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      10-15-2015, 10:21 AM   #1
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Speculated US Options list/groups and pricing?

What do y'all think the Options Group/List pricing will be for the U.S.?

DCT/6mt - $3000
Power Seats - $500
Comfort Access - $375
Nav - $1000 or in a package
Moonroof - $1000 or NC
Ambient lighting upgrade - $300
HK Upgrade - $875
Cold Weather Package - $700
Drivers' nannies package - $1000
Rear Camera - $500

I've looked at the Swedish and German options list and extrapolated what might be available here. The pricing is a total guesstimate.

What do you guys think?
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I would guess power seats are standard in the US.

The greedy part of myself wants HK to be standard, as that's likely the only option I am going to take.
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Power seats and ambient lighting will definitely be standard.
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Fully loaded under $59k? Possible?
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I would guess power seats are standard in the US.

The greedy part of myself wants HK to be standard, as that's likely the only option I am going to take.
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Power seats and ambient lighting will definitely be standard.
If Power seats are standard then it's DEFINITELY off my list. Not enough headroom. The 1M came with standard seats! Power memory seats, power fold mirrors, and a couple of other items all came in a Premium package. wow i hope this is the same.

The seat height was noticeably higher in the 1M with power seats. The 1M did NOT have a sunroof.

I test drove a 228 and posted previously that those interested in tracking an M2 should probably make sure to get either one of the two.. power seats or a sunroof,,, but definitely not both. Even if no sunroof... the vehicle height is the same... (m2 is a hair lower than 1M ) and the seats look to bone nearly the same.. so trackmeisters should strongly consider no power seats.


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Fully loaded under $59k? Possible?
probably!

1M went from 48K to 55K. E9x M3 sedan began at 56K and E9x M3 coupe began at 59K

So.. with the F80 M3 at 62K and F80 M4 at 64.5K respectively... i would bet that you are very close to spot on and if the base price is indeed 51K for then M2 then a manual maxes out at 58K and DCT at 61K.

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      10-16-2015, 01:36 AM   #8
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Nav Cold Weather and Moon Roof is all I want. Might go for the HK not sure.
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Didn't I see something where they wanted to charge you to have the rear seat fold down?
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      10-21-2015, 12:20 PM   #10
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What do y'all think the Options Group/List pricing will be for the U.S.?

DCT/6mt - $3000
Power Seats - $500
Comfort Access - $375
Nav - $1000 or in a package
Moonroof - $1000 or NC
Ambient lighting upgrade - $300
HK Upgrade - $875
Cold Weather Package - $700
Drivers' nannies package - $1000
Rear Camera - $500

I've looked at the Swedish and German options list and extrapolated what might be available here. The pricing is a total guesstimate.

What do you guys think?
6MT, Mineral Grey, Bluetooth, NO moonroof for sure... and more than likely some M Performance options if they're offered

Still considering a couple of creature comforts - totally depends on how they are offered/packaged:
  • Nav - if I'm stuck with the screen anyway, I might as well make it useful. It would be nice if it were either standard, or a stand-alone option, as I'm really not interested in most of the other stuff in the Tech package - except for...
  • BMW Apps (if they are required to make use of the GoPro integration that the M2 will have)
  • Comfort Access
  • PDC/Rear Camera
  • Heated Seats (only if I'm stuck with power seats anyway)

I'd like to keep the weight down as much as reasonably possible, but if PDC/rear camera and comfort access don't add much of any appreciable weight, they are pretty tempting

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If Power seats are standard then it's DEFINITELY off my list. Not enough headroom. The 1M came with standard seats! Power memory seats, power fold mirrors, and a couple of other items all came in a Premium package. wow i hope this is the same.
Fingers crossed for an option for manual seats... I'll miss the seat heaters though!
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      10-22-2015, 07:24 AM   #11
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^ My 1M had manual seats and heated seats so no worries there.
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      10-25-2015, 03:55 AM   #12
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I think it will be interesting to see what options they include as base for the US market, the only options I really want are DCT, HK sound and power seats (wife is 4'11 and I am 6' so power seat is essential for her). We have seen the M4 get additional base equipment like comfort access and HK sound so we will see.
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      10-25-2015, 09:23 AM   #13
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I think all I would need is:
moonroof
hk
side/top cameras. I majored in parallel parking at OU, but a little insurance helps
rearview camera
split/fold rear seats
heated seats/wheel

wants:
nav/multi-media. only want if it makes a diff storing/playing mp3.
bt connectivity for Pandora etc
ambient lighting upgrade

dont care:
comfort access
app gimmicks
active cruise
Lane departure warning

anyone else?
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      10-25-2015, 03:36 PM   #14
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Major thing will be transmission. I love the DCT in my E92 "is" and felt it was perfect for the F80, but I am swinging toward manual if I go F87 (that or F80).

