Favorite Current-Gen 911

Year's_End · 01-12-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcube

Interesting that the poll (and subsequent posts) doesn't include Porsche's top selling models: The Cayenne and Panamera.

Looks like the typical discord between internet and real life. Or rather playing with monopoly money or paying real cash.

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Originally Posted by TK-421

This has to be one of the dumbest posts I've ever read.

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Originally Posted by TheRox

trust me, if it weren't for the Cayenne (and now the Panamera), the Porsche company (pre-VW) would NOT EXIST (well, likely someone would have bought it out and saved it, but even they need to be profitable eventually)

The Cayenne saved Porsche from going bankrupt. This is simply the bottom line.

My only problem with Porsche is the new cheap-boxster (lower boxster) and the new cheap-Caynne (the Cajun?) that will be priced around $35-40K...its going to devalue the Porsche name.

The Panamera is priced the same as a 911, so I have no issue with that.

I think it's the fact that Bcube's comment has nothing to do with the thread, considering the thread title clearly states "favorite current-gen 911".

TK-421 · 01-13-2011, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikkahtropolis

I think it's the fact that Bcube's comment has nothing to do with the thread, considering the thread title clearly states "favorite current-gen 911".

THANK YOU. That's exactly what I was getting at.

Yogijet · 01-13-2011, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by shift@red

You do realize the GT3 RS is RWD and the same 3.8 F6, only producing 450 hp, right?

I do but am interested in the GT3, not the GT3-RS. The references were meant to indicate that I have no interest in any of the FI and/or AWD variants.

gonzo · 01-13-2011, 08:12 AM

Reading portions of this thread made me want to crush and snort a Xanax.

"It looks like a toad" "The engine is placed in the wrong location"
"I love it" "Thinking of buying the next version 911"

"AWD with a 6 speed bogs off the line"

wait...what?

The Sport Classic. My favorite visually by far. But..

How many of these have actually sold? Champion has had their white 10' for some time now. $155,000.00

More power to the buyer of this but for about the same money you could jump into a new and well optioned turbo or a no frills turbo S for a few clams more/albeit they have just about everything important from the factory performance wise in place.

Bcube · 01-13-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TK-421

This has to be one of the dumbest posts I've ever read.

You're right, I was feeling especially stupid yesterday. Bottom line, just a personal curiosity as to why the BMW forums are infatuated with Porsche.

BrokenVert · 01-13-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bcube

You're right, I was feeling especially stupid yesterday. Bottom line, just a personal curiosity as to why the BMW forums are infatuated with Porsche.

Because people can be interested in more than one brand. And pcars are among the best drivers cars on the market. What's not to love?

gonzo · 01-13-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bcube

You're right, I was feeling especially stupid yesterday. Bottom line, just a personal curiosity as to why the BMW forums are infatuated with Porsche.

I am personally infatuated with attractive tall brunettes that have olive skin and don't talk much but not a car brand.

There are many P car fans on this site. There are also several P car bashers.

This is the general automotive section.

Bcube · 01-13-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo

I am personally infatuated with attractive tall brunettes that have olive skin and don't talk much but not a car brand.

There are many P car fans on this site. There are also several P car bashers.

This is the general automotive section.

To be clear, I'm am not bashing the Brand. Indeed, I recently test drove the Panamera and Cayenne to see if this is a direction I would want to go. And no knock to the many P car fans, it just sometimes seems there are more Porsche fans on the BMW forums - not just this one, than even on the Porsche boards.

KingOfJericho · 01-13-2011, 09:55 AM

Targa 4S for me. I just LOVE that roof line.

Bcube · 01-13-2011, 10:11 AM

To make my post more relevant to this thread:

I have a friend who came recently into a windfall. He is very determined to get a GT2 or GT3, preferably new. For some reason, he has asked me to help him decide which Porsche of the two to get. Here is the rub, he is a Porsche fan, but has never owned one, and I have zero experience except from what I've read about them. I tend toward Italian exotics...

Maybe that is why I am being asked to be his "conscious" so-to-speak as I have a neutral bias toward the Porsche Brand.

So, staying in the 2000ish decade, are there major differences between last gen and current gen? And what is the advantage or disadvantage between the GT2 & GT3?

Yogijet · 01-13-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bcube

And what is the advantage or disadvantage between the GT2 & GT3?

I think the GT2 variants are commonly called "widowmaker"

. I suspect the combination of the turbo engine, rwd and rear weight bias makes it quite a thrill ride.

gonzo · 01-13-2011, 10:51 AM

^ Both are quick cars. Obviously he would need to research and drive.

With that said, the GT2 is not for the novice of any form. I have never had the pleasure of driving one but I do read alot. When the boost kicks in it is supposed to be neck snapping/tree hugging.

IMO if he wants to get into a P car an 07-08 GT3 with CPO would be an awesome choice. Hope it is not his DD because they are on the stiff side. Heck, maybe he likes that...

TK-421 · 01-13-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yogijet

I think the GT2 variants are commonly called "widowmaker"

. I suspect the combination of the turbo engine, rwd and rear weight bias makes it quite a thrill ride.

The GT2 is a softie. This is the real Widowmaker:

If I could have any 911, it would be the 930. Truly epic on so many levels.

michaelthepsycho · 01-13-2011, 12:17 PM

GT3 RS for the paint scheme and stick-only configuration.
Otherwise... Turbo (non-S)

epbrown · 01-13-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcube

And no knock to the many P car fans, it just sometimes seems there are more Porsche fans on the BMW forums - not just this one, than even on the Porsche boards.

