A few things BMW need to fix on the M2 before production

Hazey82 · 10-16-2015, 03:26 PM

I just wanted to put these things down. I feel very strongly about it and just hope we can get the message across. It won't be about CF roofs, S engines, power domes etc but simply realistic items that should not be excluded.

1. M Mirrors - it will just finish it off. There is no excuse. Every M car has had them. End of discussion. Rubbish about it being a cost thing. BMW can wear it!

2. Unique M seats as an option- M2 is the drivers car. 2er seats look lame. Many examples of cheaper cars have better unique seats over their base series. At least make them an option like the competition.

3. M button on steering wheel

Please support the cause lol

twboy1999 · 10-16-2015, 03:30 PM

i dun think bmw give a fuck
don't waste ur time

chmura · 10-16-2015, 03:32 PM

I agree on both. My neighbor bought a brand new Ford Fiesta ST and it came with Recaros from the factory. Of course it was a $2k option. Heck I would pay $3k for this option on the M2.

But seats and mirrors you can change on your own. So it's really not a huge deal for me anymore.

PrematureApex · 10-16-2015, 03:32 PM

Just what we needed! Another new thread about the same exact shit being talked about in 12 other threads.

Hazey82 · 10-16-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PrematureApex

Just what we needed! Another new thread about the same exact shit being talked about in 12 other threads.

Move along

bizzyqu · 10-16-2015, 03:34 PM

I don't mind these corners being cut to save me a few bucks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

PrematureApex · 10-16-2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hazey82

Move along

What ever will you do without an M button on the steering wheel!? Or pedestrian mirrors!

Make new threads about it, that's what!

Hazey82 · 10-16-2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by twboy1999

i dun think bmw give a fuck
don't waste ur time

This is unfortunately very true. They just don't give a shit anymore and it's sad

PrematureApex · 10-16-2015, 03:38 PM

Look at it compared to the 1M. BMW saved on the carry over motor, but splurged on the damn mirrors.

With the M2, they actually do significant work on the engine, saving on things like the useless mirrors, and people bitch.

Lopping 8" off the back of an M4 doesn't save you $10k people.

PrematureApex · 10-16-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hazey82

This is unfortunately very true. They just don't give a shit anymore and it's sad

Is this a serious post? They decided to put the money into things that actually matter, and bring you a very cost-competitive car.

Point is, why do you care so much about mirrors? Do they affect literally anything about the car when you're in the driver's seat?

OrangeCrush · 10-16-2015, 03:56 PM

I think the standard mirrors look better than the M3/4 mirrors. I don't really understand the little wing thing...looks goofy IMO.

Would have liked better seats...although NOT like the ones in the M3/4 but more like the seats you can get in the Mercedes as an option. There is a thread around here with a pic of the MB seats.

SCOTT26 · 10-16-2015, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazey82

I just wanted to put these things down. I feel very strongly about it and just hope we can get the message across. It won't be about CF roofs, S engines, power domes etc but simply realistic items that should not be excluded.

1. M Mirrors - it will just finish it off. There is no excuse. Every M car has had them. End of discussion. Rubbish about it being a cost thing. BMW can wear it!

2. Unique M seats as an option- M2 is the drivers car. 2er seats look lame. Many examples of cheaper cars have better unique seats over their base series. At least make them an option like the competition.

3. M button on steering wheel

Please support the cause lol

1. Is not a cost thing, they don't fit on the 2er. The side mount is the problem,to fix it adds more production cost.

2. The regular seats are supportive enough if you want to be truly unique- M Performance will cater for your needs.

3. M2 is the "Basic" M car so it does not take the high tech luxury route so it is channelling the entry Ms from the 2002 to the 1er M Coupe. It is not complex as progress as limited. Meaning it remains as Raw as it looks.
It knows its audience and it knows its audience will be even more thrilled that the car is not overladen with gimmicks and complexity.

OrangeCrush · 10-16-2015, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

1. Is not a cost thing, they don't fit on the 2er. The side mount is the problem,to fix it adds more production cost.

2. The regular seats are supportive enough if you want to be truly unique- M Performance will cater for your needs.

3. M2 is the "Basic" M car so it does not take the high tech luxury route so it is channelling the entry Ms from the 2002 to the 1er M Coupe. It is not complex as progress as limited. Meaning it remains as Raw as it looks.
It knows its audience and it knows its audience will be even more thrilled that the car is not overladen with gimmicks and complexity.

Not that I care that the M2 doesn't have an M button but how was the 1M able to have it? I know all it did was change throttle response in the 1M so does the M2 have the ability to change throttle response...M button or not?

Colinv6 · 10-16-2015, 04:03 PM

Is that a hint from Scott that M performance will be re-launching a new seat?

chmura · 10-16-2015, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Colinv6

Is that a hint from Scott that M performance will be re-launching a new seat?

If so group buy!

Kief · 10-16-2015, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazey82

I just wanted to put these things down. I feel very strongly about it and just hope we can get the message across. It won't be about CF roofs, S engines, power domes etc but simply realistic items that should not be excluded.

