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      04-06-2016, 08:55 PM   #1
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Bought a crashed 2009 335i at auction, opinions?**UPDATED 4/13/2016 **

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I did some disassembly today and found the crash damaged alot less than i originally anticipated. the crash beam was missed completely ,and the subframe was not cracked , bent or damaged in any way. it seems the control arms and sway bar took the most damage, the tire, wheel, knuckle, and brakes all seem in excellent condition !

the car came with intakes, BOV, downpipes, and aftermarket FMIC. which is sweet because i would have done everything but the BOV eventually anyways, the jb4 must have been removed but not the end of the world...

now to the bad...

the tire was pushed back into the inner fender and damaged it
this is the part i need to replace...

https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Sit...68980/ES70626/

I have found lots of the parts on realoem.com and although not too expensive i have some questions for you guys on where to buy the bmw tools needed to complete this repair correctly !

i have done research and know all about the rivets, and the adhesive , but how is the old part removed ? and where is the best place to purchase these tools to do this correctly?

also in the accident the windshield, as well as sunroof were broken, leading to water getting in the dashboard, and floor while it sat at the auction salvage lot the obvious at this point is that i need to dry this car out!! and my real question is, what kind of electronic damage could happen from the dash getting water? anything that would prevent the car from running? just wondering everyones take on this aspec of the repair on an e9x....

with the roof having a nice dent in it, what is the best way to repair that? i was thinking of buying something along the lines of this stud welder to pull it out . will this type of repair work for the alloy that bmws are made out of ?http://www.harborfreight.com/stud-we...kit-61433.html


sorry for the long post guys here are some pics, and any advice on this repair "build" will be greatly appreciated!



this is the inner fender that i will likely have to replace and am curious as to the correct way to remove the damaged section, and replace with new

https://pix.sfly.com/SuX4UF

https://pix.sfly.com/bRGYhG

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      04-06-2016, 10:07 PM   #2
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I see many airbags deployed. That's not going to be cheap. Good luck.

Water on the dashboard could fry a lot of expensive electronic (most notably the ECU, but many other modules are under the glovebox and along the firewall, water leaks have been known to inflict severe damage in that area). Get everything dry before even trying to start the car. You'll know soon enough if you have serious electrical damage after that.
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Also it looks like they have the additional oil cooler, aka "PPK Version 2" - option code 840 or S840. Double check the vin at any BMW vin lookup site to confirm.

AFAIK that is a $1,000+ replacement alone.
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You have to buy a drill and drill out the spot welds one by one. Make sure you buy a metal bit and dont burn it out.

Then you can remove the old glue and pry the old part out. Use the new part to align the rest of the car as its aligned and undamaged. Post pics of the roof.

Water damage is bad worst thing is electrical corrosion. So yeah dry and clean everything out before even connecting it to a battery. As meeni mentioned airbags are expensive.
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I see many airbags deployed. That's not going to be cheap. Good luck.

Water on the dashboard could fry a lot of expensive electronic (most notably the ECU, but many other modules are under the glovebox and along the firewall, water leaks have been known to inflict severe damage in that area). Get everything dry before even trying to start the car. You'll know soon enough if you have serious electrical damage after that.

no airbags were deployed ! i have to take more pictures to show you but the windshield was just smashed from an exterior object, person , or animal !

as far as the water i have a dehumidifier , fans, and my garage is linked to the central air of my home. so hopefully i can get alot of the moisture out that way before starting the car(with a new oil cooler and oil obviously ) , i figure ill give it a few days and try and dry the carpets and such, im really hoping that there isnt electrical damage, if there is youll be sure to hear about it


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Also it looks like they have the additional oil cooler, aka "PPK Version 2" - option code 840 or S840. Double check the vin at any BMW vin lookup site to confirm.

AFAIK that is a $1,000+ replacement alone.
yes ! the car does indeed have an oil cooler, $1000??

https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Sit...h/17227521376/


it looks like the retrofit is 1000, all i need is the cooler $325, the rest was undamaged



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You have to buy a drill and drill out the spot welds one by one. Make sure you buy a metal bit and dont burn it out.

Then you can remove the old glue and pry the old part out. Use the new part to align the rest of the car as its aligned and undamaged. Post pics of the roof.

Water damage is bad worst thing is electrical corrosion. So yeah dry and clean everything out before even connecting it to a battery. As meeni mentioned airbags are expensive.
do you know where i can buy that rivet tool to attach the new piece on ? and what do i use to remove the glue its fairly hard, heat gun??

yikes i should probably disconnect the battery .....when i got the car from the yard, the door windows went down as i opened the doors, the trunk opened...and the interior lights go on fully....i just dont have keys ...ill go disconnect it to try and avoid any damage while its still wet. gosh i really dont wanna take that dash apart but .....if i do i guess thats the price to pay for an auction car...

while im on the subject how much are the typical electrical components damaged along the firewall?? are we talking 1000s?
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You have to buy a drill and drill out the spot welds one by one. Make sure you buy a metal bit and dont burn it out.