The groups aren't mutually exclusive - if you joined a Porsche forum you'd discover that lots of Porsche owners daily drive BMWs. I asked for daily driver recs on a Porsche forum and the recs for BMW were pretty much unanimous. BMW is why Porsche has released the Cayenne and Panamera - they found their customers commonly owned X5s and M5s as daily drivers and wanted to keep those people "in brand."

Bcube · 01-13-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by epbrown

The groups aren't mutually exclusive - if you joined a Porsche forum you'd discover that lots of Porsche owners daily drive BMWs. I asked for daily driver recs on a Porsche forum and the recs for BMW were pretty much unanimous. BMW is why Porsche has released the Cayenne and Panamera - they found their customers commonly owned X5s and M5s as daily drivers and wanted to keep those people "in brand."

Thanks for that, informative. Helps make the connect between the demographics. Ferrari owners are too varied in their "experiences" to develop or map out a trend of what automobile brand is their preferred daily driver.

For example: (and this is just a rough generalization from my observations on bimmer boards):

Japanese Car (usually Toyota) -> BMW -> "dream car"* Porsche.

* The term "dream car" is not being used in a negative context

BrokenVert · 01-13-2011, 01:43 PM

^ a lot Of guys come from the STi world aswell

Bcube · 01-13-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BrokenVert

^ a lot Of guys come from the STi world aswell

Hilarious!

My friend's current ride is an STI. Prev gen sedan with the big wing. 30K miles and immaculate. Driving his subie had made me think about picking up one as a DD, till the wife reminded me I was too old, too fat, and well, mostly too old.

Yogijet · 01-13-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BrokenVert

^ a lot Of guys come from the STi world aswell

True word. I came from a Forester Turbo stick - not the STi but a WRX on stilts.

Yogijet · 01-13-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcube

For example: (and this is just a rough generalization from my observations on bimmer boards):

Japanese Car (usually Toyota) -> BMW -> "dream car"* Porsche.

* The term "dream car" is not being used in a negative context

Probably not way off mark there as for me:

Subaru (WRX-engined) Forester -> 135i (current) -> 997.2 911 GT3/C2S (future).

Closest thing to a dream car for me would be the Ghost or any V-12 Ferrari.

Yogijet · 01-13-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TK-421

The GT2 is a softie. This is the real Widowmaker:

If I could have any 911, it would be the 930. Truly epic on so many levels.

Cant' disagree. They've become a lot 'safer' since that one.

Los Angeles · 01-13-2011, 03:20 PM

Turbo.

All day.

View Poll Results: The best 997.2 would be the...
Carrera S - a perfect combo that avoids extremes	8	7.02%
Carrera 4S - got to have the wider arches and AWD traction	6	5.26%
Targa 4S - need that panoramic glass	4	3.51%
GTS - the GT3 that you can DD no problem, plus it looks sleeker than the avg 911	16	14.04%
Turbo/Turbo S - peerless in a straight line	25	21.93%
GT3 - the perfect weekend car; a driving scalpel	29	25.44%
GT3 RS - the best track-ready 911 on the market	34	29.82%
GT2 RS - RWD + 620hp + weight savings = obvious choice	31	27.19%
Speedster - got to love the 356 reference	4	3.51%
Sport Classic - the ducktail ties the whole design together, plus it's exclusive	8	7.02%
I pretty much like them all. They basically look the same.	2	1.75%
All 911s look ugly. I was dropped on the head when I was a baby.	4	3.51%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 114. You may not vote on this poll

01-13-2011, 08:12 AM	#48
gonzo Lieutenant General 10209 Rep 14,401 Posts Drives: as many as possible Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: TeXXXas iTrader: (0)	Reading portions of this thread made me want to crush and snort a Xanax. "It looks like a toad" "The engine is placed in the wrong location" "I love it" "Thinking of buying the next version 911" "AWD with a 6 speed bogs off the line" wait...what? The Sport Classic. My favorite visually by far. But.. How many of these have actually sold? Champion has had their white 10' for some time now. $155,000.00 More power to the buyer of this but for about the same money you could jump into a new and well optioned turbo or a no frills turbo S for a few clams more/albeit they have just about everything important from the factory performance wise in place. __________________ Crazy Diamond Last edited by gonzo; 01-13-2011 at 08:18 AM..
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Bcube Been there, wrecked that. 18 Rep 547 Posts Drives: '07 E93 335i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	To make my post more relevant to this thread: I have a friend who came recently into a windfall. He is very determined to get a GT2 or GT3, preferably new. For some reason, he has asked me to help him decide which Porsche of the two to get. Here is the rub, he is a Porsche fan, but has never owned one, and I have zero experience except from what I've read about them. I tend toward Italian exotics... Maybe that is why I am being asked to be his "conscious" so-to-speak as I have a neutral bias toward the Porsche Brand. So, staying in the 2000ish decade, are there major differences between last gen and current gen? And what is the advantage or disadvantage between the GT2 & GT3? __________________ -Brian ~199K miles. I -still- don't fear my 335i.
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gonzo Lieutenant General 10209 Rep 14,401 Posts Drives: as many as possible Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: TeXXXas iTrader: (0)	^ Both are quick cars. Obviously he would need to research and drive. With that said, the GT2 is not for the novice of any form. I have never had the pleasure of driving one but I do read alot. When the boost kicks in it is supposed to be neck snapping/tree hugging. IMO if he wants to get into a P car an 07-08 GT3 with CPO would be an awesome choice. Hope it is not his DD because they are on the stiff side. Heck, maybe he likes that... __________________ Crazy Diamond
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