1. M Mirrors - it will just finish it off. There is no excuse. Every M car has had them. End of discussion. Rubbish about it being a cost thing. BMW can wear it!

2. Unique M seats as an option- M2 is the drivers car. 2er seats look lame. Many examples of cheaper cars have better unique seats over their base series. At least make them an option like the competition.

3. M button on steering wheel

Please support the cause lol

1. Is not a cost thing, they don't fit on the 2er. The side mount is the problem,to fix it adds more production cost.

2. The regular seats are supportive enough if you want to be truly unique- M Performance will cater for your needs.

3. M2 is the "Basic" M car so it does not take the high tech luxury route so it is channelling the entry Ms from the 2002 to the 1er M Coupe. It is not complex as progress as limited. Meaning it remains as Raw as it looks.
It knows its audience and it knows its audience will be even more thrilled that the car is not overladen with gimmicks and complexity.

Finally...this should end "m-mirror gate!"

However I do like my M1/2 buttons in my M4 as it's much easier to manipulate the various settings. Plus if my wife's in the car she can't tell I'm getting ready to play with someone.

Gibson6594 · 10-16-2015, 04:44 PM

Stupid question. How does the torque overboost work?

Alpine* · 10-16-2015, 04:45 PM

Hazey, I give you kudos for trying mate but this tune is getting a little monotonous. Perhaps that M3/4 song is playing now and it's time to make a call.

jzmundy · 10-16-2015, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

1. Is not a cost thing, they don't fit on the 2er. The side mount is the problem,to fix it adds more production cost.

2. The regular seats are supportive enough if you want to be truly unique- M Performance will cater for your needs.

3. M2 is the "Basic" M car so it does not take the high tech luxury route so it is channelling the entry Ms from the 2002 to the 1er M Coupe. It is not complex as progress as limited. Meaning it remains as Raw as it looks.
It knows its audience and it knows its audience will be even more thrilled that the car is not overladen with gimmicks and complexity.

THIS THIS THIS

Comparison: http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showt...7#post18732717

mac128ic · 10-16-2015, 05:07 PM

Garage door opener? I don't see it in the mirror. I fuss everyone who buys might have a garage to store the car.

jstnstr · 10-16-2015, 05:11 PM

Hey at least it comes with leather standard, unlike the M3/4

Seriously though, can we add optional adaptive suspension to the list? I like my cars like I like my girls (apparently) bipolar.

stuckinoc · 10-16-2015, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hazey82

1. M Mirrors - it will just finish it off. There is no excuse. Every M car has had them. End of discussion. Rubbish about it being a cost thing. BMW can wear it!

2. Unique M seats as an option- M2 is the drivers car. 2er seats look lame. Many examples of cheaper cars have better unique seats over their base series. At least make them an option like the competition.

3. M button on steering wheel

Please support the cause lol

Yup...total let down. It could have been such a lay up for the design team, don't do anything and just relaunch the 1M.

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Hazey82 Lieutenant 277 Rep 579 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Comp Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oz iTrader: (0)	I just wanted to put these things down. I feel very strongly about it and just hope we can get the message across. It won't be about CF roofs, S engines, power domes etc but simply realistic items that should not be excluded. 1. M Mirrors - it will just finish it off. There is no excuse. Every M car has had them. End of discussion. Rubbish about it being a cost thing. BMW can wear it! 2. Unique M seats as an option- M2 is the drivers car. 2er seats look lame. Many examples of cheaper cars have better unique seats over their base series. At least make them an option like the competition. 3. M button on steering wheel Please support the cause lol
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twboy1999 Captain 291 Rep 900 Posts Drives: 1994 honda accord Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: toronto iTrader: (3)	i dun think bmw give a fuck don't waste ur time __________________ 2019 M2 HS 10000km and counting
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chmura Colonel 1558 Rep 2,505 Posts Drives: 2019 M2 Competition Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Orange County, California iTrader: (1)	I agree on both. My neighbor bought a brand new Ford Fiesta ST and it came with Recaros from the factory. Of course it was a $2k option. Heck I would pay $3k for this option on the M2. But seats and mirrors you can change on your own. So it's really not a huge deal for me anymore.
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PrematureApex Colonel 840 Rep 2,402 Posts Drives: N55 X1, N54 135, s54 m3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	Look at it compared to the 1M. BMW saved on the carry over motor, but splurged on the damn mirrors. With the M2, they actually do significant work on the engine, saving on things like the useless mirrors, and people bitch. Lopping 8" off the back of an M4 doesn't save you $10k people. __________________ '02 S54 M3 (500/500 GC/Koni) '08 N54 135 (JB4, DCI, BMW PS/Bilstein B6s, H&R M3 FSB, Strongflex FCABs) '14 N55 X1 (JB4, BMS DP, BMS Intake, Alpina TCU reflash, H&R Sports, Bilstein B6s, E93 M3 RSB, Strongflex FCABs, baby seat) '08 N54 535xi touring (Bilstein B6s, Downpipes, MHD tune, baby seat) Last edited by PrematureApex; 10-16-2015 at 03:45 PM..
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