Good bye 6 pot Porche

ZeroFx · 12-10-2015, 05:58 AM

Boxster and Cayman to only be 4 pot turbos.

Only the hot models will come in 6 pot NA..

Good luck selling a 55k basic car with a 4 pot turbo out of the TT lol

Broncho · 12-10-2015, 06:00 AM

They'll sell as many as they did before.

ZeroFx · 12-10-2015, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncho

They'll sell as many as they did before.

Im not so sure. 4 pot turbos sound like shit. look like sewing machines and dont exactly rev to 7500rpm very well if at all.

Hardly a 55k car is it when it comes with that.

NISFAN · 12-10-2015, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroFx

Boxster and Cayman to only be 4 pot turbos.

Only the hot models will come in 6 pot NA..

Good luck selling a 55k basic car with a 4 pot turbo out of the TT lol

It's not the engine out of the TT, it is a Porsche engine, flat four.

Wills2 · 12-10-2015, 06:16 AM

They will sell, and lets be fair the boxster/cayman are two of lowest selling Porsches out there.

ZeroFx · 12-10-2015, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wills2

They will sell, and lets be fair the boxster/cayman are to lowest selling Porsches out there.

The boxster saved porche from bankruptcy.

I bet they are the highest volume sales they have.

ZeroFx · 12-10-2015, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NISFAN

It's not the engine out of the TT, it is a Porsche engine, flat four.

Yes

Sarcasm

NISFAN · 12-10-2015, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroFx

The boxster saved porche from bankruptcy.

I bet they are the highest volume sales they have.

Nope Cayenne is.

Wills2 · 12-10-2015, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroFx

The boxster saved porche from bankruptcy.

I bet they are the highest volume sales they have.

You'd be surprised then....as an example in 2012 Porsche sold 141,000 cars of that total only 9000 were boxsters but nearly 75,000 were cayenne and 25,000 were 911's.

With Macan now selling umpteen thousand as well the boxster and cayman are the least popular in term of sales by a country mile.

Best keep that tenner in your pocket....

Watsey · 12-10-2015, 06:34 AM

As NISFAN says, it's a new boxer 4. Not everything in the VAG-Porsche group is from the same parts bin.

Mind you, Porsche will have to work hard to make it sound nice. The boxer 6 is a key element in the essence of the 911 in particular.

....,,,,..,,.. · 12-10-2015, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wills2

You'd be surprised then....as an example in 2012 Porsche sold 141,000 cars of that total only 9000 were boxsters but nearly 75,000 were cayenne and 25,000 were 911's.

With Macan now selling umpteen thousand as well the boxster and cayman are the least popular in term of sales by a country mile.

Best keep that tenner in your pocket....

Only the panamera sales are lower.

Wills2 · 12-10-2015, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Brigand

Only the panamera sales are lower.

2014 panamera sales were around 16-17k units worldwide, if you add Boxster and cayman together then perhaps but not stand alone.

It also depends on the model cycle in 2011 the Panamera outsold both the boxster/cayman 2 to 1, but the 981 variant in 2012 boosted sales

NISFAN · 12-10-2015, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroFx

Yes

Sarcasm

You'd be closer in saying the engine out of a 2003 Subaru Impreza Sti.

Andrewthefirst · 12-10-2015, 07:37 AM

This is pretty crap for someone who aspires to own a Porsche. By the time ill afford one they'll all be 4cyl, even the 911. This will help the value of the well kept, low mileage 6 cyl cars then

Tengocity · 12-10-2015, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Wills2

You'd be surprised then....as an example in 2012 Porsche sold 141,000 cars of that total only 9000 were boxsters but nearly 75,000 were cayenne and 25,000 were 911's.

With Macan now selling umpteen thousand as well the boxster and cayman are the least popular in term of sales by a country mile.

Best keep that tenner in your pocket....

This just reflects the realities of the global market for sports cars- falling continuously for years now. Super hot hatches, uber aloons and fast estates, and of course the rise of the SUV all having their part to play.

Don't expect a replacement for the Z4 either, though will be interesting to see what comes out of the collaboration with Toyota

Tengocity · 12-10-2015, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrewthefirst

This will help the value of the well kept, low mileage 6 cyl cars then

You may be right and I'm thinking that's something I might try to take advantage of.

JustChris · 12-10-2015, 09:29 AM

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...t-four-engines

Indeed, I wonder what will happen with the price aligned mentioned i.e the softop should be more expensive that the coupe as per 911.

This can go 1 of 2 ways only surely?

1. They keep the Boxster as is and reduce the price of the coupe to below it? LOL yerrr right
2. The keep the coupe as is and the cost of the Boxster rises!!

Surely they wont do a 1/2 way and reduce coupe a little and pitch the boxster above it regardless?

DaveA · 12-10-2015, 10:12 AM

Yee, gadzooks... Whatever next... Maybe they will build an SUV..????

