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      02-25-2017, 02:41 PM   #1
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Polishing advice

So my 335d gt is now 4 months old and want to get the paintwork back to showroom standard. Just bought a das6 pro but as the paintwork is still in good condition do I need to polish or simply use a non abrasive polish and wax?
Looking at chemical guys pre cleanser wax or autofinesse rejuvenate.
HELP please what should I use?
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So my 335d gt is now 4 months old and want to get the paintwork back to showroom standard. Just bought a das6 pro but as the paintwork is still in good condition do I need to polish or simply use a non abrasive polish and wax?
Looking at chemical guys pre cleanser wax or autofinesse rejuvenate.
HELP please what should I use?
Welcome to a huge can of worms! You could literally spend days reading online about what's right and what's wrong to do. My personal advice would always be to use a good all in one product such as Auto Finesse Tripple or AutoGlym SRP, then top up that with a good coat of wax for gloss and protection.

I just spent about 2 days on my new 340i Estoril Blue a week or so ago. Whilst it was brand new and most would argue it didn't need doing, I wanted to machine polish it to correct any imperfections in the paint. Believe it or not it was quite heavily swirled so I was definitely glad I did it. I machine polished it with my DAS6 Pro, microfibre Meguiars pad and Menzerna FG400. Once that was done I finished off with Fusso wax, absolutely incredible stuff that. End results were fantastic, really really deep shine to the paint.

You could use your DAS6 to apply Tripple or SRP, you don't have to spent hours doing tonnes of passes over the panels if you go down that route as they are only really light polishes and will never achieve full correction but will certainly hide and mask any imperfections in the paint.
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If the paint is still in good condition which it should be at 4 months old I would suggest full decontamination with fallout remover/ tar remover etc and apply some Carpro Reload or Gtecniq C2.
Very easy to use with great glossy finish that lasts a good few months.
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Please make sure that you clay the car before machine polishing it first, this is very important.....
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Please make sure that you clay the car before machine polishing it first, this is very important.....
Couldn't agree more, sorry, I completely forgot to include that in my post. I used a Ferecla Clay Mitt as opposed to a traditional clay bar. Really impressed, much more economical than a normal clay bar and just as effective. Also with it being 4 month old it may be worth using some tar and iron fallout remover, just to make sure the paint is completely contaminant free.
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Couldn't agree more, sorry, I completely forgot to include that in my post. I used a Ferecla Clay Mitt as opposed to a traditional clay bar. Really impressed, much more economical than a normal clay bar and just as effective. Also with it being 4 month old it may be worth using some tar and iron fallout remover, just to make sure the paint is completely contaminant free.
Off to Google clay mitt......
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Thanks for the replies got clay bar kit ready just need to pick my polish to go with Autofinesse spirit wax. Has anyone used Maguires microfibre correction kit?
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I think you should consider reading up further on detailing forums if this is your first time polishing. You may want to even practice on a spare panel if you can.

A pre wax cleanser is like a liquid clay bar so chances are there will be very little to clay after this stage. It's all in the preparation so use a pre-wash like snow foam, then normal two bucket wash, pre-wax cleanser... clay...

Autofinesse Rejuvinate may be over kill on a new finish. I would suggest DoDo Juice Lime Prime Light. You need to remove the oils left by it so use some IPA after.

It depends how bad your paint is and how much cut you want. So on that note before any further advice should be given. How old is the car? Was that 4 months from new or used? General condition of paint is good but... Swirls? Scratches? Paint colour? Any protective coat on there already?

If no swirls or scratches or not many then consider a protective ceramic coat. There are loads out there that hold up stronger than a wax. Enjoy waxing? Collinite 845 is my recommendation. Have a favourite wax? Use that then spay on some Sonax NPT to get you through the next 3-6 months.

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Couldn't agree more, sorry, I completely forgot to include that in my post. I used a Ferecla Clay Mitt as opposed to a traditional clay bar. Really impressed, much more economical than a normal clay bar and just as effective. Also with it being 4 month old it may be worth using some tar and iron fallout remover, just to make sure the paint is completely contaminant free.
Yeah i prefer the clay mitt to a traditional clay bar, much easier and quicker. I just use a stronger diluted car wash rather than a detailing spray too, it's just like washing the car.
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Great advice here and I've never heard of a clay mitt before looks nice and easy, clayed my car last weekend in preparation for some polishing and it took ages with that little bar!

