fit and finish inside.

The speed of either car doesn’t mean a thing to me cause they are both turbos, so either one can be made as fast as your wallet desires.

Of course I’m biased to the bmw that’s why I own one and I’m on this forum lol
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You only keep a car or get bored after two years? It sounds like you have a commitment issue and you must lose your tail when or if you trade in or sell a car that often.
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Dont lust over Nissan....come on!
Go 911 Gt - 3 Rs or Gt-2 Rs if your feeling exotic
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Well since you asked... I don’t find the GT-R interesting at all. It’s an expensive ugly AWD Japanese turbo tuner car which I only see kids driving.

The 335is has a beautiful timeless body and mature shape, rwd, and very high quality fit and finish inside.

The speed of either car doesn’t mean a thing to me cause they are both turbos, so either one can be made as fast as your wallet desires.

Of course I’m biased to the bmw that’s why I own one and I’m on this forum lol
Agreed with you on this... I have a friends with GTR and nothing special looks ugly/big and cheep inside.
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with E90's being cheap now, there's plenty of kids driving around with 335i's now.
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The e90 platform is a hairdressers car. It's nothing special and lots of people can afford them.

I'd go Porsche
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      12-24-2018, 11:28 PM   #11
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Personally, I agree with many saying you should treat yourself and go for a dedicated sports car. Whether it be GT-R, 911, etc.

Best of luck in your search.
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Talk you out of it? One word... NISSAN

I will never own another one of their POS vehicles unless someone gives it to me free and I drive it to another car lot to trade it in on something else.
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I'd consider leasing instead in your case and staying happy every few years...
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You will get bored of any car, find some other hobbies to keep you distracted, although I agree I’d go Porsche: 996 or 997
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with E90's being cheap now, there's plenty of kids driving around with 335i's now.
So does that mean I'm supposed to be embarrassed about owning one?
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The e90 platform is a hairdressers car. It's nothing special and lots of people can afford them.

I'd go Porsche
Well, unless it's a 335i, which breaks all the time
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Well, unless it's a 335i, which breaks all the time
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it surprises that so many people responded but no one really address the elephant in the room

A 2014 GTR is roughly 50-60k used , maybe even more if its fully equipped, while a 2013 335is fully loaded is not more than 30k

So you are comparing apple to oranges here, there are so many cars in between , the price different is so big that I cant even take op seriously

But lets say you are serious about comparing a 30k car to a 60k car. There is not question the GTR is a whole different league than a 335 is , anyone telling you otherwise is just a BMW fan boy .

Financially is a horrible decision unless you have money to burn. Also keep in mind that a used GTR , although , somewhat affordable at 60k , also comes with a different maintenance price tag than a 335is. Tires and brakes are probably twice the cost of BMW... Not to mention insurance , gas, other maintenance/ breaks along the way


Now if you were to compared used supercars at around 60k there are other nice options there, but do your research , I m not sure you fully know or understand what you are getting into buying a 60k supercar...

So far you have owned used 335I , 370Z, which are mostly kids toys nowdays.
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You only keep a car or get bored after two years? It sounds like you have a commitment issue and you must lose your tail when or if you trade in or sell a car that often.
I have the opposite problem.
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Thanks for replying guys. This is really helpful.

Yes, this may be a commitment issue, or a lust for something "exotic", but honestly, I've always liked the GT-R, so this isn't totally out of the blue. I finally own a house with a garage to keep something cool in it.

Some things to address, the GT-R platform has WAY less kids than ours from what I can tell. The cost of ownership is the main factor. Also, yes I know it's a Nissan, lol. It's a $60k Nissan, compared to a $12k BMW (my own car). It's not an Altima lol. Those are non-issues for me anyways, but since it was brought up, I need to say that I'm not attached to any brand. There is a reason why I haven't jumped to the F30 or F80 BMW cars, I like the E9x for what it is.

If I wanted more problems than what the N54 has to offer, then I would definitely consider the Porsche. Porsches are a dime a dozen where I live so it would hardly feel like an exotic.

To the one person that brought up the price difference, good points all around. I realize there is a $30k difference in price between the two cars but the cars would serve the same purpose for me. Those are really the only two cars I would consider because of the bang for buck aspect in terms of power to $ spent ratio is concerned.

I sensed some bias from a couple of people and addressed that above. No brand loyalty here. I'm not concerned with maintenance considering I buy tires for all of my cars online and have them installed at Costco or a local shop. Brakes I do myself. I'm savvy enough to save on some of those costs, which are undoubtedly higher on a GT-R than a 335is. I would imagine insurance is going to be a hell of a lot more. Can you explain how it's a bad financial decision otherwise though? They seem to retain a lot of their value after the initial depreciation. Also what other supercars are around $60k that I should be looking at?

Thanks

EDIT: This isn't a "I'm 19 y/o, want to get a GT-R" thread. I know what I can afford, while being able to pay my mortgage, support my family, and have something left for saving. Mostly running it by you guys to see if you can talk me out of it for reasons I have not thought of.
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Mostly running it by you guys to see if you can talk me out of it for reasons I have not thought of.
Have you driven the GT-R yet? I only ask because there are a lot of cars that I've lusted over, only to have completely changed my mind after driving them.

I have never been a fan of any Porsche because the styling just doesn't do anything for me, however I was fortunate enough to spend a day on a track with a 991.2 Carrera S and that completely changed my perception about them. I could easily get past the looks; though I haven't driven (or seen) a C8 Corvette yet!

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There's just too many 335i around let alone e90. Joe public can't tell the difference.
This is why I like the 335. I'm a big fan of sleeper cars. I want to have fun without being noticed - there's no need for unnecessary attention.
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Have you driven the GT-R yet? I only ask because there are a lot of cars that I've lusted over, only to have completely changed my mind after driving them.
I haven't driven one but I know enough about them and have been in a couple to know that I like them. But you're right, there is no substitute for actually driving it to be certain. Just thought about it...I bought my first 335i sight unseen. The 370z I drove for the first time when I bought it, lol. Most other cars I've purchased were this way and I haven't really been let down from that perspective. That's in the plans for sure though.

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I have never been a fan of any Porsche because the styling just doesn't do anything for me, however I was fortunate enough to spend a day on a track with a 991.2 Carrera S and that completely changed my perception about them. I could easily get past the looks; though I haven't driven (or seen) a C8 Corvette yet!
Not a fan of Porsche tbh. Maybe a GT3 or GT2 but those are not in the choices to pick from lol. Other than that, I can't see myself driving a 996 or 911 Turbo. The C8 would be cool too (mid-engine?) but that's pricey too.
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