Then you can remove the old glue and pry the old part out. Use the new part to align the rest of the car as its aligned and undamaged. Post pics of the roof.

Water damage is bad worst thing is electrical corrosion. So yeah dry and clean everything out before even connecting it to a battery. As meeni mentioned airbags are expensive.
picture of the main roof damage other than the glass and minor scratches/scuffs

https://pix.sfly.com/JTXWpD
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The BMW approved method for repairing that fender support is to use their blind rivet and adhesive system. You're going to pay way more for that stuff than if you just buy a mig welder and plug weld the new support. Also, there's two pieces of sheet metal that make up that fender support. The part you posted is the largest of the two.
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The BMW approved method for repairing that fender support is to use their blind rivet and adhesive system. You're going to pay way more for that stuff than if you just buy a mig welder and plug weld the new support. Also, there's two pieces of sheet metal that make up that fender support. The part you posted is the largest of the two.
i was having trouble finding the second piece ...ill search the real oem catalog later tonight after work.

well just how much money are we talking for these specialty tools? i may plan on doing more bmw repair work in the future, i already have a mig welder...

where can i get these tools ?
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i was having trouble finding the second piece ...ill search the real oem catalog later tonight after work.

well just how much money are we talking for these specialty tools? i may plan on doing more bmw repair work in the future, i already have a mig welder...

where can i get these tools ?
I couldn't find a source for the blind rivet tool when I was looking at the same repair. You can get 3M panel adhesive and the applicator gun from just about anywhere online which I believe is basically the same thing any BMW body shop would use. My fender support was bent down about four inches at the core support so I was able to just use some heat and a big hammer to move it back. If that didn't work I was going to get the 3M adhesive and plug weld new sheet metal.
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Also it looks like they have the additional oil cooler, aka "PPK Version 2" - option code 840 or S840. Double check the vin at any BMW vin lookup site to confirm.
Firstly, the pictures show the passenger-side front fender. The oil cooler installed in that area is the ordinary Sport Package oil cooler. It has nothing to do with any PPK. If I remember correctly, in e92 this is standard equipment, nothing "additional" about it. (It would be an option in e90).

Secondly, PPK brings an additional water cooler, not oil cooler. Water cooler goes into the driver-side fender area.

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Would never find myself buying a car of this kind.

Good luck OP.
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as far as the water i have a dehumidifier , fans, and my garage is linked to the central air of my home.
Yikes, is that to code? For that to work the air return has to suck in air from the garage and spread it throughout the house.
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Yikes, is that to code? For that to work the air return has to suck in air from the garage and spread it throughout the house.
Including all the carbon monoxide.
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I always looked at it like wicked hardcore lobstermen and weekend warriors (my buddy took me out on his Boston Whaler and we got screamed at for a) speeding b) getting to close to other boats' gear

pros are looking to flip salvage vehicles, so you're likely competing with them at the auction...they have the equipment to restore these vehicles, just don't have the time and won't pay more than they're worth at auction...but it's ok to do it if it's fun, kinda like playing stocks with money you can lose...
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Including all the carbon monoxide.
Helps the kids sleep I guess.
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Including all the carbon monoxide.
what's the deal with people claiming that due to the push to start buttons, they forget to shut the vehicles off, and then CO spreads throughout their homes and kills them......is it like the Prius or balloon boy thing?
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Curious, how do you know it had a JB4 installed previously?
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Firstly, the pictures show the passenger-side front fender. The oil cooler installed in that area is the ordinary Sport Package oil cooler. It has nothing to do with any PPK. If I remember correctly, in e92 this is standard equipment, nothing "additional" about it. (It would be an option in e90).

Secondly, PPK brings an additional water cooler, not oil cooler. Water cooler goes into the driver-side fender area.
You're right - I got myself a bit mixed up.

The part I was referring to that is seen damaged is indeed the additional oil cooler (or option code S840/840) but it is not a part of the PPK package.

It is, however, a requirement for getting the PPK so in that sense it does have something to do with it, just not directly part of it.
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Curious, how do you know it had a JB4 installed previously?
Well it has the parts advertised on the website for jb4 , the box was unlocked like someone quickly pulled the jb4 out before the crashed car got towed ... Really just speculation but it had to have some sort of tuning with all the parts . ..

To the central air question... Please don't flame but I cut the sheetrock in the garage and put a big metal fan right up To it pumping air from my basement into the garage , plenty of cm alarms in my home too ...not worried lol
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Was the car running or you bought it off the tow truck ? Year ? Miles ?
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