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      09-03-2021, 09:51 PM   #4291
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Well the officer would need to treat the DUI-cannabis stop the same way he/she would treat the DUI-alcohol stop. So, SFST's would be performed and the suspect would be subjected to a PAS test. At that point, a DRE (…e.g. Sedan_Clan) would be called in to perform a DRE evaluation to determine impairment. Again, it is the impairment that must be proven, not just the simple usage or presence of the drug in a person's system. It's the same approach with alcohol. Having alcohol in your system does not mean you are impaired. The officer would need to make the case for the impairment.

Some THC tests are more thorough than others, so the level of testing is determined by how much a department is willing to spend.

Also keep in mind that it is the behavior behind the wheel that will get the officer's attention in the first place. Erratic driving behavior will be articulated, and once the investigation proves the impairment, therein lies the core aspects of the arrest.
Sounds fair enough. Use the same tests for impairment for any substance. For that matter if someone is just too tired and can't stay focused - boom.

I know for myself I can drive fine on one drink. Any more than that is a no go. So pretty much I drink what I want - when I'm not driving. And don't drink at all if driving.

On those occasions when I am downwind of the stoners (legal here in AZ now) and I get a contact high () I also restrict my driving privileges. I'm way too old and good looking to go to jail.
Fatigue isn't treated the same. Sure, the initial stop might be to investigate a DUI based on erratic driving, but we can discern between fatigue and drug and/or alcohol use. The body communicates impairment pretty obviously if the person/observer knows what to look for.


Lol @ your final point. I get you bro!
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Well the officer would need to treat the DUI-cannabis stop the same way he/she would treat the DUI-alcohol stop. So, SFST's would be performed and the suspect would be subjected to a PAS test. At that point, a DRE (…e.g. Sedan_Clan) would be called in to perform a DRE evaluation to determine impairment. Again, it is the impairment that must be proven, not just the simple usage or presence of the drug in a person's system. It's the same approach with alcohol. Having alcohol in your system does not mean you are impaired. The officer would need to make the case for the impairment.

Some THC tests are more thorough than others, so the level of testing is determined by how much a department is willing to spend.

Also keep in mind that it is the behavior behind the wheel that will get the officer's attention in the first place. Erratic driving behavior will be articulated, and once the investigation proves the impairment, therein lies the core aspects of the arrest.
Sounds fair enough. Use the same tests for impairment for any substance. For that matter if someone is just too tired and can't stay focused - boom.

I know for myself I can drive fine on one drink. Any more than that is a no go. So pretty much I drink what I want - when I'm not driving. And don't drink at all if driving.

On those occasions when I am downwind of the stoners (legal here in AZ now) and I get a contact high () I also restrict my driving privileges. I'm way too old and good looking to go to jail.
Fatigue isn't treated the same. Sure, the initial stop might be to investigate a DUI based on erratic driving, but we can discern between fatigue and drug and/or alcohol use. The body communicates impairment pretty obviously if the person/observer knows what to look for.


Lol @ your final point. I get you bro!
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@Sedan_Clan Are you 10-8 this weekend? If so, are you expecting a busier holiday weekend? State police here announced DWI checkpoints and heavier patrols. I just went out to run errands and didn't see a single cop
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@Sedan_Clan Are you 10-8 this weekend? If so, are you expecting a busier holiday weekend? State police here announced DWI checkpoints and heavier patrols. I just went out to run errands and didn't see a single cop
I kick-off tonight at 2200 hours and don't return until 1400 hours Wednesday. I'm glad I'm not working the holiday. Lol!
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@Sedan_Clan Are you 10-8 this weekend? If so, are you expecting a busier holiday weekend? State police here announced DWI checkpoints and heavier patrols. I just went out to run errands and didn't see a single cop
I kick-off tonight at 2200 hours and don't return until 1400 hours Wednesday. I'm glad I'm not working the holiday. Lol!
Yeah it's a shit show here. Grab a squad car and get some OT while working on your tan.

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@Sedan_Clan Are you 10-8 this weekend? If so, are you expecting a busier holiday weekend? State police here announced DWI checkpoints and heavier patrols. I just went out to run errands and didn't see a single cop
If had been stopped after golf today DWI for sure. Of course I drove home on private roads in my golf cart so no menace to society.
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@Sedan_Clan Are you 10-8 this weekend? If so, are you expecting a busier holiday weekend? State police here announced DWI checkpoints and heavier patrols. I just went out to run errands and didn't see a single cop
I kick-off tonight at 2200 hours and don't return until 1400 hours Wednesday. I'm glad I'm not working the holiday. Lol!
Yeah it's a shit show here. Grab a squad car and get some OT while working on your tan.

You know the ladies love a man in uni.
I generally stay away from those I come across while at work. They tend to be more problems than they are worth. I prefer to fly under the radar.
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@Sedan_Clan Are you 10-8 this weekend? If so, are you expecting a busier holiday weekend? State police here announced DWI checkpoints and heavier patrols. I just went out to run errands and didn't see a single cop
I kick-off tonight at 2200 hours and don't return until 1400 hours Wednesday. I'm glad I'm not working the holiday. Lol!
Yeah it's a shit show here. Grab a squad car and get some OT while working on your tan.

You know the ladies love a man in uni.
I generally stay away from those I come across while at work. They tend to be more problems than they are worth. I prefer to fly under the radar.
Outgrew daddy issues phase, ehh?

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@Sedan_Clan Are you 10-8 this weekend? If so, are you expecting a busier holiday weekend? State police here announced DWI checkpoints and heavier patrols. I just went out to run errands and didn't see a single cop
I kick-off tonight at 2200 hours and don't return until 1400 hours Wednesday. I'm glad I'm not working the holiday. Lol!
Yeah it's a shit show here. Grab a squad car and get some OT while working on your tan.

You know the ladies love a man in uni.
I generally stay away from those I come across while at work. They tend to be more problems than they are worth. I prefer to fly under the radar.
Outgrew daddy issues phase, ehh?

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Never liked those either. I'm too old for that. Lol!
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Yeah, but do you know how hard it is to find a woman whose gag reflex is as absent as her daddy issues? They're damn near mutually exclusive.

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I hope he doesn't respond and is wildin' out with his woman until Wednesday when back to the shit show.
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I hope he doesn't respond and is wildin' out with his woman until Wednesday when back to the shit show.



We actually just got back to Rancho Cucamonga from Ventura. We went to visit her son who was down for the weekend from college.
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I hope he doesn't respond and is wildin' out with his woman until Wednesday when back to the shit show.



We actually just got back to Rancho Cucamonga from Ventura. We went to visit her son who was down for the weekend from college.
It's only 11:42pm. Stop talking to us and frisk her any concealed weapons. Body cavity search time.
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I hope he doesn't respond and is wildin' out with his woman until Wednesday when back to the shit show.



We actually just got back to Rancho Cucamonga from Ventura. We went to visit her son who was down for the weekend from college.
It's only 11:42pm. Stop talking to us and frisk her any concealed weapons. Body cavity search time.

I have my handcuffs ready….

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We actually just got back to Rancho Cucamonga from Ventura. We went to visit her son who was down for the weekend from college.
It's only 11:42pm. Stop talking to us and frisk her any concealed weapons. Body cavity search time.

I have my handcuffs ready….
I woulda paid good money to see you have a pair of fuzzy pink cuffs in that holster.
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Hey night owl, go to sleep.
Hahaha. Damn, I just got out on curfew.

Morning, Buttercup. It's only midnight here, I still got a little time. Holiday weekend, nothings open tomorrow. Celebrating Labor Day. The irony.
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