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      05-12-2018, 01:06 PM   #23
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I should have done a poll, almost seems like a 50/50 split on opinions.

Just some additional info. The targa top on the vette is really cool. 7 speed is kind of a bummer, would rather have a 6 speed manual. I will truly only use this car for back roads on the weekends, occasional errands and a road trip here and there.

I was only considering the GT350 for a number of months, but once I realized I could get a large discount on a new Grand Sport I started doing some research. The only criticism I have for the GT350 (without driving it of course) is its size and weight.
well, i think the 350 still has a back seat (i know the 350r doesn't). 350 also has a bigger trunk. i know a guy who got into a 350r from a porsche 964 and one of his impressions was that it felt huge, but that may be subjective.
i sat in a vette a few months back and it wasn't super ergonomical for me, i don't like high window lines, and the front window has a very long slope and seemed really far away (i'm 6'03").
if you can't drive a 350 (i doubt a dealer will let you, they treat them like they are gold), at least sit in one and see if it speaks to you.
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My wife and I were in Florida on holiday a while back and we had a Mustang convertible rental, nothing special but for an American car I thought the interior was so much better than they used to be (I haven't had an american car for a few years). While we were out a GT350 passed us on A1A, OMFG what a sound that engine makes.....I swear I was on my computer later that day researching them....a bit more than I could afford and my wife would kill me especially since she talked me into buying my 993 last fall.....I seriously need to win the lottery.
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Do a search on GT350 here; there are at least a couple of threads. Also check the GT350 Forum at Mustang6.com (https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=70).

I'm not going to post all the details again, but here's a hint: The quality is pitiful - and hasn't changed since 2015. I refused delivery on the first 2016 GT 350, because the paint was flaking off and more than half the car needed to be repainted by the dealer. On the replacement 2016, paint came off the passenger door the first time I washed it - plus I had to park it for 6 months due to Ford's inability to get a simple part to satisfy a recall. I sold the car the day after I got it fixed and ordered an M2.

My last two Corvettes were trouble-free - neither one saw the dealer - except for one recall on rear-end adjustment (no problem found) and regular maintenance - in more than 8 years of ownership; I'm thinking about buying a 2019 now.

BTW, I suggest you only listen to former owners of these cars here. There are a lot of "never-owned-ones" offering opinions here.

Good luck!
Paint chipping off? This reminds me of my 2018 M4 Convertible Competition which I just sold as I was sick and tired of fixing the paint. After a month the paint from the door handle got a line chipped off, after 6 months, underneath the bonnet from the right hand side corner, there was a black line, when I took it to the dealer, they said it needs painting as the paint chipped off.

Then after 7 months of ownership, I realized that on the front right splitter, the paint is not even as if it was resprayed multiple times causing an uneven layer and that was it, I got sick of the car and sold it.

Now that you say this about Mustangs, never buying a Mustang again. Especially considering the fact that they lose 50% of their value here in Dubai in the first year due to how many used Mustangs that were totalled and repaired available on the market bringing the overall price down.
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Stop trying to con him into buying a car from Garbage Motors. Wouldn't spend another dime of hard earned money on that crap again.

OP, GT350 all the way - the engine alone is worth more than any vette or camaro, subjectively speaking. In General when buying American cars get a ford or mopar - avoid GM like the plague.
Ford is good for trucks and European designed cars.

The C7 GS is a beast. Kills KILLS on the track.
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C7 no question. I'll be new toy shopping soon & the GT350 is not even on my radar.
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Just some additional info. The targa top on the vette is really cool. 7 speed is kind of a bummer, would rather have a 6 speed manual. I will truly only use this car for back roads on the weekends, occasional errands and a road trip here and there.

I was only considering the GT350 for a number of months, but once I realized I could get a large discount on a new Grand Sport I started doing some research. The only criticism I have for the GT350 (without driving it of course) is its size and weight.
Nothing the M6 can do that the M7 can't do for you. Based on your needs, C7 is your car. The GT350 needs to be revved to the moon to be enjoyed on the street
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GT350 is still a Mustang. The best of the bunch yes. Sounds great, it that gets old after awhile. I thing the GS is a lot of car for the money. Does a lot right. But I still chose an M3 over it for the practicality.
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Definitely C7 if it was me. You have to drive both to fully appreciate the experience I would suggest.
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GT350 is still a Mustang.
Good point. The GT350 has the bones of a $25,000 rental car, while the C7 was designed as a performance car from the start.
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GT350 is still a Mustang. The best of the bunch yes. Sounds great, it that gets old after awhile. I thing the GS is a lot of car for the money. Does a lot right. But I still chose an M3 over it for the practicality.
M3 vs C7...apples to oranges.
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      05-14-2018, 09:38 AM   #33
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M3 vs C7...apples to oranges.
Reread the post - I stated that I chose the M3 for the practicality of it over the C7.
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      05-14-2018, 12:51 PM   #34
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Saying the GT350 is just a Mustang, is like saying the M3 is just a 320i. They are both based on predestrian cars. Ironically after their perspective brand tuners get a hold of either car, the GT350 ends up being the better performing car.
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I was only considering the GT350 for a number of months, but once I realized I could get a large discount on a new Grand Sport I started doing some research.
Save money up front on the C7 or save money on the GT350 when your done driving it. The GS is definitely going to drop in value at a quicker rate. The flat plane Voodoo engine is going to be a cult classic down the road. Last of a dying breed.
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Saying the GT350 is just a Mustang, is like saying the M3 is just a 320i. They are both based on predestrian cars. Ironically after their perspective brand tuners get a hold of either car, the GT350 ends up being the better performing car.
As an engineer at Ford for many years, I will respectfully disagree. My perspective is that BMW, especially the M3, is a superb all around vehicle that is highly performance-minded. For a weekend or track car, I suspect the GT350 is great. As a daily I think anyone would tire of it very quickly. I have 4 Fords, a bike and usually a sports car in my garage. Due to the practicality and utility of the M3, it is currently my special car.
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What does your M3 being more practical have to do with your statement? Saying the GT350 is just a Mustang, is just like saying the M3 is just a 320i. They are both an ignorant thing to say. What matters is the end product, not the starting point. When it comes down to it, the GT350 performance numbers exceed both M3 and M4.
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Well I bow to u mr know it all.
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When it comes down to it, the GT350 performance numbers exceed both M3 and M4.
My performance numbers include time out of service for recalls and components that have failed - plus braking from over 120 into Turn 12 at Road America, wondering if the GT350 would break and put me into the fence.

As far as what the used ones are worth, people actually selling them (not trying to sell them) are getting clobbered - even as dealers are still marking up the new ones. The engine is absolutely wonderful, but it can't make up for all the other things that are wrong with the car.

P.S. The M2 was not based on the 320i; it was based on a platform with a higher degree of performance.
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Oh yes, this gem. [IMG]https://www.cypruscars.com.cy/web_im...37d5a933b6.jpg[/img]
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      05-14-2018, 05:14 PM   #42
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GT350 all day out of those two options. However, you could get a C6 ZR1 for the same money and that car blows all of them out of the water. Just my .02.
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Gt350 seems more special to me.
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