[Kid_droid]

Hi All

I'm currently looking around for a 428i M sport manual. I live in the city (London area) where I do most of my driving and most of my daily commute tends to be 13 miles return. However every 6 six weeks I tend to do 350 mile round trip to other cities to visit old pals. I have come across a few 428i all 2013 with decent spec. All m sport.

First BMW used approved 428i 61k on the clock plus M sport braking system full history (mileage sounds a bit high for the age of the car)

Second 428i from slightly reputable (not BMW) dealer if reviews are to go by with 33k on the clock full history. Same price as first car.

Third 428i not BMW dealer 71k on the clock, plus 2k less in price than the other (abit too good to be true)

Is 50k plus mileage too high for a late 2013 petrol engine?

Some people have said why don't I just for a 420d, but I think don't drive enough on the motoways since I'm upgrading from 105 bhp car. Still a decent upgrade but price is not big enough to get more than 200 with out remapping etc?. Not keen on the diesel sound.

I'm currently 26 and no family at moment and feel like the is time to enjoy nature of a coupe although some people are saying why not just get 4 doors and an extra seat in the car so get a 328i f30? Do I really need 4 doors yet?. Don't want to be the friends under all the time.

The f32 looks so beautiful I must say but do appreciate the practical side of the f30 328i

Sorry if I sound so confused. First really big purchase and not finance so a bit nervous. Any advice would be appreciated .

Could prices fall in march ? I know 17 reg plate are coming in soon.

Thank you.

[samm134]

Why don't you test drive the F30 and F32 and see which one you prefer.

[robbiep]

As to prices falling much soon, bear in mind that in April new car tax rules come in - only for cars first registered on or after that date though.
However, that will make the '17' plate cars more expensive, and have the effect of increasing demand for, and pushing up values of 2016, 2015 cars. That effect will ripple further back, less effect each year, for earlier cars too.

[Kid_droid]

Thanks for the response, 4 series booked for test but 328i is a bit like gold dust in the manual right now. Other non BMW dealers are a bit tight with test drives so annoying. Thanks for that information about the new car tax laws real eye opener. Hopefully I find something i like by mid march if possible.

What is reasonable mileage for 2013 petrol f30/32?

Thanks again

[F30Andy]

Originally Posted by Kid_droid

Thanks for the response, 4 series booked for test but 328i is a bit like gold dust in the manual right now. Other non BMW dealers are a bit tight with test drives so annoying. Thanks for that information about the new car tax laws real eye opener. Hopefully I find something i like by mid march if possible.

What is reasonable mileage for 2013 petrol f30/32?

Thanks again

Use 10k to 15k a year as a guide for mileage.

[Twenty2Three]

76k on mine shes a November 2012 and runs like a dream.
More miles =less $$$$ to pay
Although the "PCP money no object brigade" will say otherwise is supect!

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by Kid_droid

Hi All

I'm currently looking around for a 428i M sport manual. I live in the city (London area) where I do most of my driving and most of my daily commute tends to be 13 miles return. However every 6 six weeks I tend to do 350 mile round trip to other cities to visit old pals. I have come across a few 428i all 2013 with decent spec. All m sport.

First BMW used approved 428i 61k on the clock plus M sport braking system full history (mileage sounds a bit high for the age of the car)

Second 428i from slightly reputable (not BMW) dealer if reviews are to go by with 33k on the clock full history. Same price as first car.

Third 428i not BMW dealer 71k on the clock, plus 2k less in price than the other (abit too good to be true)

Is 50k plus mileage too high for a late 2013 petrol engine?

Some people have said why don't I just for a 420d, but I think don't drive enough on the motoways since I'm upgrading from 105 bhp car. Still a decent upgrade but price is not big enough to get more than 200 with out remapping etc?. Not keen on the diesel sound.

I'm currently 26 and no family at moment and feel like the is time to enjoy nature of a coupe although some people are saying why not just get 4 doors and an extra seat in the car so get a 328i f30? Do I really need 4 doors yet?. Don't want to be the friends under all the time.

The f32 looks so beautiful I must say but do appreciate the practical side of the f30 328i

Sorry if I sound so confused. First really big purchase and not finance so a bit nervous. Any advice would be appreciated .

Could prices fall in march ? I know 17 reg plate are coming in soon.

Thank you.

Best advice I could give is to sort out your confusion before you buy. Every so often there are posts buy members who buy a car and soon after regret it and want something else. It's a big decision. Don't rush it based on the car thats right in front of you. There is always another one right around the corner. Get what you want.

If your trying to decide between the 3 and the 4, check out the 4 Gran Coupe. Maybe you don't have to compromise.

Good luck!

