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      09-10-2014, 10:02 PM   #1
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Exclamation Help? buy new 2013 E92 M3 left over or new 2015 M4?

Hello forum,
so I have this tough choice
and I will be posting on both E92 forum and here. I understand its a tough question since people who have either one of the cars maybe biased.

But please help !!!!

So I ordered a manual M4 a few months ago that arrives next week.
But last week, I discovered one of my dealers is selling a brand new left-over 2013 M3 in a spartan configuration.
The choice is really tough. Let me say I used to have 2011 M3 and was the best 'conventional' car I ever owned.
I have also tested on the road the new M4 numerous times and quite extensively...well the last 3 months spent some time visiting different dealers.

Overall the perceptual differences when driving are huge,
but not necessarily worse than before.
As you can imagine, in particular differences on the steering and throttle response.

What would you guys do? Should I back off on the M4 and grab that beautiful masterpiece? or stick with the latest BMW's technological M-marvel?

It seems for both cars I will have to pay MSRP ...the price difference is close to identical, and I absolutely don't care about depreciation.
Just a nice practical ride to keep for a longggg time.
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Uh, pick the one you like more?

Not exaxtly sure what you are looking for by posting this
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To me its a no brainer, M4. The newer car is better in almost every way. There isnt much other than nostalgia to keep you in the older one, especially for the price you pay for it. If the question was a slightly used E92 for 15k less than the new one I'd say you have a debate that only you can answer based on what matters to YOU. But for the same price I'd go new all day long.

In the end, YOU will be the one driving it and none of what gets written here will change how you feel about whichever one you end up with.
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Uh, pick the one you like more?

Not exaxtly sure what you are looking for by posting this
Agree with Kenny. This seems more like a post to cause a rumble than to look for information.

What you choose is up to you. If you are truly giving consideration to the 2013, then the new one is not for you. It is your choice and no one in this forum can make that decision for you.
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Uh, pick the one you like more?

>>Not exaxtly sure what you are looking for by posting this
Hello,
I am looking for the most popular advise?
I am torn having to choose between the two. I value public opinion and very interested to hear what people think between the two cars especially if they had to choose the way I have to do now.
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In the end, YOU will be the one driving it and none of what gets written here will change how you feel about whichever one you end up with.
Believe it or not, forums have influenced my decisions and the way I see cars during the years...I do have a personal opinion but collective intelligence is always appreciated can potentially change the way I see a car.
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Agree with Kenny. This seems more like a post to cause a rumble than to look for information.

What you choose is up to you. If you are truly giving consideration to the 2013, then the new one is not for you. It is your choice and no one in this forum can make that decision for you.
Looking for advise not criticism I don't have much time can you offer your valuable opinion? if not thank you anyway

Let me say upfront, I do value both cars for different reasons.
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Agree with Kenny. This seems more like a post to cause a rumble than to look for information.

What you choose is up to you. If you are truly giving consideration to the 2013, then the new one is not for you. It is your choice and no one in this forum can make that decision for you.
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Looking for advise not criticism I don't have much time can you offer your valuable opinion? if not thank you anyway

Let me say upfront, I do value both cars for different reasons.
I am sorry to waste your time. I gave you my opinion. Guess it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
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When I read your post, I was waiting for you to say the e92 was discounted heavily...like 15-20k or something. Even if it were discounted that much, I would probably still take the m4.

I've owned both (well not the m4, but the f80), and there is no comparison.
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If you didn't already have the luck of owning the E9X M3 I would easily say grab it. But since you have when it was modern I'd recommend getting the M4. It's IMO more of a mixed bag of very good and not so good but it's today's car and BMW's best car currently on sale while the E9X is flawless but it is yesterday's car.
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If you didn't already have the luck of owning the E9X M3 I would easily say grab it. But since you have when it was modern I'd recommend getting the M4. It's more of a mixed bag but it's today's car and BMW's best car currently on sale while the E9X is yesterday's.
Solstice! how is it going man
I am entirely shocked with your words but THANK YOU! very valuable indeed.
I would appreciate if someone like you could explain a little more in depth how did you change schools? What does someone like yourself, like in the M4 more than the M3 ? for example the torque?.
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I am sorry to waste your time. I gave you my opinion. Guess it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
I think you are saying I am an E92 person...and I would say I am but only 50% and hence the thread...
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Since your even considering the old car, at MSRP no less (!?!?), you should buy that one.
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MSRP for a 2 year old car (model year)? GMAFB.

