MB GLA45 4 cylinder turbo 375hp 4.3 0-60

[knepsterd]

Why the f$ck can't BMW make some mid entry or mid trim SUVs like this
There should be a x3 or X1 to blow this away
And they need a v6 turbo that goes sub 4.5 for a standard x5 that's not a 120k dollar boat which is the x5m.

[Kzang]

Wow from a 4 banger? Auto engineers are really pushing the limits here utilizing the turbo! First the 6 cylinder making V8 HP and now 4 cylinders! That is pretty impressive!
Not sure if I would consider it though for a 4 cylinder engine.. I would need to experience if there will be a difference in sound, initial take off torque feel, and upper speed acceleration. I guess the same could be said about inline 6 vs V8

[Recdog11]

I'd say the way of the future..
But really the future will be electric instant torque purpulsion.. Like the I8

[bjcarls]

Originally Posted by knepsterd

Why the f$ck can't BMW make some mid entry or mid trim SUVs like this
There should be a x3 or X1 to blow this away
And they need a v6 turbo that goes sub 4.5 for a standard x5 that's not a 120k dollar boat which is the x5m.

Why though? Has anyone asked for it? I highly doubt the performance consumer wants an X4M package and even so the 35i does 60 in 5 seconds. Add MPPK and your close enough. This is a small and imo pointless category to spend resources. I don't always get why MB does AMG treatment across the board. Strategy I guess or because Audi has the SQ5?

Edit: And it's 355hp, still a decent number.

[knepsterd]

Nice to know one has the capability, there is a market and people buy them, heck I had a 2003 E55 and a 2009 C63 and loved them for their straight power and get up and go. Reliability was so-so, but performance engines for sure. Many Im sure on this forum would welcome a 4.5 sec. 3.5 v6 turbo as standard. If performance was not an issue how come we are all trying to extract power from MPPK plus Dinan JB or Rc add ons.

[cenix]

MB is really developing great high pressure turbo 4-cylinder motors. I believe their 8-cylinders are variants or designed after these new generation 4 bangers. Will be impressive to see further tuning on these motors.

[bjcarls]

Originally Posted by cenix

MB is really developing great high pressure turbo 4-cylinder motors. I believe their 8-cylinders are variants or designed after these new generation 4 bangers. Will be impressive to see further tuning on these motors.

As are the BMW i4's and i6's. Common architecture, I hope it continues to develop HP and efficiency.

[bjcarls]

Your wish is here!
http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1178995

355 hp @ 5800-6000 RPM
343 lb-ft @ 1350-5250 RPM
0-60 mph: 4.7 sec
Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires (front 245/40 R20, rear 275/35 R20)

[iconoclast]

Originally Posted by knepsterd

Why the f$ck can't BMW make some mid entry or mid trim SUVs like this
There should be a x3 or X1 to blow this away
And they need a v6 turbo that goes sub 4.5 for a standard x5 that's not a 120k dollar boat which is the x5m.

because nobody purchased an x1 35i let alone purchase it $10-12k higher. if the market commanded it they would offer it. audi does the SQ5 and not having any issues selling them. BMW struggled to get the x1 35i off the lot and custom builds with high sticker were basically non-existent unless sold as exec demos.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

because nobody purchased an x1 35i let alone purchase it $10-12k higher. if the market commanded it they would offer it. audi does the SQ5 and not having any issues selling them.

Right - the Q5 is one class above the X1. It is an X3 equivalent. Demand for performance SUVs is higher in this class, hence BMW getting into the game with the X4 M40i now. And for the next generation (G01/G02) they will add an X3 equivalent of that, as well both a true X3 M and X4 M too.

BMW struggled to get the x1 35i off the lot and custom builds with high sticker were basically non-existent unless sold as exec demos.

Nevertheless, there are rumors of F48 X1 and F47 X2 "M35i" coming at some point (as well as other 35i UKL vehicles), using a ~300hp B48 variant. We may see this come to pass with the introduction of the F47 X2 later this year.

Interestingly, both Mercedes and Audi choose to offer only the entry level and high-end performance vehicle in this class. For Mercedes, there is a CLA250 and CLA45, but no "CLA32" (or whatever it would be called). For Audi, there is the standard Q3 and RS Q3 (the latter not sold in the US), but no S Q3. Perhaps the market for a tweener is still not established. We'll see if BMW can break new ground there - that is if they do intend to offer the "M35i" soon as has been rumored.

[wuzupfoo]

I would imagine this is a really laggy and peaky car.. coupled with mostly FWD platform and tack on AWD... and this definitely isnt a SUV.. not sure why you are so excited about it?

The lower powered models actually probably make great daily driver if you need a hatch and can afford the MB tax.

[lens]

Originally Posted by wuzupfoo

I would imagine this is a really laggy and peaky car.. coupled with mostly FWD platform and tack on AWD... and this definitely isnt a SUV.. not sure why you are so excited about it?