Found this review:

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=330602

Off to buy one now...

Oh and if you want to practice with the DAS first, do what I did and offer to polish a mates car for them, by the time I had finished I had the hang of it! (and fortunately I didn't damage the paintwork!) (and it was a ten year rusty Mazda so no loss either way!)
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Hi the sonax npt looks great but can this be used on top of a wax?
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Hi the sonax npt looks great but can this be used on top of a wax?
Yes sir
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I think you should consider reading up further on detailing forums if this is your first time polishing. You may want to even practice on a spare panel if you can.

A pre wax cleanser is like a liquid clay bar so chances are there will be very little to clay after this stage. It's all in the preparation so use a pre-wash like snow foam, then normal two bucket wash, pre-wax cleanser... clay...

Autofinesse Rejuvinate may be over kill on a new finish. I would suggest DoDo Juice Lime Prime Light. You need to remove the oils left by it so use some IPA after.

It depends how bad your paint is and how much cut you want. So on that note before any further advice should be given. How old is the car? Was that 4 months from new or used? General condition of paint is good but... Swirls? Scratches? Paint colour? Any protective coat on there already?

If no swirls or scratches or not many then consider a protective ceramic coat. There are loads out there that hold up stronger than a wax. Enjoy waxing? Collinite 845 is my recommendation. Have a favourite wax? Use that then spay on some Sonax NPT to get you through the next 3-6 months.
I use the Collinite 476 how is the 845 different please
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I use the Collinite 476 how is the 845 different please
I think the only difference is durability. The 845 is easier to work with and is their best seller.


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The 476s is the most durable product offered by Collinite, which is why it requires a little more rubbing and elbow grease.

What is the difference between the 845 and the 476s?

The 845 and 476s are made with the same ingredients, but the 476s lasts longer due to the fact that it has a higher concentration of natural and synthetic waxes. This is why the 476s is tougher to work with. The 845 has been Collinite’s overall best seller for 20 years due to the fact that it has excellent durability combined with an ease of use.

How long does your wax last?

Liquid/Gel Wax (845): 5-7 months depending on UV exposure.

Paste Wax (476): 9-11 Months depending on UV exposure.
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I think the only difference is durability. The 845 is easier to work with and is their best seller.
Nice one!

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Great advice here and I've never heard of a clay mitt before looks nice and easy, clayed my car last weekend in preparation for some polishing and it took ages with that little bar!

Found this review:

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=330602

Off to buy one now...

Oh and if you want to practice with the DAS first, do what I did and offer to polish a mates car for them, by the time I had finished I had the hang of it! (and fortunately I didn't damage the paintwork!) (and it was a ten year rusty Mazda so no loss either way!)
Me sold on the clay mitt too! Halfords in the morning I used to clay my Range Rover the old fashioned way. It was like doing the Forth rail bridge!
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Me sold on the clay mitt too! Halfords in the morning I used to clay my Range Rover the old fashioned way. It was like doing the Forth rail bridge!
Now that's commitment

Do you have a machine polisher?
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Now that's commitment

Do you have a machine polisher?

I've got one somewhere but not used it for ages. I think I will have to dig it out once the weather gets better. Having given the car its first wipe this year (lazily relied on the local Poles during the shite weather), the paint could do with a little TLC.
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I've got one somewhere but not used it for ages. I think I will have to dig it out once the weather gets better. Having given the car its first wipe this year (lazily relied on the local Poles during the shite weather), the paint could do with a little TLC.
Polish car wash...... Shame on you!
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Scholl S20 Black last year & O.C.D waxes last week
















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Piggin, thats looking like glass mate and those new wheels are looking mighty fine.


JLR, I know, I know. As punishment, I'll go to detention and wash my car properly 100 times
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I agree with JLR about using Polish car wash
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