I have owned both... M4 all the way.
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I agree with some of the previous posts. If the e92 was discounted heavily that would be a real tough decision, but if they are close in price as you say, then it would be a no brainer to go for the M4.

I'll add that some of the comments about the e92 being "yesterday's car," while true, should not devalue the greatness of that car in any way. Just because something new comes out doesn't make its predecessor any less of a car.
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Since your even considering the old car, at MSRP no less (!?!?), you should buy that one.
Why should a car that is equally expensive to make and has a more expensive engine cost less?
En2 is a car that is 95% made in germany vs the new M4 is 65% made in germany - rest in Romania and Slovakia and who knows where else.. So in terms of value we should be at par here...because on the other hand, the M4 has tons of modern technology and nice surprises on it..
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I consider myself unbiased to a certain extent as I have never owned an E9X M3, although I have had quite a bit of driving time in one. I really enjoyed the E9X overall, but as my DD is an E39 M5 it just didn't have the torque i was looking for in a DD. So...if you don't care about torque so much and value the response of a beautiful NA engine, grab the E9X. If you want torque and the latest tech, F8X all the way.

For me personally it would not be much of a decision...the S54 in my M coupe satisfies the high-revving, relatively low torque, old-school M car experience and I'm keeping the M5, so I want to experience the new M turbo. This was solidified by a lot of seat time in a 1 M - love that car (might even wait for the M2...).

All that said, NO WAY would I pay MSRP for an E9X right now - that dealer is going to have a hard time selling the car. I'd expect a substantial discount, or I would buy a lightly used MY 2011/2012 car...

Have fun with your decision!
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I'll add that some of the comments about the e92 being "yesterday's car," while true, should not devalue the greatness of that car in any way. Just because something new comes out doesn't make its predecessor any less of a car.
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Why should a car that is equally expensive to make and has a more expensive engine cost less?
En2 is a car that is 95% made in germany vs the new M4 is 65% made in germany - rest in Romania and Slovakia and who knows where else..
Your mind is made up. Why waste people's time by asking for help.
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Why should a car that is equally expensive to make and has a more expensive engine cost less?
En2 is a car that is 95% made in germany vs the new M4 is 65% made in germany - rest in Romania and Slovakia and who knows where else.. So in terms of value we should be at par here...because on the other hand, the M4 has tons of modern technology and nice surprises on it..
Your right, the E92 is the better "value" proposition for you at MSRP (lol), which your dealer happily agrees with and fed you that line of BS.

Like I said, you should buy the E92, it's why your here right? Why else come here which such a wack proposition.

Did it not occur to you that your "last new E92 M3 in the universe!" will be just another two year old used mass produced 3 series the moment you sign the papers and drive it home or were you going to bubble wrap that baby as an investment since it's about value?
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Why would you value people's opinion when you'll be the one driving the car? Go for another back to back extensive test drive and you should walk away liking one more than the other...
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Why would you value people's opinion when you'll be the one driving the car? Go for another back to back extensive test drive and you should walk away liking one more than the other...

People's opinion is valuable, look at for example, how the previous replies are pointing on the fact that the asking price of this dealer is quite insane..
This is something I couldn't understand before I started the thread because I just looked at them as two 'machines' that need to be compared.

But I totally ignored the market..! Good thing I was reminded of that!

If I do the back to back drive , I could leave with the E92 because of the way it feels on conventional US roads.

but I could also leave with the M4 because of the way it feels 'being' into it and driving it overall. Its kind of a pleasant alienated feeling.
I think the engine/exhaust sound is not a 'cow' at all --like people saw on you tube but in my view its quite a mesmerizing futuristic /'robotic' sound.. not sure what to make out of it but it can't be ignored for sure.
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