The lower powered models actually probably make great daily driver if you need a hatch and can afford the MB tax.

The previous gen CLA/GLA45 had crappy DCT7 transmissions, but when they did work, there was very little lag. Still a very quick car.

New gen (2017) has updated transmission and front mechanical differential, so expect a even faster car with a better functional AWD system.

You cannot deny for it's price fully loaded (costs about 5k lessI believe), it does run faster than a 340i, also with FBO (includes ECU flash), the CLA/GLA45 runs 0-60 in 3.3 secs and 1/4mile in low 11s, thanks to the AMG forged engine, and 26 psi of stock boost on turbo.

Interior could be better, and back seats are a bit cramped on the CLA45, I do think the new gen is a bit better from what I hear.

[dcpatters]

Test drove a GLA45 AMG variant. Its a blast to drive. Begged my wife to.lease one but astestically she didn't like it. She said, the only reason why you like it is because of the power. I'm like, and? Already had a tune in mind.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by wuzupfoo

I would imagine this is a really laggy and peaky car.. coupled with mostly FWD platform and tack on AWD... and this definitely isnt a SUV.. not sure why you are so excited about it.

It sure is an SUV. Of course, the term "SUV" has a formal definition which is owned or regulated by some standards body. However, the vehicle is marketed as an SUV so that's exactly what it is. Of course, if it were actually a roadster or tractor trailer in form and marketed as an SUV, that would make for a pretty poor marketing approach. Luckily it isn't - its a compact AWD hatchback with an elevated ride height. That's enough for the buying public to accept it as an SUV.

What makes the GLA45 exciting to me is the versatility combined with performance. If I had to choose a current-model vehicle other than an F80 M3, this would definitely make it to the short list. This, especially now that they've addressed a few things with the LCI.

[Never_Enough]

& with a tune that thing probably really flies for what it is

[wuzupfoo]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

It sure is an SUV. Of course, the term "SUV" has a formal definition which is owned or regulated by some standards body. However, the vehicle is marketed as an SUV so that's exactly what it is. Of course, if it were actually a roadster or tractor trailer in form and marketed as an SUV, that would make for a pretty poor marketing approach. Luckily it isn't - its a compact AWD hatchback with an elevated ride height. That's enough for the buying public to accept it as an SUV.

What makes the GLA45 exciting to me is the versatility combined with performance. If I had to choose a current-model vehicle other than an F80 M3, this would definitely make it to the short list. This, especially now that they've addressed a few things with the LCI.

yea i think i have more narrow interpretation. All these "hatchbacks with elevated height" are just wagons to me... but definitely its subjective.

Also i havent driven a turbo 4 banger since I was molesting VW 1.8T with big turbos to get such numbers so thats been over a decade (wow where the does the years go!) so im sure tech has gotten better at hiding the dynamics of a big blower attached a 4 cyl but im definitely skeptical that this is a better solution that a proper 6 cylinder.

My opinion is that 4 cyl with big turbos for big numbers have their place but not as a "SUV." Im thinking its place is for performance like in a compact rocket rather than for everyday utility. Something along the lines of the incoming M2 setup in this car.

Actually if BMW were to ever build the M2 in a wagon or shooting brake design I would love it for a second car.

Either way just an opinion..

[gtron]

Could you imagine how fun a manual GLA45? I would get one.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by gtron

Could you imagine how fun a manual GLA45? I would get one.

I take it you've never driven a manual MB? Think Jeep Wrangler.

[mremg]

One of my neighbours has one. It sure does look great and sounds great. It pretty low for a car marketed as an SUV. (The AMG version, the non-AMG is pretty high). I would say it is almost the same height as a Mazda 3 hatch. It is a hot hatch/wagon, at this point we're just arguing semantics.

I personally wouldn't buy one, but I can see the appeal of it.

[wuzupfoo]

Originally Posted by mremg

One of my neighbours has one. It sure does look great and sounds great. It pretty low for a car marketed as an SUV. (The AMG version, the non-AMG is pretty high). I would say it is almost the same height as a Mazda 3 hatch. It is a hot hatch/wagon, at this point we're just arguing semantics.

I personally wouldn't buy one, but I can see the appeal of it.

I actually havent seen one in the flesh yet.. totally judging it by what my neighbors looks like (a standard non AMG one). So probably not giving it enough credit and imagining a high riding car while this one is sportier.

and yes you dont want an MB manual... they are notorious... I test drove one of the last C230 sport to come with a manual awhile back and it was a notchy rubbery sloppy nightmare.

[gtron]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

I take it you've never driven a manual MB? Think Jeep Wrangler.

You are correct, sir.

[iconoclast]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Right - the Q5 is one class above the X1. It is an X3 equivalent.

rumored to have an s/rsq3 in the works for us/nar.