Ceramic coatings

SteveChester · 04-03-2018, 04:32 PM

Have people applied these themselves and if so which ones?

I've been looking at the GTechniq stuff and don't know if I need the Exo and Crystal Serum or just one? Any other decent brands to recommend?

Watsey · 04-03-2018, 04:57 PM

I have the same question.

Planning to have my car detailed plus PPF and am undecided between UNC-R, GTechniq, or something else.

Gloss finish, hydropobic, long life and easy maintenance.

planemad · 04-03-2018, 05:01 PM

I quite like Siramik.

SteveChester · 04-03-2018, 05:02 PM

Hopefully someone will help us out then!

ajfoggy · 04-03-2018, 05:27 PM

For the Gtechniq the serum is the protective coating then topped with the Exo for the repellent side of things.

Think of the crystal serum as an extra coat of clear coat and the Exo as the wax/repellent side of things.

SteveChester · 04-03-2018, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ajfoggy

For the Gtechniq the serum is the protective coating then topped with the Exo for the repellent side of things.

Think of the crystal serum as an extra coat of clear coat and the Exo as the wax/repellent side of things.

Ok so I need to buy both?

ajfoggy · 04-03-2018, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveChester

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Originally Posted by ajfoggy

For the Gtechniq the serum is the protective coating then topped with the Exo for the repellent side of things.

Think of the crystal serum as an extra coat of clear coat and the Exo as the wax/repellent side of things.

Ok so I need to buy both?

Yep, Crystal Serum Light followed by Exo.

FYI. If you mess up Crystal Serum application it needs sanding off. Think Serum light is ok but be careful.

SteveChester · 04-03-2018, 06:06 PM

Cool thanks I'll get the Lite stuff and quite a few decent YouTube vids to watch.

RoShambolt · 04-03-2018, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ajfoggy

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Originally Posted by SteveChester

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Originally Posted by ajfoggy

For the Gtechniq the serum is the protective coating then topped with the Exo for the repellent side of things.

Think of the crystal serum as an extra coat of clear coat and the Exo as the wax/repellent side of things.

Ok so I need to buy both?

Yep, Crystal Serum Light followed by Exo.

FYI. If you mess up Crystal Serum application it needs sanding off. Think Serum light is ok but be careful.

Yes agree. I applied CSL and EXO V3 myself. Still looking good and beading incredibly well. Took me two days start to finish in the garage. That included a decontamination and single stage finishing polish.

I have used the Gtechniq quick detailer since it was applied and I think that keeps the EXO doing its thing. Has definitely kept swirls at bay. After a year there are very few marks in it.

One word of advice though, EXO does mark if rubbed or touched lightly on a even mildly dusty car. My neighbour wiped a gloved hand over the dusty wing before I could stop him, saying he loved the colour. It looked like he had scratched the shit out of it. I couldn't get the mark out with QD. I panel wiped it and it disappeared, that strips the EXO back to the CSL, so I then re applied the EXO.

Long story short, it takes ages, but the rewards are worth it, just. When I calculated the materials used to do it myself, I think I saved about ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â£550 by doing it myself rather than taking it to a detailer.

I'm a very fussy so do everything I can myself.

You will need a dust free garage and a diffuse light source too. This is to make sure you get all the CSL residue off! It's hard to see with a spot light torch.

kzg1969 · 04-04-2018, 12:26 AM

a few options for you

Gyeon wetcoat - spray on, jet wash off. Repeat every few washes
Gyeon CanCoat - need to prepare car a bit more, single coat, easy to apply, need to leave overnight. lasts 6month
CSL and EXO - probably best DIY option - needs a full day i would say, and left overnight

RustyBitz · 04-04-2018, 12:49 AM

Gyeon all the way!

SteveChester · 04-04-2018, 02:07 AM

Which Gyeon product did they use? RustyBitz

....,,,,..,,.. · 04-04-2018, 02:12 AM

As mentioned above, prep is key.

To get the most you really need to spend time doing full decontamination, ideally use a DA to get out those swirls etc.

The more time spent on the prep, the better the end results.

Curing time is also pretty key as it all needs time.

RustyBitz · 04-04-2018, 02:19 AM

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Which Gyeon product did they use? RustyBitz

I have gtechniq C5 on my wheels and exhaust tips and Gyeon Q² Mohs on the body.

More than happy to give you the guys details on PM he's based in Warrington.

creepy coupe · 04-04-2018, 03:25 AM

I've applied Gtechniq C2 on my last five cars and love the stuff. couldn't be easier to apply and shine for ££ it's brilliant.

