[E90ALLMANUAL]

Let's have a a discussion about this. We have a company(Schroth) that it's worldwide leader in safety claiming that it is safe. And then we have forum members that argue they are not.

Whatever your opinion is, please provide evidence to support it.

I would like to know from members who have use them. I also read in other post about some organizations not allowing them. Which ones?

Thank you.

[justpete]

Originally Posted by E90ALLMANUAL

Let's have a a discussion about this. We have a company(Schroth) that it's worldwide leader in safety claiming that it is safe. And then we have forum members that argue they are not.

Whatever your opinion is, please provide evidence to support it.

I would like to know from members who have use them. I also read in other post about some organizations not allowing them. Which ones?

Thank you.

Seriously? Trust them or not, your call.

[Kgolf31]

I run one.

With that being said, I will only run mine while autocrossing, since speeds are relatively low and very safe (I.E. Off course and spinning in to no mans land).

I will not wear my harness on the track unless I have a HANS device (I have the Quick-Fit Pro which is HANS compatible) and probably an actual roll bar/cage

[E90ALLMANUAL]

Originally Posted by justpete

Seriously? Trust them or not, your call.

I made this post to have a serious discussion. What is your point?

[SeanS54]

Originally Posted by E90ALLMANUAL

I made this post to have a serious discussion. What is your point?

I run them on track with my Necksgen Hans device. I have a DIY up on my youtube channel if you want to see the install.

I've done a ton of research and from what I've found:
1) they have anti submarine technology so you won't slide under the belt in a crash

2) they hold you in tight so you don't slide around in your seat which gives you better control

Some will argue that in a roll over these belts will hold you upright so you can't lean over if the roof collapses. However, research shows that most damage is done with side to side thrashing (factory 3-point belt) rather than the roof collapsing.

With that said, my future plans are a roll cage as I continue to evolve this car into a track car.

[justpete]

Originally Posted by E90ALLMANUAL

I made this post to have a serious discussion. What is your point?

Lemme get this straight, you'd rather take seriously the opinions of users rather than the test results of the manufacturer who stands liable for any injury sustained due to their negligence in testing? This then isn't a serious discussion, that's my point. Do enjoy though.

[E90ALLMANUAL]

Originally Posted by justpete

Lemme get this straight, you'd rather take seriously the opinions of users rather than the test results of the manufacturer who stands liable for any injury sustained due to their negligence in testing? This then isn't a serious discussion, that's my point. Do enjoy though.

You are not helping. Can you prove that Schroth(a worldwide leader in safety equipment) is selling an unsafe product?

On a side note. Look at the E9X M3 video on the news section and pay attention at the angle of the harness. Which it's a Schroth harness BTW. I don't think is the quick fit though.

[Kong Sheng Han]

My reasoning for using them: I trust Schroth.

Street: 3-point
Autocross: QFP
Track: QFP with HANS

The QFP actually doesn't hold me in place enough at the track anymore. I notice that I try to brace myself more and more using the dead pedal, so HALO seats are next. Then bolt-in half cage. Safety is priority for me, so these will come before other spendy mods.