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Nucular Fusion- Is going to change the world
The recent breakthrough in nuclear fusion is going to change the world ....and possibly save it.
when we can get as much energy out of a 8oz glass of sea water as a barrel of oil we are on our way to a much better world. A lot of the handwringing about the energy grid and infrastructure issues about going full electric will most likely be solved by this. Obviously it isn't going to happen over night, but that 2035 benchmark will be much more attainable Luckily we will be one of the last generations to enjoy some of the greatest ICE vehicles ever, but I'm not sure my grandkids will.... btw, I'm actually thinking of selling my F32 and picking up a Model S considering how the used market has dropped on them lately. Won't be ditching my 718 or Rubicon anytime soon though Neil deGrasse Tyson says this is akin as going from the horse and buggy to the age of the automobile in terms of the leap we just made in technology |
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I'll get enthusiastic after several independent big brains are allowed in and can replicate the same result.
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The pessimist in me says there is no way they will ever let an over-abundance of cheap energy exist. It will likely be arbitrarily rationed and controlled in order to keep demand, and control, high. On the flip side, humanity wouldn't know what to do with it, anyway, and likely just find a faster way to self-destruction.
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They should be using Qtotal, not Qbeam or Qplasma, comparing to Qoutput. When you see how much energy it takes to create what was made, then you realize why we are so far away from making it a reality or practical source of "fuel". To give you an idea, the laser is less than 1% efficient. Tritium is also a big problem, if the reaction uses it, we have a very finite supply. The NIF is a weapons testing facility that can and has been used to test "fusion", but they can't test any practical application. Other reactors are attempting to, but they run into the very real issue that Qtotal is just a fraction of what is produced. There are new and emerging technologies that are attempting to get closer to an actual break-even situation, but these are a very long way from any practical application. This concept of Qtotal is explained more in the video below: She's a little more positive here, but touches on the Qtotal issue again: It's hypothesized that some people are happy to keep the public and media ignorant of the difference between Qtotal and Qbeam/plasma, but it also pisses people off, when they then ask, "well what happened, I thought we were right around the corner!?".
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Nuclear fusion has been achieved for many years. The big deal here is getting more energy out of the reaction than goes into the reaction, but this is just a very small step, because it's not really meaningful to get 2watts of fusion energy from 1 watt of laser energy if it takes 1000 watts to power the laser. THAT is the problem.
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Nuclear fusion is one of the most important steps for the future of nuclear power, so a couple of weeks ago it was a breakthrough. The amount of energy that was put in for what came out wasn't feasible in the real world, but to prove it can be done is incredible. People have talked about nuclear fusion plants being up and running by 2032, not realistic from what I have read. But I can see a future by 2050's that it might become commonplace.
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Not in my lifetime. Now maybe in 150-200 years sure. Thinking this great but how do you contain it and so forth.
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and once you've perfected that the uses are limitless...self sustaining clean energy would be one of mankind's greatest achievements Sounds like you know much more about this than I do, but when some of the smartest people in the world are this excited about something so revolutionary it's hard not to be excited about the possibilities something like this will bring.... |
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Aren't these the same scientist that are developing our next generation EV and power grid storage batteries?
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You are asking of the physicists and nuclear engineers on this project are also developing batteries? If you are going to say "same", then please state the names of who you are talking about.
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Scientist have invented a Fusion process that works better than the prevailing process Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the timelines of scientific discoveries reaching market readiness? |
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You would think the scientist would be smart enough to compute all the energy it took to produce the fusion not just the laser energy not saying this lady is off, but other smart people on YouTube seem pretty excited about this breakthrough....like Neil said, once the physics have been achieved the engineers can now figure out how to harness it. Most people would agree NGT is a pretty smart dude and he said this was a pivot point for mankind Last edited by Socal_R8; 12-30-2022 at 12:23 AM.. |
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I don't know, I just can't see ICE vehicles going away. Fossil fuel burning isn't the problem, it's doing so much of it that the earth can't handle it. Same with drinking a soda or eating a twinkie, it's ok as long as it's not all you drink and eat. With just the major producers of carbon out of the game or off the road I think it'll be fine to have an ICE car. Of course, like cigarettes they'll be taxed to death, but you gotta' pay to play.
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yes, ICE vehicles will be around for the rest of our lives, but I can see the day where they become maybe 5-10% of all new vehicles produced by 2040 btw, I test drove a Mach-E GT today....Ho-lee shiiiit I was amazed how fuggin fast that thing was....never should have test drove it, cuz now I want one |
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