[Averdi]

I just installed VRSF DCI and I can only hear it when I have the music off and windows down, anyone else?

[mythek]

Originally Posted by Averdi

I just installed VRSF DCI and I can only hear it when I have the music off and windows down, anyone else?

i have mr. 5 intake so i dont see any noticeable difference vs. stock.

in before andreyt chime in to lecture you about how DCI doesn't make sound. lol

[este]

Originally Posted by Averdi

I just installed VRSF DCI and I can only hear it when I have the music off and windows down, anyone else?

Same here if you take off your cowl though they'll be 100x louder as well as your turbos

[Averdi]

Originally Posted by este

Same here if you take off your cowl though they'll be 100x louder as well as your turbos

How do I do that??

[este]

Originally Posted by Averdi

How do I do that??

Buy these http://www.burgertuning.com/cowl_filter_covers_bmw_135_335.html.

There's instructions on there on what do to. Justt got mine and love them. More sound and seems to keep the engine a little cooler.

[Asian Sensatian]

Originally Posted by Averdi

I just installed VRSF DCI and I can only hear it when I have the music off and windows down, anyone else?

There was a very noticeable difference when I installed my bms dci. Night and day. However I also removed my cowl and did the bms cowl filters so maybe that adds to it.

[Averdi]

Originally Posted by este

Buy these http://www.burgertuning.com/cowl_fil...w_135_335.html.

There's instructions on there on what do to. Justt got mine and love them. More sound and seems to keep the engine a little cooler.

how much more sound? if its not that big of an increase i dont even want to waste my money

[este]

Originally Posted by Averdi

how much more sound? if its not that big of an increase i dont even want to waste my money

I thinks its quite a big difference. The turbo spool sound awesome I could never hear it before. Search the forum for threads about it. I bought mine used off someone here for $45 so that's another option.

[Averdi]

Originally Posted by este

I thinks its quite a big difference. The turbo spool sound awesome I could never hear it before. Search the forum for threads about it. I bought mine used off someone here for $45 so that's another option.

gotcha i might have to get this. will it sound the same if i try removing my cowl to see if theres a difference you think?

[este]

Originally Posted by Averdi

gotcha i might have to get this. will it sound the same if i try removing my cowl to see if theres a difference you think?

Yea you can remove it and see how it sounds just put it back after you test it since you don't have the filters which covers the holes left by removing the cowl. Test it when it's not raining.

[Asian Sensatian]

Originally Posted by Averdi

gotcha i might have to get this. will it sound the same if i try removing my cowl to see if theres a difference you think?

Just remove see if you like and if you do then buy the filters. Otherwise put the cowl back on. It made a huge difference for me.

[Averdi]

Originally Posted by Asian Sensatian

Just remove see if you like and if you do then buy the filters. Otherwise put the cowl back on. It made a huge difference for me.

Originally Posted by este

Yea you can remove it and see how it sounds just put it back after you test it since you don't have the filters which covers the holes left by removing the cowl. Test it when it's not raining.

This is what I've read so far...

Costs of removing engine cowl:
Possible engine smells in the cabin,
Possible failure of AC
Possible damage to engine components in rain, ice, etc
Possible engine fire (dry leaves getting near turbos)
Possible deleterious aerodynamics at speed
Windows fog up almost instantly if you turn the fan on, but not the A/C

Benefits of removing engine cowl:
Hear the engine.
Easier to do work under the hood.
Cooler under-hood temps

[este]

Originally Posted by Averdi

This is what I've read so far...

Costs of removing engine cowl:
Possible engine smells in the cabin,
Possible failure of AC
Possible damage to engine components in rain, ice, etc
Possible engine fire (dry leaves getting near turbos)
Possible deleterious aerodynamics at speed
Windows fog up almost instantly if you turn the fan on, but not the A/C

Benefits of removing engine cowl:
Hear the engine.
Easier to do work under the hood.
Cooler under-hood temps

The guy who made them ran with the cowl completely off with no filters for 3-5 years with no problems. I don't have any engine smell and everything that is susceptible to water in your engine is watertight. I live in Florida and it's rained almost everyday for the past 2 weeks not light rain either and no problems. The engine/hood is setup to specifically prevent any type of water damage with drains, raised openings,and watertight ecu, etc. in the the end it's up to you

[Averdi]

Originally Posted by este

The guy who made them ran with the cowl completely off with no filters for 3-5 years with no problems. I don't have any engine smell and everything that is susceptible to water in your engine is watertight. I live in Florida and it's rained almost everyday for the past 2 weeks not light rain either and no problems. The engine/hood is setup to specifically prevent any type of water damage with drains, raised openings,and watertight ecu, etc. in the the end it's up to you

hmmm its tough, people scare me but i want that sound!!

[Asian Sensatian]

Looks like you did your research. I don't drive my car in the rain or snow anyway so it was a no brainer for me. I have a beater for that.

[Parth317]

I have the BMS dci and the sound is pretty noticeable. I did realize that it was a lot quieter when my JB4 was in map 0 (stock boost).

[kong24680]

Originally Posted by Averdi

This is what I've read so far...

Costs of removing engine cowl:
Possible engine smells in the cabin,
Possible failure of AC
Possible damage to engine components in rain, ice, etc
Possible engine fire (dry leaves getting near turbos)
Possible deleterious aerodynamics at speed
Windows fog up almost instantly if you turn the fan on, but not the A/C

Benefits of removing engine cowl:
Hear the engine.
Easier to do work under the hood.
Cooler under-hood temps

Ran the cowls for a year and experienced none of those problems.

[335speed]

I ran without a cowl and no filters for a long time as well, with 0 issues. Maybe a bit of smell every once in a while but i had an exhaust leak at the time so idk if it really counts. Only real thing that made sense to me is your a/c has to work harder cause it uses the hot air leaving your engine but I had 0 problems.

[Averdi]

Originally Posted by Parth317

I have the BMS dci and the sound is pretty noticeable. I did realize that it was a lot quieter when my JB4 was in map 0 (stock boost).

maybe thats why, I'm at stock boost for now

Originally Posted by kong24680

Ran the cowls for a year and experienced none of those problems.

it seem like most people dont but i live in jersey where it does tend to rain and not sure if its even worth the risk. might just play it safe.

Originally Posted by 335speed

I ran without a cowl and no filters for a long time as well, with 0 issues. Maybe a bit of smell every once in a while but i had an exhaust leak at the time so idk if it really counts. Only real thing that made sense to me is your a/c has to work harder cause it uses the hot air leaving your engine but I had 0 problems.

yeah i might just keep it on, i tend to worry about things.

[HouseN54]

I live in buffalo and took my cowl off and have no filters, ZERO problems.

[Parth317]

Originally Posted by Averdi

maybe thats why, I'm at stock boost for now

it seem like most people dont but i live in jersey where it does tend to rain and not sure if its even worth the risk. might just play it safe.

yeah i might just keep it on, i tend to worry about things.

Keep your cowl on lol. You'll notice a sound difference when you run higher boost. I might be selling my JB4 in the Spring.

[Tiago@VRSF]

I've seen too many problems related to those cowl filters to go with anything else. One of our local test cars had a never ending fogging issue due to moisture getting into the ventilation system which will eventually lead to mold and other things nobody should be inhaling.