That said, LBB is pretty much the color I am shooting for. I have white now and I don't think the MG or SB do the car's lines justice:

6MT (DCT if the price works, but not necessary for the F87)
Seat heaters
Bluetooth

Performance add-ons:
Diffuser
Boot lip
Alcantara wheel

Don't want anything on there unless it adds to the driving experience of the car. I might splurge for Nav since the stupid screen is there. I will miss the zero screen dashboard of my 335is...

I do REALLY wish they had an option for 18 inch wheels. Have 19s on my current car and never doing that again, especially with DC roads...
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Here is my guess and keeping with the MSRP from my dream couple weeks back.

MSRP 51,895

Destination & Handling - $995
Nav - Standard
Power Seats - Standard
Comfort Access - Standard
Ambient Lighting - Standard
MT - $0
Moon-roof delete - $0
Driver Assistance Package Plus - $1650
DCT - $2,900
HK - $875
Enhanced USB and Bluetooth plus Smartphone Integration - $350
Parking Assistant - $500
Heated Steering Wheel - $300

MSRP with all options added + D&H - $59,465

Edit: Heated seats will prob also be standard. So heated Steering wheel - $300
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      10-26-2015, 01:35 AM   #16
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I'm an engineer so I'm afraid dreams just don't do it for me. I think it would be a bit more analytical to look at MSRP for currently available models in Germany and the UK versus the same US model and use the same scalar to predict US M2 pricing.

An M3 is $84,481 with VAT in the UK. In the US MSRP is $62,300. So a US M3 is .74 the MSRP of one in the UK. In the UK, an M2 with VAT will be $65,533. If that same ratio applies to the M2, then the MSRP will be $48,327.

Haven't looked at other models or other countries and this sort of analysis calls for that. However, I think we have good reasons to be optimistic about the price.
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I'm an engineer so I'm afraid dreams just don't do it for me. I think it would be a bit more analytical to look at MSRP for currently available models in Germany and the UK versus the same US model and use the same scalar to predict US M2 pricing.

An M3 is $84,481 with VAT in the UK. In the US MSRP is $62,300. So a US M3 is .74 the MSRP of one in the UK. In the UK, an M2 with VAT will be $65,533. If that same ratio applies to the M2, then the MSRP will be $48,327.

Haven't looked at other models or other countries and this sort of analysis calls for that. However, I think we have good reasons to be optimistic about the price.
Even though I agree with you on the lack of accuracy of dreams your calculation doesn't work either. Why? Because an M235i with only a limited slip optioned currently cost $48,385 including destination. There is no way the M2 will cost $48,327.
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A few MSRP based numbers:
US M3 vs Swiss M3: .75
US M4 vs UK M4: .75
UK M2 vs UK M4: .75
UK 340i vs UK M4: .67
UK M235 vs UK M2: .82
US 340i vs US M4: .725

- Pick the one that makes the most sense to you and you can extrapolate from known UK M2 and US model prices.

- Would not consider that M235 limited slip in the equation. Not a factory option.
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Kind of strange that no price or anything is available for the biggest market yet when pretty much the rest of the world can order already.

Many wise men at BMW HQ are probably calculating on the perfect starting price.
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A few MSRP based numbers:
US M3 vs Swiss M3: .75
US M4 vs UK M4: .75
UK M2 vs UK M4: .75
UK 340i vs UK M4: .67
UK M235 vs UK M2: .82
US 340i vs US M4: .725

- Pick the one that makes the most sense to you and you can extrapolate from known UK M2 and US model prices.

- Would not consider that M235 limited slip in the equation. Not a factory option.
It is a factory option on bmwusa.com. What I'm trying to point out to you is your calculation method won't work because this is not how prices are made in the US.

Try again.
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It is a factory option on bmwusa.com. What I'm trying to point out to you is your calculation method won't work because this is not how prices are made in the US.

Try again.
Unless it changed for 2015, it's not a factory option. It's a port installed option. Different development, logistics, and installation costs. If it were factory do you think it would cost $3250?

As for methods, I will have to choose calculation over dreams.

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Kind of strange that no price or anything is available for the biggest market yet when pretty much the rest of the world can order already.

Many wise men at BMW HQ are probably calculating on the perfect starting price.
Well.. that or the greedy men at BMW HQ.

Given what I've seen in other markets I think the closest we can get right now is the relative cost of an M235 to an M2. About a .82 difference. This would give us a US MSRP of $53,800. I wish we would see the US M2 being as good of a deal as what we get on M3's versus other markets (.75) but just don't think so.
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