[MashinBenzin]

Yes, if torn between F30 and F32, then try the F36 Gran Coupe.

Take your time finding the right car and have a few test drives first to see what you like. Don't be pressured into buying the first car that you enjoy on the test drive...there will be plenty more around the corner and they are only ever going to get cheaper!

[goodbyalfa]

And make sure while you are at it you try out one of the fantastic BMW 6 pots .. Any of them!!!

[Kid_droid]

Originally Posted by goodbyalfa

And make sure while you are at it you try out one of the fantastic BMW 6 pots .. Any of them!!!

As much as the six pot sounds amazing, I don't know if my happy foot can afford the costs in the long run haha. 100+ bhp upgrade on my current jap automobile would be the first big leap.

Since I am not on a PCP type of deal, the Grand coupe is a bit out of my budget at the moment, but I might just test drive one while I am at it.

Thanks for that mileage target, might aim for mileage under 60K.

This is really helpful, I have been scared to post thinking i would be crucified for wanting a 4 pot bmw as seen in some threads.

[rich100]

Originally Posted by Kid_droid

As much as the six pot sounds amazing, I don't know if my happy foot can afford the costs in the long run haha. 100+ bhp upgrade on my current jap automobile would be the first big leap.

Since I am not on a PCP type of deal, the Grand coupe is a bit out of my budget at the moment, but I might just test drive one while I am at it.

Thanks for that mileage target, might aim for mileage under 60K.

This is really helpful, I have been scared to post thinking i would be crucified for wanting a 4 pot bmw as seen in some threads.

No ones going to "crucify" you mate so don't be afraid to speak up.Much of it's just banter anyway.

Just research and buy the car that best works for you, the vast majority of the advice you will find here will be extremely useful , let us know how you get on

[robbiep]

Regards fuel economy, bear in mind that a 20i/28i is usually somewhere around 33/36 mpg. A 35i would be more like 28/30 mpg - though I expect that to get shot down in flames by someone saying "But I got 45mpg on a run in my 335i (neglecting to say it was at a constant 60mph with a monster tailwind)

You aren't going to get those figures though. Most of your driving in London with lots more traffic, you'd probably be looking at 25/27 for the 20i/28i, and 20/23 for the 35i.
So the economy penalty isn't going to be as extreme as you think. You tend to find that the bigger-engined cars get specced better too.

[Sasquartch]

I have an auto 328i. Now has 38k miles on 12 plate
My commute of 24 miles is where I do most of my miles is about 50% motorway and an easy drive. I average around 40mpg
However the economy drops right off as soon as you spend any time in town so I'd expect no more than 30mpg around London
Nice smooth engine although with direct injection can sound almost dieselly at idle although no vibration unlike a real diesel.
Id guess a lot of x28i's were privately owned so might be some with decent options, mine was privately owned and in Luxury trim with pro media and the all round cameras which is a nice touch, a lot of x20d's are ex fleet and base spec
But as said, go with whatever finance you're comfortable with and test drive a few different models

[MrChumley]

The 28i is a nice engine, and mine doesn't sound anything like a diesel!

It's also way more powerful than the old 2 litre 6 pots, so I wouldn't worry too much about the number of cylinders.

[Ice Man]

Originally Posted by robbiep

Regards fuel economy, bear in mind that a 20i/28i is usually somewhere around 33/36 mpg. A 35i would be more like 28/30 mpg - though I expect that to get shot down in flames by someone saying "But I got 45mpg on a run in my 335i (neglecting to say it was at a constant 60mph with a monster tailwind)

You aren't going to get those figures though. Most of your driving in London with lots more traffic, you'd probably be looking at 25/27 for the 20i/28i, and 20/23 for the 35i.
So the economy penalty isn't going to be as extreme as you think. You tend to find that the bigger-engined cars get specced better too.

I wish I got 28/30 mpg out of my 35i ;-/ Although I suspect It might be me thta is the weak link in the economy equation

[Isow]

My 328i is now 5 years old.
I'm very happy with it. In 2012 there were lots of ex BMW used cars used as launch vehicles.
These cars were very high spec with £9K worth of extras on them.
Try and seek out one of those, but I think that most were automatics.

[Kid_droid]

Originally Posted by Isow

My 328i is now 5 years old.
I'm very happy with it. In 2012 there were lots of ex BMW used cars used as launch vehicles.
These cars were very high spec with £9K worth of extras on them.
Try and seek out one of those, but I think that most were automatics.

I'm definitely seeing a little bit more autos. Why has the auto become so popular lately? The 28i feels like the forbidden fruit in between the 20i and 35i so rare to find now. This search has taking me deep in to 2 months of deciding. Hopefully March will be the month to join this ultimate driving experience. I I would love the hi specs. So will keep those 2012 cars in sight too.

