[Total madness]

Hi all,

Just received the product information from my advisor (friend) that works at a BMW dealership.

Anyhow, pricing starts at 61k$cad

Therefore, i doubt any will leave the dealer lot for under 70k before tx.

There is no way it's worth 15k$ more than a m235i in my view.

[Lt1camaro]

Hmm? its 61k fully loaded from what i've heard, you cannot get any additional packaged except for the DCT for 3.9k. So it will be either 61k or 64k depending on your transmission choice. Not over 70k.

[Total madness]

Originally Posted by Lt1camaro

Hmm? its 61k fully loaded from what i've heard, you cannot get any additional packaged except for the DCT for 3.9k

61k$base
2k$ dealer admin. Transport etc
4k$ dct
800$ color
Here you're almost at 70k$ ;-)

[gthal]

Originally Posted by Total madness

61k$base
2k$ dealer admin. Transport etc
4k$ dct
800$ color
Here you're almost at 70k$ ;-)

You missed the pages of discussion in the other thread...

So it's $15,000 more than a non-M car, the M235i. It's also $30,000 less than a comparably equipped M4. Seems like a bargain to me. It's likely a lot closer to the M4 in performance yet closer to the M235i in price... WIN!!

The M235i isn't the car the M2 will be and if someone doesn't see the value difference, that's OK because it likely means the M2 wasn't really the right car anyway. I'd gladly pay the spread (and more) between the M235i (which is really isn't a track oriented or track capable car... it's a 2 series with more stuff but not that much in the way of true performance items) to get the performance and capability of the M2. But, if someone never cares to go near a track, sure, the M235i is great. For those into M cars, I think the general view is the price is VERY good value.

[metrickid]

Originally Posted by gthal

You missed the pages of discussion in the other thread...

It is easy to miss 292 replies!

[gthal]

Originally Posted by Rossifumi

It is easy to miss 292 replies!

Especially when the M2 is ONLY $15,000 more than their m235i Just kidding OP

[Spook410]

Umm.. hasn't anybody noticed that $61,000 CAD is $43,750 in US dollars or 40,009 euros?

[SW19]

Originally Posted by Total madness

61k$base
2k$ dealer admin. Transport etc
4k$ dct
800$ color
Here you're almost at 70k$ ;-)

Did you really need to create a thread for this info?You should have just posted your opinion in the Canadian pricing thread.

I think it is actually a very good price.The base Canadian M2 is basically fully loaded and is only $1100 more than the M235i performance edition,that wasn't even a real M car.

[SW19]

Originally Posted by Spook410

Umm.. hasn't anybody noticed that $61,000 CAD is $43,750 in US dollars or 40,009 euros?

Exactly,how can anyone complain about the price?There is also going to be a $1000 price increase on the M3 and M4 in Canada,starting January 1,2016.The M2 price will not change in the new year.

[gtaM2]

Originally Posted by Total madness

Hi all,

Just received the product information from my advisor (friend) that works at a BMW dealership.

Anyhow, pricing starts at 61k$cad

Therefore, i doubt any will leave the dealer lot for under 70k before tx.

There is no way it's worth 15k$ more than a m235i in my view.

its not even 15K more, add the premium package and executive package that the M235 does not come with standard and the difference is like 8K , this is a steal...i was one of the few that was guessing MSRP under 60K but i did not imagine that the price would be close to 60K fully loaded, take off the packages from the M2 (using the M235i costing) and the MSRP of the M2 is 54K!!!, insanely cheap to the point that i am now worried about allocations

[Spook410]

MSRP for a M3 in Canada is $74000 CAD or $53155 USD (doesn't include destination, did not check options, fees). The MSRP for a M3 in the US is $63,200 USD in a base configuration. The ratio of US to Canadian MSRP for the M3 is 1.19. Apply this ratio to the $61,000CAD/$43,800USD MSRP for the Canadian M2 and you get $52,077USD for a possible US M2 MSRP. This would be minus destination but if it matched the Canadian option list, theoretically with everything but DCT and paint. Conjecture.. but possible.

[gthal]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

Did you really need to create a thread for this info?You should have just posted your opinion in the Canadian pricing thread.

I think it is actually a very good price.The base Canadian M2 is basically fully loaded and is only $1100 more than the M235i performance edition,that wasn't even a real M car.

Yeah... forgot the performance edition car. It looked nice and had some nice performance bits but was clearly not a real M car even if it was only $1,100 less than an M2. It was kind of an odd decision for BMW to build that car but they know more about marketing and that stuff than I do

[Dabozo]

I was being pushed into a performance edition for 61k several months ago. Would never of bitten knowing the m2 was around the corner...but now knowing m2 price (fully loaded no less), I would be one pissed off camper lol!!

