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      12-08-2017, 10:51 PM   #67
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That's a perspective seen from the Israel side. But when you occupy the other side treat them like slaves, control their movement shut down the borders, assault them, do you really expect people to standby? If it's so bad why is Israel building illegal settlements? We know Israel is tied into American policy, lobbyist etc. so we know you have convinced America, but the interesting thing is the whole world doesn't see it that way.
Occupy? Where do you think thr Jewish people came from? Some never left Israel
The majority of the population in Israel today consist of Zionist immigrants. The majority of those the Zionist settlers that illegally occupy Palestinian Territories stolen from Palestinian people are illegal Zionist immigrant settlers which immigrated in from abroad illegally into Palestinian Territories. The feud is with the new Zionist immigrants. In the past the Israelis lived in peace with the Palestinians. It was not until the Zionists came in from abroad until the troubles started. Just look at the family trees and you will easily see this.

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Personally I think fuck em, Jerusalem has been the historical & spiritual capital of Israel for over 3000 years & the decision to not formally recognise this by many countries is just so as to not upset the Arabs, although I rather suspect that this will unfortunately be the cause of yet many more deaths.
According to the same historical source, Jerusalem has been a historical capital for Palestinians that predates the Moses era .
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The majority of the population in Israel today consist of Zionist immigrants. The majority of those the Zionist settlers that illegally occupy Palestinian Territories stolen from Palestinian people are illegal Zionist immigrant settlers which immigrated in from abroad illegally into Palestinian Territories. The feud is with the new Zionist immigrants. In the past the Israelis lived in peace with the Palestinians. It was not until the Zionists came in from abroad until the troubles started. Just look at the family trees and you will easily see this.

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Look buddy, Jerusalem was part of Judea. In 1948 the majority of settlers were European jews returning to their Homeland after the persecution of Jews in Europe.
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Muslims occupied the Jewish land and ran most out of their land as a result of Muslim conquests!

If anyone stole any territories, it's the Muslims!

Some here need to read up on the Muslim conquest of the Levant.
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Muslims occupied the Jewish land and ran most out of their land as a result of Muslim conquests!

If anyone stole any territories, it's the Muslims!

Some here need to read up on the Muslim conquest of the Levant.
Christians didnt do that also ? I mean they tagged Jews as the enemies of Christ.
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According to the same historical source, Jerusalem has been a historical capital for Palestinians that predates the Moses era .
Yep it was Palestine before it was Israel. I still say fuck em though, all of them Palestinians & Zionists
All the while the US is backing Israel there's not much the Arabs can do, they could start calling the Capitol of America London as a protest
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Christians didnt do that also ? I mean they tagged Jews as the enemies of Christ.
Our libtards always remind us that we stole native American land but never say anything about the peaceful Muslims stealing Jewish territories.
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Christians didnt do that also ? I mean they tagged Jews as the enemies of Christ.
That's your excuse, the Christians did it too?

By the way, the Christians aren't fighting the jews anymore, the Muslims still are.
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I read a story like this and don't get why Trump and Netanyahu had to inflame the region

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/a...icials-n724586
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Our libtards always remind us that we stole native American land but never say anything about the peaceful Muslims stealing Jewish territories.
You made reference to the Muslim conquest of Levant. The Muslim conquest in that era was against the Byzantine rule ie Christians, that "occupied" and ruled the land, not the Jews.

So explain how did Muslims steal the land from the Jews in that era when the Byzantine Christians occupied it whom the Muslim captured it from ?
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That's your excuse, the Christians did it too?

By the way, the Christians aren't fighting the jews anymore, the Muslims still are.
We went from Christians, Muslims, and Jews fighting over some real estate in the Middle East to just Muslims and Jews. What can I say progress has been made.
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By the way, the Christians aren't fighting the jews anymore, the Muslims still are.
You mean Arab and Jewish Nationalists are fighting each other. Dont get the their "religions" mixed up with their political and cultural conflicts.

