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I'm all about heritage and continuing an iconic legacy. But at this point with these new electric cars/vehicles there is NO need for any grill whatsoever, especially one that doesn't complement the overall exterior design. Just make these cars look sleek and cool!
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It looks like a crossover. I am already bored
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This looks like crap to me.
When they try to hard, this comes out. I don't see any good looking thing in this. Porsche has a style, a line base on what they create new models and they look cool. Bmw has nothing. They just make strange and unnecessary boxes with 1 million lines. Sorry but for me the past is with Bmw sport sedans, but the future looks more promising on other sides. |
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Why discuss a grille that won't even look like this on the production model
Anyway... According to AutoMotorUndSport, this car will be named i5 and have op to 750km (465 miles) range, which would be impressive if true. https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...m-elektroauto/ |
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The iNext looks fine to me. Having it be a crossover makes sense as it would be much more viable in several wealthy global markets.
My only problem is the length of time until production. The market is getting filled out over the next 18 months and I'm not sure that the iX3 is futuristic enough to draw people away from the iPace abs new Merc EQ. Seems like BMW was first to market then Tesla made it rethink strategy and timeline. This retool has cost valuable time and market share. Personally, I want a performance BEV with few compromises, that can get 250 miles of spirited driving, hope that will be the i4, but don't know at this point. The Taycan may end up with my money and take me out of the market for at least 3 years. I have no further desire for an ICE and I think BMW underestimated the speed of this transition for enthusiasts. With that said, these next few EVs from BMW need to come quickly and serve as benchmarks before Tesla gets their shit together and Porsche corners the market.
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Just came from a cool guest speaker event at my University. This professor who has been in the automotive industry his whole life explained why electric cars will not replace combustion engines. At least from a fuel economy and efficiency standpoint, not in the next 50 years. He showed all the energy that is lost from the factory to the energy left getting to the wheels in both scenarios and straight electric cars (not hybrids) are actually less "energy efficient". With the consumer push for fuel economy and efficiency, electric motors are still behind the competition. Was a very interesting presentation.
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Look, I'm listening regularly to Prof. Dudenhöffer, the most respected "Car Pope" in the world. And his opinions are not that kind of nebulous statements your'e referring to. Your pro - if it really exists, what I doubt - is completely wrong and seems to have no idea at all. Edit: However, it is not so bad if the US falls behind in this regard. This opens up great opportunities for us in Europe and China. Last edited by BigT; 09-10-2018 at 09:24 AM.. Reason: additional text |
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However battery technology is evolving at an incredible pace, and is likely to continue to do so in the next 10 years. I could be wrong, but to me it seems that electric will win this race, and not in the far future.
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