To be honest, they will sell as many of them as they want to build, simple... I cannot for one moment seeing this denting their brand or their image or whatever one single bit...

Some of us are old enough to remember the kerfuffle when they had the damned audacity to water cool the flat 6....

Anyway, here's a picture of a 4-cylinder turbocharged Porsche Hybrid... Three of 'em, in fact...

DaveA · 12-10-2015, 10:29 AM

Joking aside, this has been on the cards for some years now... I first heard "rumours" of a 4 cylinder base model at least 2 or 3 years ago, possibly more like 3 or 4 now (time flies by)... I think they are thinking of an "entry" model that will bring new buyers into the Porsche world...

Personally, I am intrigued to see how they resolve themselves...

Just reading through the article, I am also wondering if this is a move to wedge open more of a gap in the model line up between the 718's and the 911's... We know there's a sort of "cayman big brother" mid-engined car coming, and this might, then, fit nicely in the middle...?

Just my thoughts...

Wills2 · 12-10-2015, 10:34 AM

if Porsche are banging out 4 pots what will we all be driving!

Apl440i or 335d? · 12-10-2015, 10:43 AM

3cyl BMW's are common place now...

ZeroFx · 12-10-2015, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveA

Joking aside, this has been on the cards for some years now... I first heard "rumours" of a 4 cylinder base model at least 2 or 3 years ago, possibly more like 3 or 4 now (time flies by)... I think they are thinking of an "entry" model that will bring new buyers into the Porsche world...

Personally, I am intrigued to see how they resolve themselves...

Just reading through the article, I am also wondering if this is a move to wedge open more of a gap in the model line up between the 718's and the 911's... We know there's a sort of "cayman big brother" mid-engined car coming, and this might, then, fit nicely in the middle...?

Just my thoughts...

you mean now they got caught? anyone believe that their 3.4L NA does that co2? lol

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Andrewthefirst Major 1219 Rep 1,319 Posts Drives: M140i Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	This is pretty crap for someone who aspires to own a Porsche. By the time ill afford one they'll all be 4cyl, even the 911. This will help the value of the well kept, low mileage 6 cyl cars then
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JustChris General 17483 Rep 25,112 Posts Drives: Tesla MYRWD Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...t-four-engines Indeed, I wonder what will happen with the price aligned mentioned i.e the softop should be more expensive that the coupe as per 911. This can go 1 of 2 ways only surely? 1. They keep the Boxster as is and reduce the price of the coupe to below it? LOL yerrr right 2. The keep the coupe as is and the cost of the Boxster rises!! Surely they wont do a 1/2 way and reduce coupe a little and pitch the boxster above it regardless? __________________ My car made front page of Bimmerpost
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DaveA Brigadier General 1868 Rep 3,430 Posts Drives: BMW M135i xDrive Join Date: May 2013 Location: Teesside iTrader: (0)	Yee, gadzooks... Whatever next... Maybe they will build an SUV..???? To be honest, they will sell as many of them as they want to build, simple... I cannot for one moment seeing this denting their brand or their image or whatever one single bit... Some of us are old enough to remember the kerfuffle when they had the damned audacity to water cool the flat 6.... Anyway, here's a picture of a 4-cylinder turbocharged Porsche Hybrid... Three of 'em, in fact... __________________ CAR HISTORY - Golf GTI 245 - F30 340i M Sport - F30 330d M Sport MPPK - F30 320d Sport - 997 Gen2 GT3 - 987 Cayman S - 986 Boxster S - Ibiza Cupra - Polo 16v - E30 M3 (Official GB import) - Integra 16v - Mk2 Polo S - Mk1 Golf C Last edited by DaveA; 12-10-2015 at 10:21 AM..
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DaveA Brigadier General 1868 Rep 3,430 Posts Drives: BMW M135i xDrive Join Date: May 2013 Location: Teesside iTrader: (0)	Joking aside, this has been on the cards for some years now... I first heard "rumours" of a 4 cylinder base model at least 2 or 3 years ago, possibly more like 3 or 4 now (time flies by)... I think they are thinking of an "entry" model that will bring new buyers into the Porsche world... Personally, I am intrigued to see how they resolve themselves... Just reading through the article, I am also wondering if this is a move to wedge open more of a gap in the model line up between the 718's and the 911's... We know there's a sort of "cayman big brother" mid-engined car coming, and this might, then, fit nicely in the middle...? Just my thoughts... __________________ CAR HISTORY - Golf GTI 245 - F30 340i M Sport - F30 330d M Sport MPPK - F30 320d Sport - 997 Gen2 GT3 - 987 Cayman S - 986 Boxster S - Ibiza Cupra - Polo 16v - E30 M3 (Official GB import) - Integra 16v - Mk2 Polo S - Mk1 Golf C
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