Another oil question thread

gunnerxq · 05-06-2016, 12:10 PM

Can I use this oil in the summer? Performance impacts? Ex. Fuel economy
https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E90-32...Moly/ES258726/

Greyfox · 05-06-2016, 12:14 PM

According to that jug, it meets BMW-Longlife98...

According to BMW....

BMW Longlife-98 (BMW LL-98)Special long-life engine oil, approved by BMW. Also meets ACEA A3/B3, API SJ/CD, EC SAE 5W-40. Usually required for BMWs manufactured before MY 2002. Obsolete since 2009.

jt335i · 05-06-2016, 01:18 PM

Use whatever you want as long as it has the following on the bottle:

BMW Longlife-01 (BMW LL-01)
BMW Longlife-01 FE (BMW LL-01 FE)

gunnerxq · 05-06-2016, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greyfox

According to that jug, it meets BMW-Longlife98...

According to BMW....

BMW Longlife-98 (BMW LL-98)Special long-life engine oil, approved by BMW. Also meets ACEA A3/B3, API SJ/CD, EC SAE 5W-40. Usually required for BMWs manufactured before MY 2002. Obsolete since 2009.

So this oil isn't recommended? The ratings are obsolete?

Brettb1234 · 05-06-2016, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunnerxq

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greyfox

According to that jug, it meets BMW-Longlife98...

According to BMW....

BMW Longlife-98 (BMW LL-98)Special long-life engine oil, approved by BMW. Also meets ACEA A3/B3, API SJ/CD, EC SAE 5W-40. Usually required for BMWs manufactured before MY 2002. Obsolete since 2009.

So this oil isn't recommended? The ratings are obsolete?

Users manual for 2011 3 series says:

"Approved oils can be identified by the following specification:

Preferred: LL01 or LL01 FE

Alternatively: LL98"

Whatever that means I'm not sure.
Doesn't elaborate any further than that other than it saying you can use up to 1 quart of non approved oils with API SM or higher but that's oil with no LL spec.

VTECaddict · 05-07-2016, 03:19 AM

What's your reasoning to want to run that oil instead of cheaper and more available LL-01 oils like Castrol Edge 0w40 (<$30 for 5qt at Walmart) or even BMW branded oil?

gunnerxq · 05-07-2016, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTECaddict

What's your reasoning to want to run that oil instead of cheaper and more available LL-01 oils like Castrol Edge 0w40 (<$30 for 5qt at Walmart) or even BMW branded oil?

Slight oil burn up.

Brettb1234 · 05-07-2016, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnerxq

Slight oil burn up.

Liqui Moly has 5w-40 that is LL-01 and Castrol has a 0w-40 that is LL-01 and pretty inexpensive at that.

Greyfox · 05-07-2016, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brettb1234

Liqui Moly has 5w-40 that is LL-01 and Castrol has a 0w-40 that is LL-01 and pretty inexpensive at that.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-liqui_mo...iter/2331~liq/

gunnerxq · 05-23-2016, 03:25 PM

So this is what I noticed so far with oil burn off with 5w-30 weights with my car from worst to best:

-Valvoline full synthetic High milage-the worst needed a quart every few hundred miles

-Pennzoil Ultra Hyper-pretty bad right next to the valvoline.

-Liqui-Moly-not bad but not the best. Quart every 3-4k miles.

-Valvoline SynPower- was one of the best. A Quart every 5-6k miles.

Now I'm trying Pennzoil Platinum with natural gas and so far so good. I'm hoping it'll be in the Liqui-Moly, SynPower range but I doubt it. It'll probably be behind Liqui-Moly.

Next I'll try Pennzoil Ultra Platinum with natural gas and I'll see how that goes.

Again this was only my observation with different 5w-30 weight oils.

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gunnerxq Lieutenant Colonel 213 Rep 1,782 Posts Drives: e90 "325i" Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: New York iTrader: (1)	So this is what I noticed so far with oil burn off with 5w-30 weights with my car from worst to best: -Valvoline full synthetic High milage-the worst needed a quart every few hundred miles -Pennzoil Ultra Hyper-pretty bad right next to the valvoline. -Liqui-Moly-not bad but not the best. Quart every 3-4k miles. -Valvoline SynPower- was one of the best. A Quart every 5-6k miles. Now I'm trying Pennzoil Platinum with natural gas and so far so good. I'm hoping it'll be in the Liqui-Moly, SynPower range but I doubt it. It'll probably be behind Liqui-Moly. Next I'll try Pennzoil Ultra Platinum with natural gas and I'll see how that goes. Again this was only my observation with different 5w-30 weight oils. __________________ Koni special active red, eibach pro-kit springs, Remus exhaust, stage 3 intake manifold,Stage 2 AA tune, BMW Short shift kit. Silicon intake pipe. M3 control arms front, M3 rear. ECS trailing arm with whiteline bushings. Purple powerflex subframe bushings. Yellow power flex upper shock mounts. Single mass flywheel OE weight.
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