[Soul_Glo]

Originally Posted by Kid_droid

I'm definitely seeing a little bit more autos. Why has the auto become so popular lately? The 28i feels like the forbidden fruit in between the 20i and 35i so rare to find now. This search has taking me deep in to 2 months of deciding. Hopefully March will be the month to join this ultimate driving experience. I I would love the hi specs. So will keep those 2012 cars in sight too.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/owne...ing/ar-BBwHYFp


That's why!

The 420i is economical and the 428i just slightly less. In a London city trawl the 420i wins. The 2.0 will be adequate in city conditions.

In some ways these mid way engines annoy me. The 428i is like the no mans land. It is neither more powerful than the 430i nor more economical than the 420i and in some instances the 430i. So one could argue being better off in the 430i instead of a 428i. However, each to their own needs.

[2CRO4TV]

Originally Posted by Broken_Gearbox

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/owne...ing/ar-BBwHYFp


That's why!

The 420i is economical and the 428i just slightly less. In a London city trawl the 420i wins. The 2.0 will be adequate in city conditions.

In some ways these mid way engines annoy me. The 428i is like the no mans land. It is neither more powerful than the 430i nor more economical than the 420i and in some instances the 430i. So one could argue being better off in the 430i instead of a 428i. However, each to their own needs.

428i became the 430i as part of the lci refresh with improved numbers (7hp increase and better economy) so a comparison between both is mute.

OP - I had an e90 320i and changed that for my f30 328i, the f30 is more than economical if driven in Comfort or Eco pro but drinks petrol in sport but as you are in London that should not be an issue. Drive the auto as I was pleasantly surprised with mine coming from a manual

IMHO the 28i/30i is perfect for low mileage (>30 miles) inner city commutes but has the necessary power for our roads. It will never be as economical as a 30d but is as fast without the dpf issues that short runs would cause in a diesel.

Lastly install the MPE and you will smile when you start your car or drive in sports or Eco pro. Finishes the car in my opinion.

To the 6 cyl brigade I chose my 28i over a 35i/40i as the difference in speed between the two is negated by the handling difference with the 28i handling a lot better.

[Kid_droid]

Originally Posted by 2CRO4TV

428i became the 430i as part of the lci refresh with improved numbers (7hp increase and better economy) so a comparison between both is mute.

OP - I had an e90 320i and changed that for my f30 328i, the f30 is more than economical if driven in Comfort or Eco pro but drinks petrol in sport but as you are in London that should not be an issue. Drive the auto as I was pleasantly surprised with mine coming from a manual

IMHO the 28i/30i is perfect for low mileage (>30 miles) inner city commutes but has the necessary power for our roads. It will never be as economical as a 30d but is as fast without the dpf issues that short runs would cause in a diesel.

Lastly install the MPE and you will smile when you start your car or drive in sports or Eco pro. Finishes the car in my opinion.

To the 6 cyl brigade I chose my 28i over a 35i/40i as the difference in speed between the two is negated by the handling difference with the 28i handling a lot better.

I have found that article interesting, so the European/UK driver has also become ever so interested in the automatic as well. To my ignorance, I really thought it was an American thing as many never enter a manual transmission car. To its own if I do see and well spec'd I shall give it a try.

To my understanding there is not a lot of difference between the 28i or 30i if there is only 7 bhp between them. So would rather buy the slightly cheaper out going model to save me extra pennies to add fun mods. I have heard the MPE on video but yet to hear in real life. Does sound sweet and would be to consider.

I have decided the diesel won't suit my driving, I do a lot of dryiving for the city but too many stop starts without budgeting for a looming dpf issue.

Have most of you stuck to runflats while owning the car in the UK? That will be a new experience for me as well.

[330Stevie]

Originally Posted by Lobb

It's the same as the 430d, which is in a no man's land between the 420d and 435d.

The 428i has the same performance as the 430d, delivered in a different way, but handles and brakes better.

Not trolling here; but couldn't disagree more. X30d is sweet spot in range.

To OP, Id get as high up the engine range as you can but only if the long term cost stack up. I drove x20, x30 & x35 before settling. Don't rush it mate and try all.

[k44ENT]

All I can say is that I miss my 328i F31. I sold it in search of some straight 6 fun and both cars turned out to be duds. I'm now back in a diesel which I like but petrol is where my heart is. The 328i is a great motor, not as economical on short runs as advertised, the 330i improves on this and is a cracking engine. It is where my money would go if it was in your budget. My 328i was on 19's with Goodyear run flats, with adaptive dampers it was spot on.