Lots of Jews and Muslim around the world that get along well, help each other and protect one another.
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It's as dumb as calling native Americans settlers when they buy land and live outside of the res.
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You made reference to the Muslim conquest of Levant. The Muslim conquest in that era was against the Byzantine rule ie Christians, that "occupied" and ruled the land, not the Jews.

So explain how did Muslims steal the land from the Jews in that era when the Byzantine Christians occupied it whom the Muslim captured it from ?
So you're arguing that Muslims stole the land from Christians who stole it from the Jews. Lol

The Israelite tribe of Judah lived in Judea, In the 8th century Jerusalem was the administrative center of the Kingdom of Judah.
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So you're arguing that Muslims stole the land from Christians who stole it from the Jews. Lol

Israelite*tribe of Judah lived in Judea, In the 8th century it was the administrative center of the*Kingdom of Judah.
Your statement was misleading and false. Jews fall right into the same revolving door as Christians and Muslims

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Jerusalem

that said, based on your own logic, the Jews stole the land also.

8th century events have nothing to do with Muslims Conquest of Levant that occurred in the 7th Century you referenced as a supporting claim.
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Muslims occupied the Jewish land and ran most out of their land as a result of Muslim conquests!

If anyone stole any territories, it's the Muslims!

Some here need to read up on the Muslim conquest of the Levant.
Christians didnt do that also ? I mean they tagged Jews as the enemies of Christ.
I don't recall Christians running the Jews (or Muslims) out of Israel, and occupying it?
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Your statement was misleading and false. Jews fall right into the same revolving door as Christians and Muslims

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Jerusalem

that said, based on your own logic, the Jews stole the land also.

8th century events have nothing to do with Muslims Conquest of Levant that occurred in the 7th Century you referenced as a supporting claim.


Are you now arguing that Muslims didn't steal Judea from the Israelite tribe of Judea?

Jetusalem was the administrative center of the Kingdom of Judah.

Jude (German), people of Judea, makes sense to you?
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So you're arguing that Muslims stole the land from Christians who stole it from the Jews. Lol

Israelite*tribe of Judah lived in Judea, In the 8th century it was the administrative center of the*Kingdom of Judah.
Your statement was misleading and false. Jews fall right into the same revolving door as Christians and Muslims

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Jerusalem

that said, based on your own logic, the Jews stole the land also.

8th century events have nothing to do with Muslims Conquest of Levant that occurred in the 7th Century you referenced as a supporting claim.
Based upon your Wikipedia link, Abraham binding Issac (a Jew) is the first recorded history of Jerusalem. Jews trace their lineage to Issac, whereas Muslims trace their lineage to Ishmael. So it would seem the Jews have the first claim?
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Are you now arguing that Muslims didn't steal Judea from the Israelite tribe of Judea?

Jetusalem was the administrative center of the Kingdom of Judah.

Jude (German), people of Judea, makes sense to you?
Nope, I'm arguing your initial 7th century claim
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Look buddy, Jerusalem was part of Judea. In 1948 the majority of settlers were European jews returning to their Homeland after the persecution of Jews in Europe.
That statement could not be any more false. The majority of them whom are there now were never there to begin with. The fact that there were Jews there before does not mean that people can move in today from the middle of no where and kick Palestinians off their land and tell them that in The Talmud it said this was our land. That is a crock of BS!
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Whether they be Jews or Arabs if we go back in time far enough before there was a Jerusalem, that area was settled in 4500-3500BCE by Egyptians because it was the site of a water Spring & the city that grew there was called Rusalimum (according to Wikipedia). It also states that both the Arabic & Jewish words for peace come from the name of the ancient city....how ironic
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Look buddy, Jerusalem was part of Judea. In 1948 the majority of settlers were European jews returning to their Homeland after the persecution of Jews in Europe.
That statement could not be any more false. The majority of them whom are there now were never there to begin with. The fact that there were Jews there before does not mean that people can move in today from the middle of no where and kick Palestinians off their land and tell them that in The Talmud it said this was our land. That is a crock of BS!
Read many of your posts and it is obvious what side you are on.

Question- Would there be peace if Trump did not implement the Jerusalem embassy act?
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