[Total madness]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

I was being pushed into a performance edition for 61k several months ago. Would never of bitten knowing the m2 was around the corner...but now knowing m2 price (fully loaded no less), I would be one pissed off camper lol!!

Not cool... Nevertheless, the performance edition is a great pick, just a little too expensive i guess.
Still a rare piece you got there, i hope it retains value ?

[Dabozo]

Didn't buy it.

[Total madness]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

Didn't buy it.

Ouf... Thx god then ;-)

[jc9elfer]

Agreed.... I walked into my BMW dealership ready to order an M4. I was willing to pay $100K for the car. I saw the M235i in the showroom and started asking questions leading me to the M2 order...I believe i can get 98% of the M4 out of the M2 for $15-20K less even if I add some key M performance parts and with the help of Dinan....
It is all worth it for the more compact M2 IMHO.

[bobby66]

Amazing price, I would need to test drive it to feel if there is an actual difference between my tuned m235i xdrive. Is it worth the upgrade?

If you are looking for the performance edition, there is a guy selling one. If you add a tune to the m235i, it is a beast. Not sure what happened but guy is selling at a loss...

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/m...ationFlag=true

[gthal]

Originally Posted by bobby66

Amazing price, I would need to test drive it to feel if there is an actual difference between my tuned m235i xdrive. Is it worth the upgrade?

If you are looking for the performance edition, there is a guy selling one. If you add a tune to the m235i, it is a beast. Not sure what happened but guy is selling at a loss...

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/m...ationFlag=true

My guess is it is absolutely a meaningful upgrade depending on how you use the car... no different than going from a 335i to an M3. The "m" in front of the m235i is, as we know, more of a looks than a function package. Even the performance edition has some upgrades but not what the M2 will have... between the rear diff, brakes, suspension, bracing, track width, etc... a lot more than just power. However, for someone who never tracks the car and likes to stop light race, the M2 probably isn't enough of an upgrade over the m235i with a tune... unless you like the wider and more aggressive look the M2 will have.

[Benzima]

Originally Posted by bobby66

Amazing price, I would need to test drive it to feel if there is an actual difference between my tuned m235i xdrive. Is it worth the upgrade?

If you are looking for the performance edition, there is a guy selling one. If you add a tune to the m235i, it is a beast. Not sure what happened but guy is selling at a loss...

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/m...ationFlag=true

If you have the opportunity to drive a 1M, you will there is no comparison possible between a regular model and a ///M model. I am sure the M2 will be in a completely different class too!

[bobby66]

Originally Posted by gthal

My guess is it is absolutely a meaningful upgrade depending on how you use the car... no different than going from a 335i to an M3. The "m" in front of the m235i is, as we know, more of a looks than a function package. Even the performance edition has some upgrades but not what the M2 will have... between the rear diff, brakes, suspension, bracing, track width, etc... a lot more than just power. However, for someone who never tracks the car and likes to stop light race, the M2 probably isn't enough of an upgrade over the m235i with a tune... unless you like the wider and more aggressive look the M2 will have.

Great analysis indeed, a bit of history, my previous old car was a 328, it broke down and replaced it with the 235i which has become my DD + winter beater. I track the car maybe once a year, I do go on frequent car group cruises around GTA and traveling to ottawa/montreal. Coming from a 328, m235i was a huge upgrade, I tried the m4/m3 and it was amazing but I do not think I would enjoy it beating it up in Toronto potholes and traffic. Plus I would be super paranoid parking it downtown on the streets, someone will definitely scratch it no doubt about it

As a m4 owner are theses things you have to deal with? Would like to understand your opinions.

[gthal]

Originally Posted by bobby66

Great analysis indeed, a bit of history, my previous old car was a 328, it broke down and replaced it with the 235i which has become my DD + winter beater. I track the car maybe once a year, I do go on frequent car group cruises around GTA and traveling to ottawa/montreal. Coming from a 328, m235i was a huge upgrade, I tried the m4/m3 and it was amazing but I do not think I would enjoy it beating it up in Toronto potholes and traffic. Plus I would be super paranoid parking it downtown on the streets, someone will definitely scratch it no doubt about it

As a m4 owner are theses things you have to deal with? Would like to understand your opinions.

I like a sports car "feel" all of the time... in winter, summer, pothole season and the track. My M4 is a 4 season (and frequent track) car and I love that about it. So, my opinions on this are probably not useful

For example, to me worrying about scratches and little dings is something I don't do... it's a car and I use it everyday and those things will happen. Big ones can be fixed and little things I ignore. Not saying I don't take care of the car (I absolutely do) but it isn't a garage queen Ferrari or something like that... it's my DD and I enjoy that experience more than worrying about collateral damage