Coding vs connected drive services (RTTI)

Ridg · 02-27-2017, 03:48 AM

Apologise if this has been asked before (or should be in the coding section).

Basically my connected drive runs out next week, looking at £35 for BMW Online and £40 for RTTI, not bothers about concierge.

Am I right in thinking that RTTI can be enabled via coding and that online can be set to use your mobile (if connected)?

If so how simple is this to do e.g. if it's just flipping a few options then I'll buy the cable and do it myself or is it more involved?

Thanks!

dazwhite · 02-27-2017, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ridg

Apologise if this has been asked before (or should be in the coding section).

Basically my connected drive runs out next week, looking at £35 for BMW Online and £40 for RTTI, not bothers about concierge.

Am I right in thinking that RTTI can be enabled via coding and that online can be set to use your mobile (if connected)?

If so how simple is this to do e.g. if it's just flipping a few options then I'll buy the cable and do it myself or is it more involved?

Thanks!

I've been trying to do this but haven't got it working via the mobile yet

I've not seen any posts which explain how its done only ones which comment
that it is possible.

Abzynthe · 02-27-2017, 07:29 AM

Ive read somewhere that you need to turn off data from the sim in the car to be able to tether to the phone. I havent tried it though as I still have two years left on all my online stuff. I also have only seen RTTI be coded in the old CIC not NBT.

Ridg · 02-28-2017, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Abzynthe

Ive read somewhere that you need to turn off data from the sim in the car to be able to tether to the phone. I havent tried it though as I still have two years left on all my online stuff. I also have only seen RTTI be coded in the old CIC not NBT.

Ah I'm NBT so probably can't do it, thanks for the info!

Sasquartch · 02-28-2017, 07:37 AM

I tried to do it with my CIC based ProNav and was not successful

Quite a few posts around on various forums but no definitive list of what needs coding

If anyone has done this on CIC I'd be interested to know what had to be done

Abzynthe · 02-28-2017, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquartch

I tried to do it with my CIC based ProNav and was not successful

Quite a few posts around on various forums but no definitive list of what needs coding

If anyone has done this on CIC I'd be interested to know what had to be done

This is the info I have.

Sasquartch · 02-28-2017, 09:56 AM

Thanks, interesting
So this will enable RTTI when I have a mobile with internet connected via Bluetooth ?

Abzynthe · 02-28-2017, 10:00 AM

No idea. Sorry. But this is all the RTTI I can find on the cheat sheet I have.

JD6 · 02-28-2017, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ridg

Apologise if this has been asked before (or should be in the coding section).

Basically my connected drive runs out next week, looking at £35 for BMW Online and £40 for RTTI, not bothers about concierge.

Am I right in thinking that RTTI can be enabled via coding and that online can be set to use your mobile (if connected)?

If so how simple is this to do e.g. if it's just flipping a few options then I'll buy the cable and do it myself or is it more involved?

Thanks!

Just to clarify - have you been quoted £40 per year for RTTI, and can you take just this by itself or do you need to have BMW Online in order to get it?

I would happily pay £40pa to continue RTTI sub, but thought it cost £120

Ridg · 02-28-2017, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD6

Just to clarify - have you been quoted £40 per year for RTTI, and can you take just this by itself or do you need to have BMW Online in order to get it?

I would happily pay £40pa to continue RTTI sub, but thought it cost £120

that's what's its saying on www.bmw-connecteddrive.co.uk

so far I've had a good experience with RTTI (I know some people hate it) so will probably just pay the £40 for 12 months.

dazwhite · 02-28-2017, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquartch

Thanks, interesting
So this will enable RTTI when I have a mobile with internet connected via Bluetooth ?

No it won't, I tried it😕

1966-TR4 · 03-01-2017, 06:26 AM

When it is busy just turn off onto a B road and get stuck at the end of a 6 mile tailback that is not shown on your map, then you'll feel like you have RTTI.

jayakrishnanv · 03-01-2017, 10:30 AM

This was discussed before in this thread as i have seen being done in E9x forum. Vorph has confirmed it can be done.
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1340698

marra · 03-01-2017, 12:14 PM

RTTI is £40 on my connected drive as its up this month.

Interesting the Sat Nav map updates are only £60 for 2 years.

magicmerlin · 03-01-2017, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by marra

RTTI is £40 on my connected drive as its up this month.

Interesting the Sat Nav map updates are only £60 for 2 years.

Really £40 for the year. I just had the 6 or 12 month option a month ago and went with the 6 month at £70 or thereabouts.

dazwhite · 03-01-2017, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayakrishnanv

This was discussed before in this thread as i have seen being done in E9x forum. Vorph has confirmed it can be done.
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1340698

It's seems like a number of people have tried but not succeeded. Maybe Vorph can enlighten us?

stealth98 · 09-30-2017, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquartch

I tried to do it with my CIC based ProNav and was not successful

Quite a few posts around on various forums but no definitive list of what needs coding

If anyone has done this on CIC I'd be interested to know what had to be done

RTTI retrofit for BMW’s with CIC and Combox Telematics is possible

Sasquartch · 09-30-2017, 01:39 PM

Not sure what this offers, it says a prerequisite is an active ConnectedDrive service

What people really want to do is to be able to access the online services via a mobile using the phone's 3/4G connection rather than the car's SIM

stealth98 · 10-01-2017, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquartch

Not sure what this offers, it says a prerequisite is an active ConnectedDrive service

What people really want to do is to be able to access the online services via a mobile using the phone's 3/4G connection rather than the car's SIM

Car SIM is active for every BMW which has active teleservices via the Combox Telematics, so what is wrong with the Car SIM?

Soul_Glo · 10-01-2017, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealth98

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquartch

Not sure what this offers, it says a prerequisite is an active ConnectedDrive service

What people really want to do is to be able to access the online services via a mobile using the phone's 3/4G connection rather than the car's SIM

Car SIM is active for every BMW which has active teleservices via the Combox Telematics, so what is wrong with the Car SIM?

You need to pay for services when you use the cars SIM. So if you tethered data from your mobile and made the appropriate coding changes you could have access to online services without a hefty subscription fee.

beamerfan · 03-12-2018, 03:06 AM

There is a way to code RTTI into any NBT BMW. I found a russian website, where all steps are explained.

You need e-Sys and a VIN which does support RTTI. Also you need to setup the SALAPA-Element in e-Sys.

Here is the original website. I used Google Translate to understand it:
https://www.drive2.ru/l/9425467

jrbuzaid · 08-24-2019, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beamerfan

There is a way to code RTTI into any NBT BMW. I found a russian website, where all steps are explained.

You need e-Sys and a VIN which does support RTTI. Also you need to setup the SALAPA-Element in e-Sys.

Here is the original website. I used Google Translate to understand it:
https://www.drive2.ru/l/9425467

I will try it!

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