I did a back to back on my M235

C2 lasted longer than many others

Ti Rich · 04-04-2018, 09:37 AM

I had Gyeon Cancoat 2 applied by a detailer from new. After 7 months it is still going strong.

Will reapply myself after one year. At about £35 it's good stuff.

isleaiw1 · 04-04-2018, 10:27 AM

I had GTechniq applied by detailer - CSL outside and relevant stuff for wheels, windows, tyres and interior. Highly recommend...

Pics and story here... https://www.definitionsdetailing.co....isq5correction

Still comes up wonderful and shiny and smooth as anything...

creepy coupe · 04-04-2018, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by isleaiw1

I had GTechniq applied by detailer - CSL outside and relevant stuff for wheels, windows, tyres and interior. Highly recommend...

Pics and story here... https://www.definitionsdetailing.co....isq5correction

Still comes up wonderful and shiny and smooth as anything...

That looks the dogs

isleaiw1 · 04-04-2018, 11:19 AM

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That looks the dogs

Thanks - I think so too!

gr4z · 04-05-2018, 05:27 AM

Do you guys honestly think these coatings are worth the cash? I have the Gtechniq treatment on the F36 and I really am not sure I will bother again. The car is constantly filthy in the winter and gave up trying to keep it clean.

In the summer, two buckets and my jetwash every Saturday afternoon.

Will I really see the benefit when she is around 3 years old the normal paint would start to fade?

isleaiw1 · 04-05-2018, 05:32 AM

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Do you guys honestly think these coatings are worth the cash? I have the Gtechniq treatment on the F36 and I really am not sure I will bother again. The car is constantly filthy in the winter and gave up trying to keep it clean.

In the summer, two buckets and my jetwash every Saturday afternoon.

Will I really see the benefit when she is around 3 years old the normal paint would start to fade?

it definitely cleans more easily and it feels smoother. will only know the difference when it is 3 years old - before that I have the annual top ups to have done!

moff · 04-05-2018, 05:38 AM

Gyeon MOHS is excellent and easy to do at home - just did my car at the weekend.

If you use a detailer I would go high end GT Techniq.

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SteveChester Brigadier General 2472 Rep 4,653 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chester iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW F82 M4 [0.00]	Ceramic coatings Have people applied these themselves and if so which ones? I've been looking at the GTechniq stuff and don't know if I need the Exo and Crystal Serum or just one? Any other decent brands to recommend? __________________ Steve Roberts UK F82 M4 I'm running the 2024 London Marathon for the British Forces Foundation - https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/sr5/
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SteveChester Brigadier General 2472 Rep 4,653 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chester iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW F82 M4 [0.00]	Cool thanks I'll get the Lite stuff and quite a few decent YouTube vids to watch. __________________ Steve Roberts UK F82 M4 I'm running the 2024 London Marathon for the British Forces Foundation - https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/sr5/
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kzg1969 Lieutenant Colonel 1299 Rep 1,927 Posts Drives: X3M Comp / M3 E93 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: AberFreeze iTrader: (1)	a few options for you Gyeon wetcoat - spray on, jet wash off. Repeat every few washes Gyeon CanCoat - need to prepare car a bit more, single coat, easy to apply, need to leave overnight. lasts 6month CSL and EXO - probably best DIY option - needs a full day i would say, and left overnight
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....,,,,..,,.. General 6734 Rep 20,651 Posts Drives: xxxx Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: xxxx iTrader: (0)	As mentioned above, prep is key. To get the most you really need to spend time doing full decontamination, ideally use a DA to get out those swirls etc. The more time spent on the prep, the better the end results. Curing time is also pretty key as it all needs time.
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Ti Rich Major 310 Rep 1,314 Posts Drives: Porsche Macan S D Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dudley, West Midlands, UK iTrader: (0)	I had Gyeon Cancoat 2 applied by a detailer from new. After 7 months it is still going strong. Will reapply myself after one year. At about £35 it's good stuff.
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moff Colonel 1364 Rep 2,495 Posts Drives: X4M Competition Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nottingham GB iTrader: (0)	Gyeon MOHS is excellent and easy to do at home - just did my car at the weekend. If you use a detailer I would go high end GT Techniq. __________________ Arrived! 2022 X4M Competition, SPY + Black Merino Gone: 2019 X3M Competition, Toronto Red, Adelaide Grey.
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